‘I never allege a conspiracy when simple incompetence will suffice as an explanation…’
(Ana Michaels, Liberty Headlines) South Carolina Representative Trey Gowdy implied on the “The Story” with Fox News host Martha McCallum that Clinton pal and confidant, Sydney Blumenthal, fed information to Christopher Steele for his now infamous Trump dossier.
McCallum asked Gowdy where Congress will investigate next, and he indicated they would look towards the Obama administration State Department.
McCallum mentioned a criminal referral filed by Senators Charles Grassley and Lindsey Graham.
“The foreign source gave information to an unnamed associate of Hillary and Bill Clinton who then gave the information to an unnamed official in the Obama State Department who then gave the information to Steele,” read McCallum from the criminal referral letter.
“What do you know about that?” McCallum asked Gowdy.
“Everything that there is to know about it,” replied Gowdy. He said he saw it all and was troubled by the documents and by the State Department’s involvement.
“So weeks before the 2016 election, someone in the Obama State Department was feeding information to Christopher Steele?” asked McCallum.
“When you hear who the source – one of the sources of that information is – you’re going to think, ‘Oh, my gosh, I’ve heard that name somewhere before. Where could it possibly have been?’” replied Gowdy.
McCallum pressed Gowdy on the source’s identity.
“I’m trying to think of how Secretary Clinton defined him,” Gowdy said. “I think she said he was an old friend who emailed her from time to time.”
McCallum asked if the source was Sydney Blumenthal, former aide to President Bill Clinton and a longtime confidant of Mrs. Clinton who also worked for the Clinton Foundation.
“That would be really warm,” said Gowdy. “You’re warm.”
Earlier in the interview, McCallum listed three items that were allegedly supplied to the FISA court to obtain the warrant on Carter Page – The Yahoo News article, the dossier and ‘other information’ about Carter Page.
“Can they argue that that ‘other information’ was substantial enough for the warrant?” McCallum asked.
“I would find that interesting because they didn’t make that argument to the judge,” responded Gowdy.
“If you had enough without the dossier, then why did you include the dossier? If you had enough without the dossier then why did you in your court filing lead with the dossier?” pondered Gowdy.
“Lawyers don’t start with their weakest argument,” he explained. “And you certainly don’t start with an argument that you didn’t need to make and should not have made.”
McCallum asked Gowdy if he agreed with House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte’s characterization of the situation as a “conspiracy.”
“I never allege a conspiracy when simple incompetence will suffice as an explanation. I don’t look for some nefarious motive if incompetence or a lack of protocol will explain it,” Gowdy said.
“I would not allege that the Bureau and Department of Justice had a conspiracy,” said Gowdy. “I’ve got really serious questions about the way they handled things certain ways, but I don’t start with conspiracy.”
Later in the the interview, Gowdy revealed their investigation found that “Chris Steele was relying on Russian sub-sources.”
“So, in essence, the Democrat National Committee and Hillary Clinton were spending money to acquire information from Russian sources to then be used to interfere with, or influence or impact the 2016 election,” said Gowdy. “It is an irony that you couldn’t make up if you wanted to.”
Watch the full interview: