Wasserman-Schultz IT Aide Arrested While Attempting To Flee Country

(Luke Rosiak, Daily Caller News Foundation) Florida Democratic Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s top information technology (IT) aide was arrested Monday attempting to board a flight to Pakistan after wiring $283,000 from the Congressional Federal Credit Union to that country.

Wasserman-Schultz IT Aide Arrested While Attempting To Flee Country

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz

He attempted to leave the country hours after The Daily Caller News Foundation’s Investigative Group revealed that he is the target of an FBI investigation, and the FBI apprehended him at the airport.

RELATED: FBI Seized Smashed Hard Drives from Former DNC Chair IT Aide’s Home

Credit union officials permitted the wire to go through, and his wife has already fled the country to Pakistan, after police confronted her at the airport and found $12,000 in cash hidden in her suitcase but did not stop her from boarding, court documents show.

“On January 18, 2017 at 12:09 pm, an international wire transfer request form was submitted [at the Congressional Federal Credit Union] at the Longworth House Office Building in the District of Columbia, in the amount of $283,000.00, to two individuals in Faisalabad, Pakistan,” according to an affidavit obtained by TheDCNF.

Imran Awan, a Pakistani-born IT aide, had access to all emails and files of dozens of members of Congress, as well as the password to the iPad that Wasserman Schultz used for Democratic National Committee business before she resigned as its head in July 2016.

In March, his wife Hina Alvi, who also was on the House payroll, withdrew her children from school and left the country, the affidavit says. The Capitol Police confronted her at the airport but could not stop her. “U.S. Customs and Border Protection conducted a search of Alvi’s bags immediately prior to her boarding the plane and located a total of $12,400.00 in U.S. cash inside. Alvi was permitted to board the flight to Qatar and she and her daughters have not returned to the United States,” the affidavit says. “Alvi had numerous pieces of luggage with her, including cardboard boxes… Your affiant does not believe that Alvi has any intention to return to the United States.”

Soon after Imran began working for Wasserman Schultz in 2005, four of his relatives appeared on the payroll of other Democrats at inflated salaries, but Democratic staffers said they were rarely seen at work. They collected $4 million in taxpayer salaries since 2009.

House authorities told members in February that Imran and his relatives were suspects in a criminal investigation into theft and IT abuses, and they were banned from the Capitol network.

Wasserman Schultz has refused to fire Imran, despite being a known criminal suspect in a cybersecurity probe for months, and has blocked Capitol Police from searching a laptop they confiscated because it was tied to him.

TheDCNF reported Sunday night that the FBI had joined the investigation and seized smashed hard drives from Imran’s home. The next day, the FBI apprehended him at Dulles Airport after noticing that he had purchased a ticket to Pakistan, via Qutar.

The affidavit says he was charged with bank fraud involving fraudulently taking out mortgages, which was one of several financial schemes TheDCNF has detailed. It appears to be a placeholder for future charges, spurred because of the attempt to leave the country, and does not mention his work for Congress, which is the investigation’s primary focus.

As TheDCNF has reported, the Awans own numerous rental properties that often have multiple mortgages taken out on them, and they have told renters they want payments in untraceable ways. The charging documents say Imran’s wife Hina Alvi, who also made $165,000 working for House Democrats, took out a second mortgage against a house from the Congressional Federal Credit Union by falsely claiming it was her “principal residence” and that she will “occupy” the property, and also fraudulently reported no rental income on her taxes.

A renter told the FBI “they paid approximately $2,000 per month for rent and that the rent check was written to Suriaya Begum. Based on information and belief, I know that Begum is Alvia’s mother,” an FBI agent wrote.

The agent also said Imran appears to have applied for the loan in his wife’s name.

Democratic members of Congress, including Rep. Gregory Meeks of New York, have suggested that police had framed the Pakistani-born brothers out of Islamophobia. Yet his own stepmother, a devout Muslim, filed court documents accusing him of using high-tech devices to wiretap her and extorting her (see p. 23 of court documents in that case). A dozen people who have dealt with Imran painted a picture in interviews with TheDCNF of a charming, “cunning” extrovert who bragged about his power among Democratic officials and who seemed to have an unquenchable thirst for cash.

The affidavit also paints him as an overly confident con artist, saying he listed his House phone number when initiating the wire transfer, and pretended to be a woman — his wife — on the phone when a Congressional Federal Credit Union questioned the transfer. “The person answering the call, who was a male, pretended that he was Alvi. On the call, the [bank] representative asked the man to verify the address of where the wire was being sent and the purpose of the outgoing wire,” the document says.

Imran claimed the $300,000 was for “funeral arrangements.”

“The CFCU representative then stated that ‘funeral arrangements’ may not be an acceptable reason for the wire. The male speaking to the representative then responded that he would look online for an acceptable reason for the wire. After a long pause, the male said that the reason for the wire was ‘buying property.’ The representative accepted that reason and initiated the wire transfer to Pakistan.”

Fox News was first to report the arrest. TheDCNF has done 20 stories on the brothers since February — linked below — including reporting that Imran’s wife had fled.

Bill Miller, spokesman for the US Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia, told TheDCNF that Awan “was arraigned today in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia on one count of bank fraud, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1344. He pled not guilty and was released pursuant to a high-intensity supervision program. The conditions of release are that he receive a GPS monitor, he abide by a curfew of 10 p.m. to 6 a.m., and that he not leave a 50-mile radius of his residence in Virginia. Awan was also ordered to turn over all of his passports.”

Wasserman Schultz’s spokesman, David Damron, did not immediately return a request for comment.

Republished with permission from the Daily Caller News Foundation via iCopyright license

  • Rolpho Signetti

    HA HA HA! Go get em! The rats are trying to flee the scene of the crime! This does not surprise me at all! The Trump Feds are closing in. Trump saying: put it in the past? He was just letting the Clinton Mafia Inc.® think they were getting over once more! Spring the trap! Get King Rat Hillary! That is the ultimate prize! Bravo!

    • rennyangel2

      The Dems. are looking for a new slogan–how about: We’re all jihadist Muslims now.

      • The Redhawk

        welll they can start by borrowing the BLACK FLAG from ” Black LIES Matter” anarchists

      • Amos10

        Chuckie Schumer may object. He wants to raise everyone’s salary, including his own, of course.

        • The Redhawk

          Chuck is a CHEAP ‘HORE! Soros is his PI MP

    • Amos10

      The Queen Hornet is in her hive surrounded by all her worker hornets like Brennen, Clapper, Comey, Mueller, Rosenstein, McCabe, Bezos, Sulzberger, Slim, . . .

      • J G Frakes

        Don’t forget George “seigheil” Soros, the Podestas, the Rockefellers, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinnstein, NBC,CBS,ABC, HBO, and even many Republican lifetime sitting Senators.

        • Dee

          Maxipad waters too.

    • Sylvia Avila

      Right you are, time to get these criminals in jail! Don’t care if they are famous, elite rich! Jail them all, Traitors to our country and President!!!!

  • Ruth Naylor

    This the beginning of the end The start of the Russian scandal

  • ECwashr

    President Trump should hire Guiliana to investigate ALL of these criminal demoRATS, Obama/Hillary/Schultz, etc. Start the process of truly Draining The Swamp!!

    • Gerry Costa

      ECwasher — that is an excellent idea. I believe he would be a great person to lead an investigation and he may actually get people prosecuted instead of all this lip service we keep getting from all our so-called leaders.

    • kodster

      He’s at the top of the short list, but he’s already come out and said he doesn’t want the job. BTW, it’s Guiliani, not Guiliana.

      • ECwashr

        That is too bad. No matter how he spells his name he would get the job done and unlike comey/mueller, he can’t be bought!!

        • kodster

          I agree. I think a better contention, however, would be Trey Gowdy. But no one wants the job that is qualified! Not even Ted Cruz, who is also on the short list being considered.

      • MisterEd13

        You saved me the trouble of correcting the spelling of Rudy’s name. Thanks!!!!

        • chris VN

          Is that the main reason why you follow these posts??? You need to get a life, Mr ED, ( the writing horse ).

        • jaybird

          Get a life before you get blocked by people posting.

      • IrreverentOne

        The spelling police are out in force once again. kodster and MisterEd13 have nothing better to do in their miserable existence than find fault with other people.

        • kodster

          And you, sir, are an idiot. If you noticed, my comment was NOT focused on the misspelling, but started out stating that Mr. Guiliani had already stated he was not interested in the position as US Attorney General, both when he was originally up for it, before January 20th, when the positions were being set up for confirmation hearings, as well as just in the last few days, when it was revealed that there was a possibility that Jeff Sessions may be replaced in the very near future. The correction in the spelling of his name was a side-note… not the original intent of the comment. So, you are demonstrating that it is YOU who are the ‘spelling police’ for your comment.

          • jaybird

            It does not matter when you said it , the point is that you said it. I have noticed when some people get older they have a few spelling mistakes. I guess you are perfect and when you get older you will still think you are perfect.

          • kodster

            ROFL! Well, just for your information, jaybird, I’ll be 60 years old, in just three weeks. However, I also suffer from those ‘senior moments’ at times. It’s just that I grew up in an era where proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation was something that was drilled into you, in order to pass from one grade to another, or you’d be held back. I didn’t post my comment with the sole intent of correcting ‘ECwashr’ in his spelling.

    • Louie Rey

      I agree but even though I’d love for him to head the criminal investigation I don’t think it’s going to happen. Giuliani’s one of a couple of people that would be on the short list to replace Jeff Sessions, if it ever gets that far, but he’s already said he’d pass on it because his business is too time consuming. Being a New Yorker and knowing how Giuliani completely turned NYC around I know that he’d be the very best person for the job. Keep in mind, when he was elected mayor NYC was considered “ungovernable” because of the crime. There were 2200 plus murders in NYC in the last year of David “Pathetic” Dinkins’ term. Eight years later at the end of Giuliani’s second term in his last year there were less than 500 and the totals have continued to go down. The guy was the best by far.

      • ECwashr

        I was reading yesterday that Giuliani had brought the subway back to life. It was in a dilapidated state. Now, because of the last two liberal fool mayors, it has fallen into a pathetic state again. Liberals couldn’t run a hot dog stand..

        • Louie Rey

          The only thing that liberals are good at running is their mouths. Oh yeah, and running this country into the ground.

    • Amos10

      He’s taken money from foreign entities as a consultant. He is damaged goods.

  • RickyB

    This guy will commit “suicide” within the next few months, or maybe sooner. If he knows anything criminal about the Clinton’s or the DNC hacking posing as “Russians” his days are numbered.

    • Louie Rey

      With a couple of bullets to the back of his head. Don’t you just hate when that happens?

      • Paul Morris

        Worst case of suicide I ever saw.

        • Louie Rey

          Right alongside Vince Foster. Oh yeah, and that very coincidental “botched robbery resulting in death” of Seth Rich. You know what they say, timing is everything.

          • Amos10

            These poor, naive people who learn the inner secrets of the Poppa Doc Obama-ites have signed their own death warrants.

          • Louie Rey

            Look, if this guy wasn’t going to make it out of America getting caught by the FBI may very well be the best thing to happen to him. It could end up being his salvation. I’d like to think he won’t be able to commit “suicide” while in the government’s custody. At least it hasn’t happened yet. He better hope that the correction officer assigned to his cell isn’t a Hussein holdover.

          • Amos10

            Nice reply. He has already been released by an Obama appointed judge. He will fly the coop soon enough when safe houses are arranged for him as well as another fake passport to get him out of the country.

          • Louie Rey

            If this guy somehow escapes any consequences then you know we’re all at the precipice of the End Of Days.

          • jaybird

            Jesus Louie, are you that blind to think that anyone in our investigative depts. don’t have their hands dirty? How do we know what they have or have not done? Look at Lynch, Holder!

          • Louie Rey

            Someone might call it naive. I don’t think I am. I’m just hoping (maybe beyond hope) that justice will actually rear its head here and come to the proper conclusion. We can only hope.

          • Nancy Anderson

            How true.

      • ADRIAN WRIGHT

        The F. B. I. will still call it suicide though there are two bullets in the back of his head. Wonder whose side they are on?

        • Louie Rey

          Well, considering their recent leadership I think you can guess yourself.

        • Amos10

          They have been corrupted by Obama and his Democrat Party. Until this organization has been sent to the cleaners, they should not be trusted.

        • birdman

          it will not be that easy now that there are new people in charge

      • chief1937

        Real rare way of committing suicide don’t you think?

        • Louie Rey

          Not in the Clinton Universe. In fact, it’s pandemic in their sphere.

    • Cherie Lynn Davis

      Yes, his head could be severed or he could have a bullet in his back. At any rate, it will still be called a suicide. He will soon find out when you play with fire you will eventually get burned!!

      • Marie Saqueton

        The unresolved deaths connected to the Clintons are still in limbo and no one seems to be interested in investigating them, why is that?

        • jaybird

          They have been closed after having been ruled suicides.

        • Cherie Lynn Davis

          The Clintons’ left a trail of questionable deaths in Arkansas before they ever left for Washington. Most of the people who could have prosecuted or exposed them were bought off and if they couldn’t be bought, they either ended up committing suicide (?) or dead in one way or another or their careers were ruined because the Press was bought and paid for too. The extent of the Clintons’ nefarious activity is mind boggling! They brought many of their cronies with them from Arkansas and I believe the word went out quickly not to mess with them if you wanted to live without fear of reprisal from them. I have heard many people refer to them and their cronies as the Clinton Mafia.

    • MisterEd13

      Good point, but there is no apostrophe in “Clintons” as is is never correct to use an apostrophe to pluralize.

      • Eileen Ross

        You’re not serious! Really, who cares? Take a look at YOUR sentence. “as is is never correct”. Take the plank out of your own eye before you try to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

        • MisterEd13

          KMA!!!!! Mine was a typo, which will be corrected. His was not. Plank, my A$$!!!!!!! Mine was the speck, his is the plank, and you’re a fool!!!!!

          • Eileen Ross

            You poor, uneducated horse.

          • Phoebe Isley

            Hey kids cut it out. I believe we are all on the same side. We are not perfect fathom that! I kind of like the fact that we are just human. God Bless Eileen Ross and MisterEd13 and GOD BLESS AMERICA AND PRESIDENT TRUMP! Go get those idiots one step at a time. Drain that swamp and I am anxiously waiting for you know who’s to go down.

          • Eileen Ross

            Wellll, ok. Seriously, you are right. God bless you too!

          • Liberty

            So true, for at least the first and famous Mr. Ed could speak, of course, of course!

          • Eileen Ross

            Help Liberty! I am trying to behave myself.

          • Liberty

            Why? We western women can take a little misbehavior when it comes to calling a spade a spade. Go for it, Girl!

          • Eileen Ross

            Now, now, don’t encourage me Liberty. Phoebe already kicked my conscience into gear. I’ll just let this one rest for now. (until someone decides to call me names again).

          • MisterEd13

            Ha! Caught you looking in the mirror!!! I have a Master’s Degree, BTW.

          • Eileen Ross

            Big deal. Did your thesis resemble Michael Obama’s, concerning hatred?

      • Phoebe Isley

        Thanks for that MisterEd13. Just edited my comment above due to using the apostrophe.

      • IrreverentOne

        My point would be that the grammatical error did not alter the message. Your nitpicking is ridiculous and childish.

      • Liberty

        When used with an apostrophe, the word “CLINTON’s” is an acronym. Each letter stands for a word. For example, in the sentence “CLINTON’s are known to lie, cheat, steal, and defame to get what they want,” the C stands for Criminal, the L for Liar, the I for Idiot, the N for Nasty, the T for Terrible, the O for Obamalike, and the N for Naysayer. It is well known, however, that more apt definitions exist but are not usually seen in written form due to their tendency to shock the more refined ear.

        • Nancy Anderson

          That is awesome. Thanks for an entertaining reply.

      • Jose Cisneros

        Another grammar Nazi

    • Phoebe Isley

      I was thinking that very same thing. Those many many suicides which occur when you have anything on the Clintons.

    • Nancy Anderson

      Suicide by 3 bullets to the brain. Tough guy.

  • Robert Kuhlmann

    How the “F” can some foreigner who is related to someone working at the DNC, get paid $165,000 a year??? that is absolutely asinine. With U. S. citizens out of work, how can someone be so ignorant to hire this woman? What was her specialty? Being a relative? This is how our government and government-related businesses work. And people are criticizing Trump for keeping people out of America. They find a way around the correct way. How many people reading this would like to make $ 165,000 a year? 99.5%. The other .5% at making more or they would apply also. Is there something wrong with someone named Smith or Jones getting these jobs?.

    • jaybird

      Why did they hire either of them??? I would think a background check would have exposed something. How can Schultz block the Cap. Police from searching the lap top if it is evidence??

      • Robert Kuhlmann

        Jeff. Right on. I wonder what her husband made? Must have been considerable more. Here is what I just looked up online. MOST FREQUENT GROSS US$ 43,618. Which suggests she made almost 400% more. Disgusting.

        • jaybird

          Who is Jeff?

      • kodster

        She’s on the Capitol Police’s oversight committee… controls their funding, since the agency is a District of Columbia agency, used exclusively for Congress and their offices, bureaucracies. Any agency within the District is financed by Congress. She was blackmailing them into compliance. So, obstruction of justice.

        • jaybird

          Trey Gowdy needs to over-ride her on misconduct in protecting the IT dude.

    • kodster

      If you had read the article, it was actually her husband, Imran Awan, who had ‘hired’ her. She wasn’t an employee, in actuality… just on the Congressional payroll. He was milking the system for all the cash he could finagle.

      • Mister Vice

        Shows how much attention Wasserman-Schultz is paying to her so-called staff. Or maybe she just looks the other way with the expectation her staff will do the same for her…?

    • Francisco Machado

      The “specialty” is knowing things and not going public with them. The job’s title is extortion. It may be a short term profitable enterprise to take out a life insurance policy on Awan.

    • rev_dave

      Apparently, there is!

    • Holy Joe

      I expect that she made a very good curry lunch ? Reason enough to get hired at about three times the going rate.

  • jaybird

    I hope they can get information off those smashed hard drives, must be pretty bad and he has a lot of information on the Demorats otherwise Schultz would have fired him.

    • nashcountryboy

      He will turn up dead…just like others around Hillary and Bill Clinton!

      • chief1937

        Probably an accident or suicide by being stabbed in the back.

  • Jack

    W-S ought to be in PRISON!

    • jaybird

      It should have happened a long time ago!

      • The Redhawk

        Not with Holder or Loretta lynch taking orders from the Pu$$Y potus aka Barack the Tranny

        • jaybird

          You are right they are all in every crime together!

          • The Redhawk

            iF the GOP were not so GONADS FREE they would Demand that a prosecutor like a Rudy Giuliani would be appointed to Investigate the whole Obama administrations YEARS of INFAMY….But they . most of them. seem to have “parked” their balls in Pickle jars….

          • Amos10

            The RINOS are in cahoots with Obama and the Democrats. They don’t want to wind up being charged with some crime of collusion.

          • The Redhawk

            IF nothing else , those who still cannot decide on VOTING to Eliminate Odumbocare as Vacillating RINOS , 2018 will ELIMINATE most of them…..NOW if the DUMBOCRATS will also GET RID of the TRAITORS to AMERICA who Want to continue to LIE about Obama and his Legacy of Failures would GET RID OF THESE TURDS!!!

          • KCK

            Trey Gowdy would be a good choice, too! Though many GOP members are in bed with the DNC as they are just two wings of the same bird that is roosting on the heads of every American.

          • The Redhawk

            Something is Brewing in the Cesspool….Jim Jordan just called for a Specila investigator to look into the DNC,,, Dernaged Debbie W-S…Comey… Lynch… Clinton …Records of INFAMY during the O’vomit years

        • Amos10

          How about Valarie Jarrett? By the way, what ever happened to her? She is sure keeping a low profile. Why hasn’t she been dragged before some investigating committee? I’ll lay odds that Lurch Mueller never calls on her to testify.

          • jaybird

            She is living with Obama in headquarters (his home)!

          • Amos10

            So, she moved in with Obama and his wife? Different strokes for different folks.

          • The Redhawk

            and building another “mansion” in IRAN????

          • Nancy Anderson

            Or she just disappears, or ends up in a fatal car or plane crash.

    • kodster

      She will be. They’re closing the noose around her neck, now. She should be charged, at least, with obstruction of justice.

      • Fortuneless

        She will be swinging in the breeze alongside Obama and Hillary.

        • Amos10

          Maybe just working in the prison laundry. Of course, she might object that such a chore is bad for her fingernails and hair. Of, well.

          • Lord Layton

            They have a prison laundry in Gitmo?

          • jaybird

            I think they send it out!

      • Jose Cisneros

        How many other members of congress have given access to non americans of their email accounts or other confidential information

        • kodster

          Direct quote from the article:

          “Imran Awan, a Pakistani-born IT aide, had access to ALL EMAILS AND FILES OF DOZENS OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, as well as the password to the iPad that Wasserman Schultz used for Democratic National Committee business before she resigned as its head in July 2016.”

          • jaybird

            Jose said how many “other” members of Congress have given access to their computers – Republican’s???

          • kodster

            That was neither defined by Jose, himself, in his question, nor was it defined, as an answer in the article. The question was posed to me, not you. So, in other words, bugger off, grammar police! Hypocrite. You’re looking to bring on a fight, and should just stop.

          • Marie Saqueton

            Everyone at the DNC who are responsible for hiring this foreign IT aides should be prosecuted. They compromised our National security, therefore they have to be prosecuted, and jailed.

          • Dee

            That’s the Hitlery way ! Her doll Aberdine probably has a bunch of her looser family and friends pulling similar crap .

          • Jim Hall

            Might happen with Obama out of office. Depends on whether anyone’s eyes are ever opened to what’s been going on in Washington during both Obama & Hiilary’s reigns

        • Nancy Anderson

          Very good point. Probably more than anyone will ever know.

    • Ron Alford

      Absolutely correct, and all of the ultra liberals.

    • Eileen Ross

      She is dirtier than the Hudson River.

      • The Redhawk

        but not as dirty as Maxi Waters who belongs LOCKED UP for life as the Biggest Crook in the Congress

        • Amos10

          She needs to be in the rubber room at a funny farm. She is definitely not playing with a full deck.

          • Nancy Anderson

            And PeUlosi belongs in the room right next to hers.

        • Lord Layton

          Maxine WaterBuffalo? She even sounds like one getting bitten by a croc.

        • Eileen Ross

          Right. She has people wondering how she accumulated so much wealth. She lives in the most exclusive neighborhood in CA. in a multi million dollar mansion. And rotten to the core.

    • The Redhawk

      Right Next door to Shillry.. S Rice.. Loretta lynch… Holder and Obama!!!!

    • Nancy Anderson

      They better keep a close watch on her slimy slippery self. I would not be surprised if SHE left the country to some other country that she could not be taken from. She KNEW all along what kind of person this was that she had working for her, and she either didn’t care or was using him and his minions to do her dirty work. She has been crooked from day one, but it seems as though she had some kind of veil over her that people couldn’t see the real person underneath.

  • GymS

    DemocRAT terrorist muzzies? No? Say it isn’t so. Gee, do ‘ya think that was tax payers money or demorrhoid campaign funds? Oh, and I’m very surprised Lil’ debbie is involved!

  • Donovan Blaylock

    Why is Debbie not locked up? Tax evasion comes to mind. Taxpayer dollars in the millions going to foreign nationals>

    • chief1937

      Privileged characters is the reason mixed with crooked politics. Some poor working slob forgets to claim $5 in income and our IRS will spend millions to prosecute him makes lots of sense doesn’t it?

  • RLS

    So how many more muslim leftists have been covering for the DNC and the Clintons?

    • The Old Ranger

      Obummer had a whole staff of muslims working for him while he was in office, not counting the ones who were working behind the scenes.

      • jaybird

        Did you see the pic of his “prayer room with rug” in the WH after they moved out?

        • The Old Ranger

          As much as I disliked Obummer I have to state that Snopes found those photographs were “faked” SNOPES The picture of the “wada” sink actually shows a high-end department store bathroom. The photograph showing a “Muslim prayer” was not taken in Malia Obama’s bedroom; it’s a stock photograph used to sell a wall sticker that is available from various online merchants, including Amazon. The last photograph, purportedly showing a secret prayer room in the White House, was actually taken in Murray Dodge Hall at Princeton University.
          None of these photographs were “leaked,” nor were any of them even taken in the White House. TheLastLineOfDefense.org, from which this article originated, is a well-known purveyor of fake news that has a long history of spreading misinformation. The web site carries a disclaimer: http://www.snopes.com/obama-white-house-muslim/

          • jaybird

            Thanks for your info. I don’t guess he would be that stupid to leave evidence there for all to see!

    • bendecido

      RLS what concerns me is: Are they letting ISIS know what is going on in America concerning the plans against them by Trump? How can any respectable government employee allow islamists to work at the Govenment where all that confidential information is available? All of the congressional personnel wo allowed that should be fired, their pensions cancelled and then put them in prison. .

      • rev_dave

        I suspect lots of blackmail, for one thing. Congress critters tend to be technically stupid, so likely have all their dirty laundry in their gov’t email.

        I also suspect that Awan & company were using the members’ access to other government systems to download documents and perhaps to drop various kinds of hackware on any agency system they could get at. So they may by now have hacked every system the US government has.

        • Wumingren

          Note that besides smashed hard drives, the FBI also found large quantities of copy toner.

          • rev_dave

            That’s interesting. Very much so.

            But now I wonder, my printer/copier is pretty ‘smart’ for a dumb machine, but it communicates with HP apparently. So I wonder if the copiers were sending surreptitious copies to the manufacturer, or if the bad boys were scanning documents and sending them out to somewhere. Those outgoing should be stored in the comm network somewhere if they were. Not sure about copies, or how many the printers have in their history files – or even if they do. I suppose one could find out if we knew whose copiers they were using.

  • mike

    PUT THE THUMB SCREWS ON HER,HILLARY IS NEXT……………..

  • Ron Alford

    Opposing everything Trump says and does is going to come back to bite them where it hurts. That is exactly why you keep them from coming into your country until they are vetted from A to Z.

  • A_Nobody

    BUT Sessions is dragging his feet on everything. It’s time to put a man in place and now Tillerson is whining about Trump’s comments on Sessions. Man up or pack your bags too.

    • nashcountryboy

      What good is Sessions to Trump after he recused himself! He MUST resign or be fired since he fell into the trap set for him.

      • jaybird

        Could it be that “he” thought that they might manufacture something on him and if he supported/defended the President that it would not look good”. I would like to know “why” .

  • ImOffendedTreatMeSpecial

    Nothing like letting muslims into the congressional IT network. But I guess it is no worse than obama putting a muslim in charge of homeland, another in charge of the CIA and having another as his closest advisor.

  • The Old Ranger

    No surprise here, as the Dems and liberals have been bleeding the middle class for years. Notice how little money Obama had before he became Prez, now check out how much money he has now, the several homes he has purchased (very expensive ones), but has been doing it rather quietly. He got rich off the American public, and he’s not done yet. He is still trying to sell the US down the tubes to foreign countries, along with other libtards who are looking for ways to gain more money off the US while trying to drive this country into bankruptcy. It still amazes me how so many people have been fooled for so long by this extremely corrupt group.

    • Warren Blum

      It’s sad that demorats in this country refuse to see this and continue to vote for these traitors.

      • jaybird

        Have you noticed that the trolls when posting on any site against a Conservative, does not criticize the Demorat Party. We Republicans will criticize all parties, even our own. They have not commented to me when I have pointed that out.

        • Warren Blum

          You are correct jay. I call my republican politicians and email them calling them out. These demorats are hard party liners and I really feel we are heading towards a good street fight with them eventually. I hate them

          • jaybird

            Sometimes I think the sooner the better on the street fight! Let’s get it over with!

      • Marie Saqueton

        Only the low IQ people.

  • Leslie Bryant

    This case epitomizes the widespread corruption of the DNC and the arrogance of its most corrupt former head, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz! Wasserman-Schultz should be in an orange jump suit serving time for having violated national security!! Her threats to the Congressional police only reinforce how corrupt she is and the fact she thinks she can get away with it!

    • nashcountryboy

      So should Hillary, John Podesta, Uma Abedin, and Obama!

    • rev_dave

      Of course she thinks that. She’s had her head up Killary’s ‘no sunshine zone’ for years, and one of the benefits of being a Clinton puppet used to be immunity from your activities being noticed.

    • Marie Saqueton

      Does the last name Schultz tells you something in Hogan’s Heroes?

      • Mister Vice

        yeah…”I see nothing!!!”

        In her case it stands for “I know nothing!”

  • Butch Lane

    He want’s to go west to Pakistan. Release him. Release him 11 miles west of the United States coastline, in international waters. As Arnold once said in a movie,” I LET HIM GO”

  • RealAmerican407

    The DNC openly admits rigging the election against Bernie. Seth Rich’s murder couldn’t be any more suspicious. The chairman has to resign and now this. So much dirt and corruption yet completely ignored by the praetorian guard media.

    • Warren Blum

      Obamas OFA has 30k members. Mostly media types. They own the airwaves.

      • jaybird

        What is ‘OFA”?

        • Warren Blum

          Obama stayed in DC not because his scumbag primates are going to college but to run the organization for action. It’s comprised of leftists, global and epa creeps and left wing media. Who knows how it’s funded. Clinton, soros? They are the ones resisting, spreading lies.

          • Marie Saqueton

            They should really be charged with SEDITION.

    • Marie Saqueton

      The current reporting of the mainstream media MUST be monitored closely by the FCC to make sure that they are not biased, because that is where the propaganda of our enemies is sold to the masses. It is toxic to our innocent children and dangerous for our country, because they are brainwashing the low IQ people who are devoid of research and will then VOTE for their PUPPETS. Pres. Trump should get the FCC on this promptly, before the brains of the mediocre minds are raped.

  • disqus_tKlEuAw2uq

    AND NOTHING WILL BE DONE TO THEM, THAT IS THE SAD PART

    • Marie Saqueton

      HOPEFULLY THIS TIME SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHILE PRES. TRUMP IS IN OFFICE, THAT IS IF DOJ/ATTY GENERAL SESSIONS DOES HIS JOB WELL.

  • richard black

    my mother was watching NBC this am….not even a footnote still

    • Louie Rey

      Tell her not to hold her breath.

      • fedupwithpoliticians2

        If they did report it, they would have applied so much leftist spin on the story, it would be 180 degrees from the actual truth. The media is useless except to the far left.

        • Louie Rey

          Of course the media is only useful to the Left, and it doesn’t have to be the far Left either. They’re the purveyors of “fake news” that supports the Left and demonizes anything Trump so it’ll be gobbled up them. It’s pathetic and so anti-American it’s not even funny. That sound you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.

          • Marie Saqueton

            As I’ve said, they are controlled by the money of the eleven COMMUNIST ORGANIZATIONS HERE IN USA.

        • Marie Saqueton

          And they will add negative innuendos against Pres. Trump which is sickening to even watch. Just turn them off.

  • nashcountryboy

    Wow….I found this sentence in the article to be sobering! “Imran Awan, a Pakistani-born IT aide, had access to all emails and files of dozens of members of Congress, as well as the password to the iPad that Wasserman Schultz used for Democratic National Committee business before she resigned as its head in July 2016.” Hillary Clinton and all her co-horts enriched themselves and allowed foreign nationals access to members’ of Congress accounts risking national security. They should ALL get jail terms. (Clinton, Podesta, Abedin, Schultz and other perpetrators!)

    • Louie Rey

      In due time. Don’t you know that the media will get around to considering your suggestions when they’re finished with the Trump-Russia collusion angle. That should be around the time that he’s finishing up his second term in office. And then!

  • Louie Rey

    Wait, wait, wait! That can’t be. Only the Republicans are the underhanded ones, right? Must be some kind of mistake. That’s probably the reason why we’re learning about this on Liberty Headlines instead of on the mainstream media outlets. Just curious, what do you think the password is that the DNC used for this hard drive, CORRUPT? And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming, about that Russian collusion, “Mr. Trump, have you ever used Russian dressing on your salad? Aha! We all knew it! Impeach!” There aren’t words to describe the utter sliminess of the Left not to mention their handmaidens in the media.

    • Warren Blum

      It’s sickening louie. I still blame obamas OFA. At no time in our history have we ever seen a group go after a president like these demorats.

      • Louie Rey

        I’ve said it before and I know I’ll have to say it again, the level of attacks and vitriol directed at President (oh how I love writing that!) Trump is completely unprecedented in the history of American politics.

        • jaybird

          Pat Buchanan (Nixon Adm.) said that the “Deep State” is out for blood that he has seen it before. If they cannot find anything on Trump that they will manufacture it. He was on Fox and looked really worried when he said this more than once!

          • Louie Rey

            That seems pretty obvious considering that now Mueller and his investigative team, which is completely stocked with Hillary campaign supporters, want to now look into any and all of his business dealings with Russia going back ten years. Are you #&%$*$ kidding me? WTF does him selling a multi-million dollar apartment to a Russian oligarch a decade ago have to do with any inference of colluding with Russia NOW! And what does it have anything to do with what he was commissioned to look into? Absolutely nothing but as you say they seem determined to come up with something. It’s a palace coup that’s what it is and it’s the most vile anti-American exercise that’s ever been undertaken.

          • jaybird

            The do not realize how mad they will make the American people if they succeed in taking Trump down. Maybe we need to post it to the trolls on some of these sites. They might even be part of the “deep state”, just to let them know what we think.

            You never see the trolls saying anything against their party but you will see us discussing how bad the Repub’s are and the Demorats!

          • Louie Rey

            Can you say revolution boys and girls? And I don’t mean The Beatles’ song.

          • Marie Saqueton

            I AM SURE THERE WILL BE A “CIVIL UNREST” which will give our President the right to declare MARTIAL LAW, protected by our CONSTITUTION,HA,HA,HA,LOL./ The military, the police and state troopers will of course act for the president,,,,losers beware.

          • Marie Saqueton

            They are crazy and corrupt, wasting our tax dollars on concocted allegations OF collusion when COLLUSION is not even a crime if there was ever one. The real crimes the DEMONCRATS IGNORE ARE MANY AND ALL FROM DEMOCRATS…so please direct investigations which is costing us millions, to the REAL CRIMINALS: HILLARY, BILL,OBAMA, LORETTA LYNCH, COMEY, MUELLER, PELOSI, WATERS, W, SHULTZ, HUMA, PODESTA,ETC,ETC.

          • Louie Rey

            The DOUBLE STANDARD is beyond the pale. The mere thought of President Trump considering to appoint another special counsel to investigate Hillary and the rest of her corrupt minions that had anything to do with her campaign would have heads explode on the Left (not such a bad idea). Meanwhile, it IS her that has had for a while now an underhanded and subversive connection with Russia. Uranium One, anyone? Suddenly Russia’s “donating” millions upon millions to the Clinton Foundation and Bill’s speaking fees there double to half a mil per. And which president was the one that was caught on a hot mic telling the then Russian president, “I’ll be more flexible after the election”? It wasn’t Trump yet HE is the one that’s being targeted. Let’s face it, considering a look into his Russian connections has been going on for just about a year now if there was any wrongdoing it would have been found out by now. However, there’s no there there. Pathetic.

          • Marie Saqueton

            They already did with their concocted allegations which blew up on their faces. This Russia lies has already been DEBUNKED by Obama’s Intelligence Director James Clapper, as no evidence, and so vwtih Comey who testified in Congress that there is no evidence on a Russian collusion with Trump, when Trey Gowdy questioned him many times about it.. But,CNN boss already told his reporters to bring it back on the news for ratings. They were caught on video by: project veritas. com

        • Marie Saqueton

          Because he is outside of the CORRUPT BELTWAY and they hate him. He is going to close the spigot of their cash machine and make them earn their keep for a change. Corporate people demands productive performance or they are fired.

          • Louie Rey

            Amen!

    • nocbsfan

      That’s funny, keep it up.

      • Louie Rey

        I wish I had a dollar for each time my wife said the exact same thing you just said whenever she sees me naked.

        • nocbsfan

          Well take from an old timer, I don’t think we meant the same thing

          • Louie Rey

            I sure hope not!

          • nocbsfan

            Certainly glad we agree !!!!!! 🙂

  • davegrille

    It is disappointing that Trump hasn’t taken more advantage of the Democrats’ corruption.

    • Marie Saqueton

      It is not up to the President because of the separation of powers. The Dept. Of Justice have all that responsibility, so our Atty. General- Sessions has to ratchet up his appointment of Judicial panel so they can indict.

  • Timothy Draheim

    Wasserman and her little muslim IT guy are only 2 of the Dirty Democrats that have been caught. There are very many more and they have brought the terrorists with them. They all have muslim aides and advisors. Whose side are they on anyway ????

    • Warren Blum

      Good point. A lot of these leftards in power all seem to have muzzie aids and yet the demorats keep voting for them. This country is finished as we knew it. They have an ultimate agenda. Voting in trump put it on hold.

  • Gerald Mitchell

    Why would they release him when they caught him red handed and his wife who alreadt left the country with all of our money. Our law system is really screwed up and this judge must be a liberal.

    • Holy Joe

      You have got that right !

    • Marie Saqueton

      They have to find out who cleared her with Customs with all that cash…I am sure someone in a powerful position helped her who is also a DEMONCRAT, I bet.

  • Warren Blum

    Good possibility these scumbags are where the leaks came from and the Russian nonsense. Guess they had a lot to hide. Wasserman is another traitorous jew like chuck schumer. Neither of them support Israel and wouldn’t last a day over there surrounded by real Jews with balls.

    • Marie Saqueton

      WikiLeaks already said that the leaks came from their own people, Seth Rcih who was ready to go to the FBI but was murdered the day before he was scheduled to go..

  • Sueja

    Finally! I would be frustrated,too if nothing was being done to go after the dems because there were two horses in that race .(if you truly are investigating the 2016 election .)

  • Laxmom2

    Where is the media attention to this??? Haven’t heard even a mention on the news!!!!!

    • Marie Saqueton

      The corrupt MSM is controlled by our enemies already so we will never hear anything about this. Get you news on the web, TV news is garbage, except for local accidents.

  • Dead Toad

    Another immigrant committing crimes what a surprise. He works with immigrations biggest supporter the DNC and he’s traveling to one of President Trumps travel ban countries.

    • Wumingren

      Wasn’t vetted at all.

      W-S has been in panic mode ever since she stepped down from her DNC duties. The FBI had better be investigating her finances, because she more than likely received kickbacks from the Pakistanis. They reportely earned millions of dollars from their exorbitant DNC salaries while rarely being seen working. They collected more cash via fraudulent means. And I have no doubt that they were selling classified information to Pakistani Intelligence agents the whole time.

      With all these millions as a backdrop it is difficult to believe they were only able to come away with $300,000. The bulk likely found its way into W-S’s hands or even The Clinton Foundation.

      With E-S so desperate to shield the Pakistanis, the most logical conclusion to draw is that she was fully aware of their money laundering schemes and trade in secrets. She knows the Pakistanis could turn on her to protect themselves. And it is not too much of a stretch to consider Hillary’s fingerprints all over this. If so, W-S and the Pakistanis had better keep looking over their shoulders, lest they soon find themselves victims of “suicide.”

      • Marie Saqueton

        You are correct, we will never know if this guy is their agent selling our security info. for billions to our enemies. All he had to do was forward it. They really need to hold this guy without bail and record their questioning in case something happens to him.

    • Marie Saqueton

      The DNC I think hires foreigners and got them diplomatic visas & immunity so they can use them in their sinister operations and if they are caught, their diplomatic immunity will save them from prosecution….I hope they did not do that with this guy.

  • Fortuneless

    It off the head of the snake…Obama, Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Hillary.

  • RockinOn

    Sessions, make good on your promises and “Sic Em”, the Deep State has got to go, corruption in DC is rampant, prove your worth and clean it up, all of it, CIA, FBI, NSA, Congress, All of it ! It is Time someone cleaned up the DC Cartels, all of it, each and every one !

    • Marie Saqueton

      AND HIRE HIGH CALIBER CRIMINAL LAWYERS TO HELP YOU, SO THEY CAN’T GET AWAY. THIS IS ONE GOOD WAY TO SPEND OUR TAX DOLLARS TO CLEAN THE SWAMP IN DC AND RESTORE OUR GOVERNMENT FOR THE PEOPLE, AND NOT FOR CROOKED POLITICIANS…. GO GET THEM SESSIONS.

  • Raymond Marine

    Debbie Wasserman Should Be Kicked Out of Congress For Obstruction of Justice.

    • Marie Saqueton

      AND FOR DELIBERATELY CHEATING BERNIE SANDERS BY RIGGING THE PRIMARY ELECTION.

  • Crazy Barry

    Sadly, nothing will come of this. These are democrats – professional criminals. President Trump hasn’t drained nearly enough swamp yet to get a real investigation (let alone a conviction) of any democrat in the federal government. Remember, any democrat that even thinks about (maybe) turning state’s evidence, ends up dead (suicide, robbery, plane crash, unsolved murder).

    • Marie Saqueton

      Because they are now the party openly ENDORSED BY THE ELEVEN COMMUNIST ORGANIZATIONS OF AMERICA AS THEIR OWN PARTY….GOOGLE AND READ THEIR AGENDA SO SIMILAR.

  • downs1

    “You reap what you sow!” The DNC is a truly godless, intellectually dishonest, ultra-liberal, anti-American group of fools! May the God who by their actions they deny bring them down!

  • kabulgeorge

    Speaks volumes for all the nonsense going on at the DNC. These idiots had access to all the dirt, lied and cheated us taxpayers and DWS looks the other way. She sucks, more than I can imagine!

  • Dan Meyer

    Hill and Bill should be charged with violation of 18 USC 794(a) of our Espionage Act for which there are NO STATUTES OF LIMITTIONS. Read the statute for yourself. it up. Very serous treason.

    • Marie Saqueton

      I concur…they need to be charged NOW.

  • gideonrockwell

    There needs to be a complete D.O.J. investigation of the Criminal Organization known as the Democrat National Committee under RICO laws. The entire Democrat Party appears to be involved in such crimes as Ponzi Schemes under the color of legislation, as well as inciting voter fraud and other violations of election laws.

    • Marie Saqueton

      Atty. General Sessions, can’t you hear the cries of the citizenry?

  • davesop

    Trump is being hosed for non-existent collusion while the Dems, who have committed REAL crimes are scurrying around like rats,, About time we see them as they are.

    • The Redhawk

      and here is where Session got to STEP UP and Get it GOING!

  • The Redhawk

    IF we are EVER going to Drain the CESSPOOL , It is HIGH time to LOCK some of these Incompetent “legislators” UP and let the Message go out LOUD and CLEAR that WE HAVE HAD it with Incompetent professional Do Nothing Poliitical “HORES on tax payers PAYROLL!!!!

    • jaybird

      These Congressional investigations go on way too long.

    • Marie Saqueton

      Write to Atty. General Sessions is the first step, to let him know how disgusted we are for his very slow judicial investigations. We need indictments now….

      • The Redhawk

        Session IS doing his job….. why not call Every (D) party Senator to get them ‘hores to do THEIR jobs by Stopping their efforts to STOP a Thorough Clinton / Russia/ Rice/Brenan/ Powers INVESTIGATION ??? and start governing instead of fiollowing the Dictums from SOROS to Stop the REPUBLIC????

  • Aardvark

    “Awan was also ordered to turn over all of his passports.” Wonder how many he has? This is just one small example of the corruption and anti-American sentiment among the democrat politicians and the DNC. Tax payer money once again going to Muslim radicals and countries (remember the 400 million Obama gave to Iran that was actually well over 1 billion and illegally laundered to do it?).

    • The Redhawk

      May be under the Clinton?Karry regime at State… Who knows how many Passports were Illegally distribuited!

  • Meg

    This is what you get with diversity hiring. Why do we need foreigners in our govt. to begin with?

    • Marie Saqueton

      We don’t need them but the Obama administration preferred them than our citizens. He even had MUSLIM CZARS in the White House to advice him and for what? Your guess is as good as mine….lol.

  • IrreverentOne

    The question that keeps popping up is…who was the idiot at the credit union that allowed the money to be transferred to Pakistan?

  • Kim Chul Soo

    You’re off to a belated but warm start. I can’t believe you did not stop his wife (caught with a suitcase full of cash) and let her flee to Pakistan. These are filthy infiltrators of our government and need some severe punishment.

  • Maxine Albritton

    well, the wife alvi is gone and so are the children and they should never be let back. These muslim scumbags have infiltrated our country including government jobs and office see where it will get us. So next muslim that runs for office remember this tale. They are here to take over and they have been allowed to do that so far. It is great that they are going to be stopped. I understand the demos are priming one of these scumbags for president in two thousand twenty. Lets all be sure to vote him out. oops my islamophobia is showing.

    • nocbsfan

      Let it show, we all need to see it.

      • Maxine Albritton

        thanks, i rhink ao I am so glad P. Trump is putting a stop to most of this. I am also glad he plans to go after the big three.

        • jaybird

          Who is being primed for President in 2020 by the Demorats???

          • Maxine Albritton

            I cannot remember his muslim name, No surprise there. but I think the first starts with an A. He is about thirty four years old. a doctor but the article did not specify medical doctor or Phd. American born, belongs to the brotherhood. definitely muslim and is proud of it. Might cool that a little when and if he runs as planned. He is by their standards handsome. that is all I know. The DNC had so much luck with obama they had talked about putting up another. the left will probably go ga , ga over this one. the woman will probably drool over him.

          • Marie Saqueton

            Yup, the Hollywood dopers will promote him. Nothing surprises me anymore with the moral decadence in our society these days.

          • Marie Saqueton

            We don’t care who, just no vote for any of them.

        • nocbsfan

          I have great confidence in our President to do the right thing. in fact i am so sure of him that I am not worried at all. And you should not either

          • Marie Saqueton

            Easier said than done my friend, when his safety is at stake right now. We need to pray hard for his safety and also for the military and the police to be there for him, which I am pretty sure they will be.

          • nocbsfan

            I have confidence he will do the right thing IF the liberal congress will let him. People are dying right and left who goes against Soros and the Clintons Yes his safety is in jeopardy, and who do you trust ?

    • Marie Saqueton

      We opened the gate for them to come in in droves when Obama was elected, so blame the libtards and the crooked DEMONCRATS.

  • Joseph Miller

    Nothing to see here/ just a terrorist and his treasonous business partners trying to destroy America.
    I bet the folks below are correct- if he has any dirt in the Clinton’s he will “commit suicide”- not that i wish that on him or anyone, but it does seem to occur at a high rate with those connected to the clintons.
    There was a case in Arkansas years ago where a Clinton connectee was decapitated in A very bizarre way and almost impossible to self inflict- yep you guessed it Arkansas coroner ruled it a suicide!

  • Amos10

    What does that say about Democrat elected politicians when we learn they aid and support criminal aliens? The poor, dumb voters who keep sending these Democrats back to Congress will never learn that they are being cuckold, deceived and ripped off by the Democrat traitors to the American way of life.

    • nocbsfan

      Just remember this and bring it up several times next year. Something we all need to do. Get rid of Democrats and take our country back again

  • Mike W

    How embarrassing for the Democrats – they were ripped off for a change. Not only were they hacked but they paid the hackers $4,000,000.
    “The Capitol Police confronted her at the airport but could not stop her.” Why?
    Debbie Wasserman Schultz made threats against the Capitol Police when they would not turn over to her a computer found wedged between two buildings during their investigation. Why were charges never brought against Schultz for those threats?
    The Seth Rich murder investigation has gone nowhere. Many people strongly believe that the Clintons are somehow mixed up in this murder especially in light of the two most recent “suicides” of two people involved in Clinton investigations – 2 more added to a long long list. have read the the Capitol Police have drooped the case. I have never heard of a murder case being “dropped” – there is no statute of limitations on murder. But – all of these cases involve the Capitol Police – who come under the jurisdiction – as do the crimes – of the Washington D.C. District Attorney’s office. Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s brother Steven Wasserman is an assistant D.A. in that very office. Coincidence? Another coincidence?

    • jaybird

      The article said that $4m was taxpayers salaries. Some other money did come from the Demorats of Congress.

      • Mike W

        The money may have came from the taxpayers but it was authorized by the Democrats who hired them. You have to remember too that the DNC is now not only broke – but in debt. Hillary complained about having to use her own money to campaign because the DNC could/would not give her money. California is over 1/2 a trillion in debt. Look at Detroit, Chicago et.al., these are Democrat controlled cities they are all crime ridden and broke – yet these are the people who want to tell the rest of us what “we” are doing wrong?

        • jaybird

          That is not the same as the Demorats being ripped off for a change which is what you posted. Same old sheet the taxpayer got ripped off!

          • Mike W

            What do you think is worth more the money – or all the information these IT people have in their possession? They have the files on a lot of things the DNC etc do not want the world to know about. The DNC is broke – why?

          • Marie Saqueton

            Mike never mind the DNC being broke, they’ll get it back quick in corruption. What we have to worry about is the confidential information and the access this couple had been given to our Congressmen and Senator’s emails etc. Now that he is arrested and detained the more the wife will betray us and sell the info. to our enemies. Someone more powerful cleared her through customs because they never even checked her luggage, and with that kind of money getting our of the USA, she should have been cleared by SEC. But she went foo without a hitch. Why? And who cleared her is the question. Are we the public smarter than our own elected officials and security people or what?

          • Mike W

            The Democrats obviously played fast and loose with classified information. Was it intentional at some levels? Then they blamed the hacking on everyone but themselves. These IT people were in a perfect position to gather all kinds of classified materials. They also it seems knew/know the passwords for many accounts that they could/can get into at will. The Democrats did a lot of damage to national security and are doing everything in their power to put that blame on President Trump. But the mounting evidence is calling them all liars.

        • Marie Saqueton

          Hillary’s money was from George Soros and the Bilderberg Group. Hillary will never use her own money, especially the billions she stole from the Haitian EQ victims, and the $2.35 million she got from the Russian Govt. Uranium One Company, after she sold us out to them. Are you kidding, she is greedy.

    • Marie Saqueton

      Now, the tangled web unfolds…it is who is in control and Steven Wasserman must have played a part in letting the wife go with all that cash. Don’t you think so? The wife should have been detained with all that cash out of the country, so someone powerful must have vouched to clear her with customs. WOW, the DNC corruption never ends.

  • Jackson Brannon

    They better watch it!! Hitlary’s Murder Suicide squad will be on Patrol!! This does make me wonder why Debbie Was a man bullied the police into getting that laptop back!!! NOW WE KNOW!!!

    • Leonard Collings

      He won’t live long in jail.

  • Nick Mastrovito

    Oops,,,,

  • Jose Cisneros

    Schultz should be held on charges of being a traitor for giving access of her ipad. I think that only US citizens should have such high profile jobs. It seems like schultz and clinton did the same thing by giving unauthorized people access to her email account. FBI should be investigating if he emails are secure or not. Which leads me to question who is paying them to leave their email accounts unsecure. schultz and clinton should be arrested and tried for being traitors then when found guilty executed immediately ridding of this cancer.

    • Marie Saqueton

      Pelosi too was caught giving her ipad to the guy.

  • faithhopelove123

    These guys are CIA and they were spying on Congress, mostly republicans I’m guessing. How do you frame them to this massive extent. DNC, Congressional leadership and Democrats are corrupt to the bone. This is treason!

  • Mai Tran

    Now you knew why they fight him viciously the minute he decide to run

  • Leonard Collings

    Lucky the American Middle Class recognized the Democrats for the traders they are.

  • Walter J Williams

    When will America see the DNC crime syndicate is out to destroy our government?

  • Amos10

    $283,000.00, Just whose money was this?

    • Marie Saqueton

      With that kind of money, she should have been detained. Like I said she must have been cleared by someone powerful, like Democrat elected officials?

  • Joe Samo

    Lock her up too.

  • x_ray_tech

    He did have clearance to the government server too. Don’t forget that or overlook exactly what that means. All that they did get him on and he is not in jail, at minimum, for trying to elude/flee whatever the appropriate legal terms, as if any one of the other charges they actually cited are not enough, especially considering his position of employment and government accesses.. House arrest? Ankle monitor? You’ve got to be kidding, right?! What a joke. A joke on the American people that is. All his accomplices should also be in jail right now.

    This guy is actually pretty minuscule compared to who all and what all we do have planted within our government (even NASA). There is what should be shocking number of muslims with terrorist ties within our government and more who left before obama did, only because they were exposed to the citizens (think of Mohamed Eldibiary who was in Homeland Security and tweeting to ISIS his support and allegiance, etc – allowed to “retire” when citizens started complaining and then moved to Texas right across the border from where we found an ISIS camp in Mexico. We hear nothing more about this guy – and what kind of government retirement package is he collecting via obama letting him off?).

    Jeff Sessions turns out to be *not* a strong, fearless, (and Constitutional) BULL DOG and that is what we need, desperately, if we are to drain the government swamp and illegals and unvetted “refugees” to clear this country of all who are destroying us. We also now fully realize how many non conservative, non constitutional, un American ‘one world order’ and socialist/communists duped and infiltrated the Republican party, right? That was all part of the plan just as much as to fill our schools with the same in order to indoctrinate entire generations to mindless sheeple. They infiltrated the R party so that it no longer matters how we the people vote or who is president. They will always vote socialist/communist, one world order. This is not only a “soft coo” of President Trump that is taking place. America has already been taken over for some time now.

    • Marie Saqueton

      For all we know, his wife carried copies of what he got (confidential and all) and will sell it to the highest bidder in Pakistan. There goes our security again. Did they even search her luggage? They should have detained her here until she is cleared. See how inept our security system is? She must have had a powerful politician with her to clear her through customs? Maybe Pelosi, Waters or Cummings?

  • jeff

    His getting his relatives on the payroll is like a third world country. I wonder how many other officials family members are on the payroll. This in itself demands an investigation.

    • jaybird

      Sounds like the Clinton’s and Hillary’s brother in Haiti. He squandered the Clinton money that was for the Haitian’s to rebuild.

      • Marie Saqueton

        $14,BILLION of it and got the mining contract for her brother too.

  • Joe Samo

    How was his wife able to leave the country? I wonder if it was by some congressional document signed by Debbie.

    • Marie Saqueton

      A passport is all she needs.

      • Joe Samo

        In her case she would need a airline ticket too.

        • Mister Vice

          That’s the easy part…no one questions your motive until you get to customs and we all know what a snap that is as long as your passport is valid.

          • Joe Samo

            Right but it is needed.

          • Joe Samo

            Maybe she got out under the wire…but an active investigation would not stop her from leaving the country.

      • Joe Samo

        wasn’t she part of the investigation?

  • Ruby83

    Gross! This should be a lead story on all tv news outlets and front page in newspapers.

    • Marie Saqueton

      I agree, yet the corrupt, lapdog, biased mainstream media are still talking about Russia. Proves to you that the MSM is now controlled by the 11 COMMUNIST ORGANIZATIONS in America.

  • Jmanjo

    We all know darn well the Democrats have been the rats behind the hacking, the lying, and the colluding! Arrest them all. And the Muslim IT boys are on the run. Perfect ending for the liberals!

  • Joe Samo

    Democratic members of Congress, including Rep. Gregory Meeks of New York, have suggested that police had framed the Pakistani-born brothers out of Islamophobia. Yet his own stepmother, a devout Muslim, filed court documents accusing him of using high-tech devices to wiretap her and extorting her (see p. 23 of court documents in that case). A dozen people who have dealt with Imran painted a picture in interviews with TheDCNF of a charming, “cunning” extrovert who bragged about his power among Democratic officials and who seemed to have an unquenchable…lock up Meeks…he has to be part of it too.

  • What’s that you say?

    Hey where is Steve and KO?
    Cheap little Trolls. Where are you?
    Funny how you two disappear when the truth comes out.

  • Hildee

    How can these people go through customs with that amount of money without being suspect… and these people are getting away with crime in the whitehouse..

    • Warren Blum

      Lots of hold overs from Obama and the cops have been brainwashed by 8 yrs of a corrupt PC legal system.

  • Sam MC Ilhone

    DNC HACKERS ARE JUMPING SHIP

  • PastProdigal

    It’s just lovely to know that all these people are being supported through out tax dollars, is it not? Amass huge amounts of taxpayer money and flee the country. Democrats are such good judges of character. Sheesh.

    • Marie Saqueton

      For more than 50 years of majority in both houses DEMONCRATS mismanaged our assets, and yet idiots still vote for them?

  • independent thinker

    The feds had better lock him up with no bail because he is a flight risk or waterboy Sgt Schultz will help him flee the country aided by other democrats with connections to him and his relatives.

    • Marie Saqueton

      They better record their questioning of him before he is found dead like that pilot in protective custody. He was supposed to testify of what he heard Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton were talking about in the plane, but he was murdered….again claimed as suicide?

  • JR

    Who needs the Russians to dig up the dirt on the Criminal Activities of the Democrat Party representatives. It wouldn’t surprise me if the money was intended for supporting terrorists. Likely, good freinds with Pelosi and Schumer.

    • Marie Saqueton

      We do not need the Russians, Obama did all his surveillance in a German location and Merkel is very angry at him who is also one of the victims.

      • Cheh Low

        Merkel is a stupid woman who causes plenty of problem to the German citizens in their own country. I suggest sending all the corrupt Demorats to Germany. May be Merkel will help the rats.

  • Sylvia Avila

    About time! now let’s get to the Clinton’s, they should of left the country when they could, to late, Jail waiting for them now!!!

  • Sam Raman

    in 2010, a NY Court had convicted 3 Pakistan origin US residents for planning terror attacks in Manhattan, NY. The credit card scam exposed in NJ and NY in 2015 had Pakistan and India links, milking $millions from Americans by making FAKE credit cards. The IRS impersonation /extortion call scams in 2016 had links to both India and Pakistan…milking $millions from US tax payers. The FBI raids and arrests in both these SCAMS in USA were down played by Democrats.

    DOJ and DHS need to wake up before another disaster like 9/11 incident and nail the illegal money flow and political nexus with Pakistan based terror groups. The Pakistani PM is currently under investigation in PANAMA scam (money laundering) where it is believed many US residents names had surfaced exposed by a British media but were likely ignored by Obama Govt. It is time the US DOJ conducted a full investigation in this scam…which will sure shock America. It was amazing Prez. Trump had praised Pakistan PM Sharif. who is likely to resign soon in the exposed Panama scam.

  • WVF

    Hopefully, we’ll see a C5-A aircraft filling up with the Clintons, Obama, Lynch, Holder, Comey, and a host of others climbing aboard to escape the long arm of the law. It will take an aircraft this size to get all of them out of the country.

    • Marie Saqueton

      We have to put fire on Atty. General Sessions first, to get going with Judicial investigations not Congressional probes. This way we can get some indictments going before every evidence or witness is destroyed or killed. Hillary already bit-bleached most of hers. The wheel of justice when it comes to politicians is very,very slow. I think they are just waiting for her to die a natural death as I’ve read she is deathly sick.But their very slow prosecution is an embarrassment for us to the world who are now laughing at our Judicial system and at our elected officials….with no guts.

      • WVF

        At this point, I’m not sure a military flamethrower would get Sessions moving. I don’t think he’s ever heard of the concept of a grand jury indictment. It’s not that he hasn’t done some right things, it’s just that he hasn’t done enough of the right things right. Most of us Americans want criminals, like Obama, Clintons, Lynch, Holder, Brennan, Comey, Rice, et. al punished for their wrongdoing.

  • Being associated with Wasserman Schultz is enough to convince me that illegal activities are at play .

    • nocbsfan

      Jerry, what makes you think like that. Surely not, why on earth would democrats want to do anything illegal ? How much money do you think she needs to catch up with the President ? Go ahead say it to me, I won’t tell.

      • nocbsfan,

        Aw come on. Ewe know that liberals have no sense and honesty is not anything they understand.

        • nocbsfan

          Yeah, I will go along with democrats have no sense of honesty.

          • It is so obvious that us “ignorant” conservatives can detect it instantly as soon as one opens their mouth.

          • nocbsfan

            That is because while they were learning to be dishonest, we were learning to do

          • nocbsfan,

            I believe it is a fact that and especially their upbringing which was usually not Christian while more conservatives are Christian that make that difference between
            behavioral characteristics.

          • nocbsfan

            Its hard to decide what exactly is the behavioral characteristics of liberals. When you are that inconsistent

          • Vell, Oly, inconsistency is consistent with liberals. But violence is much more common as a consistency with them. And we are consistently right, right?

          • nocbsfan

            At least we are consistence, are we ?

          • nocbsfan,

            Sho Nuff!

          • nocbsfan

            OH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • nocbsfan,

            Now I am in trouble. I am absolutely positive that I distinctly recall that I do not remember what we are talking about.

          • nocbsfan

            LOLOL 🙂 That is really funny, but you know what ? I don’t have a clue as to what we have been talking about

          • nocbsfan,

            RATZ! I was counting on your superb memory track as mine jumped the track way back when. But who cares? We will come up with some other agenda to spar about. There was a lady called VirginiaFr who concluded that I was from the back country because I dared to say that that the Bible has disastrous news for those who support abortion. She was right. I was raised in the back country about 100 miles from Boise, Idaho on the South Fork of the Payette River just a few miles from the largest wilderness area in the lower 48, called the River -of-no-Return. Unfortunately for her, she did not know that I was actually quite educated so I told her. I had read my way though McGuffy’s third reader. I have heard nothing back from her since.

          • nocbsfan

            As confusing as your post is, I fail to see the point. You may be educated but I don’t think you have been all the way through McGuffy’s third reader. And who is Virginia Fr I am not from the backwoods so I have never heard of her. Please enlighten?

          • nocbsfan,

            I yam confusing? Nah, I lied about finishing McGugffy’s third reader. I am only on the fourth page.
            As for VirginiaFR, she responded to my latest comment on abortion, which I oppose. She said I was likely a hick from the stix and was totally ignorant. But I fooled her by making her think I had finished McGuffy’s Third Reader. I think we have participated in some discussions about abortion but maybe not with her/him/???. Did I tell you what people in Prague call abortions? Cancelled Czechs.

          • nocbsfan,

            Have we discussed abortion? I am sure we have but who knows with my memory?

          • nocbsfan

            I don’t know. I have discussed abortion with so many people I can’t keep up with to whom it was, do you know?

          • nocbsfan,

            Well, we have one thing in common – DUH!

            I oppose it because the Bible from Exodus to Revelation refers to the Book of Life. That Book exists only in Heaven and God is in control of it. No human has ever had the right to decide life/death.

          • nocbsfan

            I don’t know where you went

          • nocbsfan,

            I went out back and the hogs ate me.

          • Kol

            LOLOLOLOL!!!!

          • nocbsfan

            Great Scott man did you taste good ?

          • The hogs all died.

          • nocbsfan

            I don’t guess you tasted very good

          • nocbsfan,

            Some things just ain’t gud to eat.

          • nocbsfan

            The hogs or you ?

          • nocbsfan,

            Ham sandwiches are delicious. People sandwiches are not especially appealing to me. How about you?

          • nocbsfan

            I don’t know, never tried one made out of people. guess i’ll stick to ham

          • nocbsfan,

            AHA! We agree on something! What did I do wrong?

          • nocbsfan

            We can agree on things easy just say the right thing.

          • nocbsfan,

            As my grand daughter always says, I am always Wright. Never Wong.

          • Kol

            16 Bible Verses about

            Know It Alls

            Romans 12:16 ESV / 7 helpful votes

            Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly. Never be wise in your own sight.

            1 Timothy 1:7 ESV / 5 helpful votes

            Desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make confident assertions.

            Ecclesiastes 3:7 ESV / 5 helpful votes

            A time to tear, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

            1 Corinthians 8:1-13 ESV / 4 helpful votes

            Now concerning food offered to idols: we know that “all of us possess knowledge.” This “knowledge” puffs up, but love builds up. If anyone imagines that he knows something, he does not yet know as he ought to know. But if anyone loves God, he is known by God. Therefore, as to the eating of food offered to idols, we know that “an idol has no real existence,” and that “there is no God but one.” For although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth—as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”— …

            Luke 18:14 ESV / 4 helpful votes

            I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”

            1 John 3:20 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            For whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything.

            2 Timothy 3:16 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

            1 Corinthians 4:6 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another.

            Mark 11:1-33 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            Now when they drew near to Jerusalem, to Bethphage and Bethany, at the Mount of Olives, Jesus sent two of his disciples and said to them, “Go into the village in front of you, and immediately as you enter it you will find a colt tied, on which no one has ever sat. Untie it and bring it. If anyone says to you, ‘Why are you doing this?’ say, ‘The Lord has need of it and will send it back here immediately.’” And they went away and found a colt tied at a door outside in the street, and they untied it. And some of those standing there said to them, “What are you doing, untying the colt?” …

            1 Corinthians 1:1-31 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Paul, called by the will of God to be an apostle of Christ Jesus, and our brother Sosthenes, To the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. I give thanks to my God always for you because of the grace of God that was given you in Christ Jesus, that in every way you were enriched in him in all speech and all knowledge— …

            John 4:22 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews.

            John 4:1-54 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Now when Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus was making and baptizing more disciples than John (although Jesus himself did not baptize, but only his disciples), he left Judea and departed again for Galilee. And he had to pass through Samaria. So he came to a town of Samaria called Sychar, near the field that Jacob had given to his son Joseph. …

            John 1:1 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

            Mark 12:1-44 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            And he began to speak to them in parables. “A man planted a vineyard and put a fence around it and dug a pit for the winepress and built a tower, and leased it to tenants and went into another country. When the season came, he sent a servant to the tenants to get from them some of the fruit of the vineyard. And they took him and beat him and sent him away empty-handed. Again he sent to them another servant, and they struck him on the head and treated him shamefully. And he sent another, and him they killed. And so with many others: some they beat, and some they killed. …

            Mark 5:1-43 ESV / 1 helpful vote

            They came to the other side of the sea, to the country of the Gerasenes. And when Jesus had stepped out of the boat, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit. He lived among the tombs. And no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain, for he had often been bound with shackles and chains, but he wrenched the chains apart, and he broke the shackles in pieces. No one had the strength to subdue him. Night and day among the tombs and on the mountains he was always crying out and cutting himself with stones. …

            Mark 4:1-41 ESV / 1 helpful vote

            Again he began to teach beside the sea. And a very large crowd gathered about him, so that he got into a boat and sat in it on the sea, and the whole crowd was beside the sea on the land. And he was teaching them many things in parables, and in his teaching he said to them: “Listen! A sower went out to sow. And as he sowed, some seed fell along the path, and the birds came and devoured it. Other seed fell on rocky ground, where it did not have much soil, and immediately it sprang up, since it had no depth of soil. …

          • Kol,

            Nice list. I am familiar with all of them. I advise you to take your own heed to them. But the real issue is this:
            John 3: 11-10 Jesus tells Nicodemus what he needs to do to be a Christian. In I John chapter 5, John explains the process of becoming a real Christian. That is the game changer. I have done that. You obviously have not. So, your pot calling the kettle black does not sell well with me.

          • Kol

            75 Bible Verses about

            Snide Comments

            2 Peter 3:9 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.

            2 Timothy 3:15 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            And how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.

            2 Timothy 2:15 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.

            Ephesians 1:13 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

            Ephesians 1:3 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,

            Acts 15:1-41 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.” And after Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and debate with them, Paul and Barnabas and some of the others were appointed to go up to Jerusalem to the apostles and the elders about this question. So, being sent on their way by the church, they passed through both Phoenicia and Samaria, describing in detail the conversion of the Gentiles, and brought great joy to all the brothers. When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and the elders, and they declared all that God had done with them. But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.” …

            Acts 10:48 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to remain for some days.

            John 17:17 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.

            Jude 1:3 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.

            2 Peter 3:15 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him,

            1 Peter 3:6 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            As Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord. And you are her children, if you do good and do not fear anything that is frightening.

            Titus 3:5 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,

            2 Timothy 4:13 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            When you come, bring the cloak that I left with Carpus at Troas, also the books, and above all the parchments.

            2 Thessalonians 2:9 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,

            Colossians 2:1-23 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            For I want you to know how great a struggle I have for you and for those at Laodicea and for all who have not seen me face to face, that their hearts may be encouraged, being knit together in love, to reach all the riches of full assurance of understanding and the knowledge of God’s mystery, which is Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. I say this in order that no one may delude you with plausible arguments. For though I am absent in body, yet I am with you in spirit, rejoicing to see your good order and the firmness of your faith in Christ. …

            Ephesians 2:8 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,

            Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

            Ephesians 2:1-3 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.

            Ephesians 1:20-23 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            That he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. And he put all things under his feet and gave him as head over all things to the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills all in all.

            Ephesians 1:1-23 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints who are in Ephesus, and are faithful in Christ Jesus: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, …

            Galatians 5:19 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,

            2 Corinthians 6:17 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you,

            2 Corinthians 5:11 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Therefore, knowing the fear of the Lord, we persuade others. But what we are is known to God, and I hope it is known also to your conscience.

            1 Corinthians 13:13 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

            1 Corinthians 1:2 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            To the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours:

            1 Corinthians 1:1 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Paul, called by the will of God to be an apostle of Christ Jesus, and our brother Sosthenes,

            Romans 11:22 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off.

            Romans 10:14-15 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching? And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!”

            Romans 9:1-33 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            I am speaking the truth in Christ—I am not lying; my conscience bears me witness in the Holy Spirit— that I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were accursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, my kinsmen according to the flesh. They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises. To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen. …

            Romans 8:6-8 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God’s law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

            Romans 8:1 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

            Romans 4:1-25 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, …

            Romans 3:10 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            As it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one;

            Romans 3:1-31 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the value of circumcision? Much in every way. To begin with, the Jews were entrusted with the oracles of God. What if some were unfaithful? Does their faithlessness nullify the faithfulness of God? By no means! Let God be true though every one were a liar, as it is written, “That you may be justified in your words, and prevail when you are judged.” But if our unrighteousness serves to show the righteousness of God, what shall we say? That God is unrighteous to inflict wrath on us? (I speak in a human way.) …

            Romans 1:17 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith, as it is written, “The righteous shall live by faith.”

            Acts 22:16 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name.’

            Acts 15:11 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.”

            Acts 11:18 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            When they heard these things they fell silent. And they glorified God, saying, “Then to the Gentiles also God has granted repentance that leads to life.”

            Acts 5:1-42 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            But a man named Ananias, with his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property, and with his wife’s knowledge he kept back for himself some of the proceeds and brought only a part of it and laid it at the apostles’ feet. But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back for yourself part of the proceeds of the land? While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not at your disposal? Why is it that you have contrived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.” When Ananias heard these words, he fell down and breathed his last. And great fear came upon all who heard of it. …

            Acts 4:13 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated, common men, they were astonished. And they recognized that they had been with Jesus.

            Acts 2:38 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

            John 17:1-26 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed. …

            John 15:1-27 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            “I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in me that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. Already you are clean because of the word that I have spoken to you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. …

            John 14:6 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

            John 8:43 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word.

            John 8:12 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

            John 6:63 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

            John 6:37 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.

            John 3:36 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

            John 3:18 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

            John 3:16 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

            John 3:5 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

            John 3:3 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

            John 3:1-36 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. …

            Luke 22:57 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            But he denied it, saying, “Woman, I do not know him.”

            Luke 13:3 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.

            Matthew 10:32 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            So everyone who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven,

            Matthew 7:21 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

            Matthew 7:20 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.

            Matthew 7:16 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?

            Matthew 7:15 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

            Matthew 4:10 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’”

            Matthew 4:7 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Jesus said to him, “Again it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’”

            Matthew 4:4 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            But he answered, “It is written, “‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

            Daniel 4:35 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            All the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, and he does according to his will among the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand or say to him, “What have you done?”

            Ezekiel 32:32 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            For I spread terror in the land of the living; and he shall be laid to rest among the uncircumcised, with those who are slain by the sword, Pharaoh and all his multitude, declares the Lord God.”

            Ezekiel 26:21 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            I will bring you to a dreadful end, and you shall be no more. Though you be sought for, you will never be found again, declares the Lord God.”

            Isaiah 10:33 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Behold, the Lord God of hosts will lop the boughs with terrifying power; the great in height will be hewn down, and the lofty will be brought low.

            Psalm 16:11 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            You make known to me the path of life; in your presence there is fullness of joy; at your right hand are pleasures forevermore.

            1 Samuel 10:10 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            When they came to Gibeah, behold, a group of prophets met him, and the Spirit of God rushed upon him, and he prophesied among them.

            Deuteronomy 6:6-9 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.

            Genesis 6:1-22 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.” The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. …

            Genesis 1:3 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.

            Genesis 1:2 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

            Genesis 1:1 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

          • nocbsfan

            LOL See how easy it is ?

          • Yup, it’s easy if yer a woman. They re never Wong.

            I got my old buddy, Kol, on my case again. He never learns, unfortunately.

          • Kol

            You’re too stupid to teach. LOL! So how could anyone “learn” anything from you. Hee haw again, donkey-butt.

          • I doubt you can sell that idea very well. But you are certainly welcome to your opinion.

          • Kol

            Hey, thank you for giving me your permission to have an opinion!
            That’s so “Christian” of you! Wow!

            Hee HAWWWW!!!

          • Bye Bye. I won’t miss you – again. Go pester someone else. Yet full of BS but when I pinned you down on your Christianity, you got nasty. I gave you the precise steps to Christianity from the Bible and you ignored them. Lotsa luck with that.

          • nocbsfan

            Don’t worry about him, he is a paid troll. Nothing will be of any use with a troll, cause they are paid to argue. I have no idea why people get kicks out of that, however they do. (sigh) 🙂 Lets go kick some hogs and pretend they are KOL’s

          • Kol
          • nocbsfan

            ^^$#%&*()*&&^^%$%^&&*(()(*&*&^%$$%^^&&*((())(**&&^%%%$$###@@^^&&*^$#@%^&&

          • Kol
          • I know he is a nerd. I have deleted most of what he sent me but did answer some of him. People like him never offer proof of anything that is believable. He was having his fun until I unloaded on him the need for Spiritual birth. Then he got nasty.

          • Kol

            Yes, Christians Spew the Most ‘Hateful Internet Speech’ — Charisma …

            http://www.charismanews.com/…/44751-yes-christians-spew-the-most-hateful-internet-spee...

            Jul 23, 2014 – When it comes to hateful Internet speech, Christians are the worst. That’s the headline of an article by Washington Post columnist and OnFaith …

          • Kol

            What Does the Bible Say About Religious Hypocrites? – OpenBible.info

            https://www.openbible.info/topics/religious_hypocrites

            “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others.

          • nocbsfan

            Just block him. People like him is a nuisance, that wants nothing except to be a nuisance. Guess that is what he is paid for. Anytime you hit him with spiritual truth, he will be obnoxious. Even Satan is afraid of the truth. Tis shameful that people have to be as he is.

          • Kol

            Spiritual truth? LOL!… you pretend to be “Christian”???

          • nocbsfan,

            No fan of Kol, either. I shut him down.

          • nocbsfan

            Yeah let him go pester liberals, no one else will listen to him

          • I shut him off. I like our nonsense better.

          • nocbsfan

            Our non- sense doesn’t demean any one but ourselves, and I guess we are allowed to do that.

          • It is full of humor. That’s what counts.

          • nocbsfan

            I find that it helps one’s sanity. I will insert humor here cause sometimes these comments get separated

          • We do not at the moment, have any Biblical issue for comment. That’s fine. One will come along soon enough. Here is a potential pone. I am Southern Baptist with a little Penticostal lean. Does that open any doors for discussion?

          • I just bid him farewell. I will deletes any other emails he sends. I did it once before but he got back after men because of our nonsense on email. Back to our nonsense.

          • nocbsfan

            Don’t just delete his emails, block him then you are done with him. He can’t touch me with his nonsense. BTW where were we.

          • You don’t remember where we were? For shame. Neither do I. I have to go off for much of the day so I may not respond for a bit. But I will do my best to stir up something.

          • nocbsfan

            Okay, see you later. In the meantime I will cross you with something

          • Just going out the door. Seed yez later.

          • Kol

            When it Comes to Hateful Internet Speech, Christians Are the Worst …

            https://www.onfaith.co/onfaith/2014/07/17/…hateful-internet…christians…/33131

            Jul 17, 2014 – When I started OnFaith, the mail became comments on the Internet — and they … More on: bigotry, Christian, hate mail, New York Times, online …

            Yes, Christians Spew the Most ‘Hateful Internet Speech’ — Charisma …

            http://www.charismanews.com › Opinion › Watchman on the Wall

            Jul 23, 2014 – When it comes to hateful Internet speech, Christians are the worst. … I wrote—which was usually about spirituality more than religion—but were …

            Christians Responsible for Most ‘Hateful Internet Speech,’ Says …

            http://www.christianpost.com/…/christians-responsible-for-most-hateful-internet-speech-says...

            Jul 18, 2014 – (Photo: Wikipedia Creative Commons)Sally Quinn is journalist who has reported on religion for The Washington Post. An editor for The Washington Post’s religion section claimed that Christians were behind the majority of nasty and vile feedback she had received throughout her …

            Christians are the worst at spreading Internet hate! | Rev. B. Colin …

            https://www.linkedin.com/…/christians-worst-spreading-internet-hate-rev-brook-smith

            Dec 8, 2016 – Christians are the worst at spreading Internet hate! … Atheist hate mail is usually of a more intellectual persuasion, and they have never been …

          • The poor guy claims to know the Bible and quotes it. But he says he is an atheist and as such, has no idea what spiritual birth is. Without that, people flounder with the Bible.

          • I like to see his posts as I get them frequently from others. I want to stay on top of his false statements and take him to task. I have zero tolerance for such people.

          • Kol

            You have a “zero tolerance” of other people?
            My, my, my, how “Christian” of you!!!!

            What Does the Bible Say About Hating Others? – OpenBible.info
            https://www.openbible.info/topics/hating_others
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            What Does the Bible Say About Religious Hypocrites? – OpenBible.info
            https://www.openbible.info/topics/religious_hypocrites

          • I do like most all people. But you are an exception. You are off on wild tangents with not the slightest bit of proof. What you say and express is false at best. Sure, you can dig up scripture but you have no idea of the content of what Christianity is all about. How well yo know the wording of the Bible is one thing. But understanding it is something else. I specifically asked you about I John 5 and got no response. I am not surprised. You see, when one is born of the Spirit, it is the Holy Spirit that opens windows of understanding. It is the Holy Spirit who guides us and prepares our understanding. Therefore, when you call me stupid you are saying the Holy Spirit is stupid. Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is fatal. Matt. 12:31.

          • Kol

            When it Comes to Hateful Internet Speech, Christians Are the Worst …

            https://www.onfaith.co/onfaith/2014/07/17/…hateful-internet…christians…/33131

            Jul 17, 2014 – When I started OnFaith, the mail became comments on the Internet — and they … More on: bigotry, Christian, hate mail, New York Times, online …

            Yes, Christians Spew the Most ‘Hateful Internet Speech’ — Charisma …

            http://www.charismanews.com › Opinion › Watchman on the Wall

            Jul 23, 2014 – When it comes to hateful Internet speech, Christians are the worst. … I wrote—which was usually about spirituality more than religion—but were …

            Christians Responsible for Most ‘Hateful Internet Speech,’ Says …

            http://www.christianpost.com/…/christians-responsible-for-most-hateful-internet-speech-says...

            Jul 18, 2014 – (Photo: Wikipedia Creative Commons)Sally Quinn is journalist who has reported on religion for The Washington Post. An editor for The Washington Post’s religion section claimed that Christians were behind the majority of nasty and vile feedback she had received throughout her .

          • Kol,

            Go pedal your lies elsewhere. You are trying to tell me that the Holy Spirit is a liar. I just responded to that.

          • Kol

            How “Christian” of YOU!… to hate people you have never met, don’t even know, know absolutely nothing about. Fine “Christian” values you have! LOL! Why would I engage you in discussion about anything when confronted with your HATE, nasty insults, snotty remarks, and condescending, judging, holier-than-thou self-righteousness!?!! Sorry, I wouldn’t bother… won’t waste my time and someone as lowlife as that.

          • Kol,

            You don’t seem to understand. I like people, even you. It’s what they stand for that does not always set well with me. There is a difference betwen love/hate for people and something else again concerning their behavior. Most Christians do not hate LGBT people. what they have no stomach for is their behavior. I am that way with you. You have been decent with me in the past. I have no issue with you personally. But I have lots of them when it comes to your behavior which is less than friendly at the moment. I do not have time for radical rants. I do have time for sensible discussion.

          • nocbsfan

            Most of his statements make no sense, but if you wish to tolerate him, more power to you. I don’t have the tolerance any longer for people like that because I know where they are from. I have taught many people, and I know when it is useless.

          • nocbsfan,

            I do not dislike him, just his false beliefs. He thanked me for my behavior. I did have a long discussion of the Bible some months back and he was decent until I flatly would not go for his false agenda. A saved life is all I can hope for but that is enough. when he gets adamant, I shut him down for awhile. But I never give up on someone who is lost.

          • nocbsfan

            When he is ready to discuss things with a coherent manner, I would be glad to work with him. I just don’t think it ever will be.

          • nocbsfan,

            That, sir, is the crux of the matter. He does not understand the meaning of spiritual birth and its affects on our lives. If he did, we would have no disagreements as we who have excepted Jesus now live and think differently.

          • nocbsfan

            As of now I will just watch you work with him, and see how it goes

          • nocbsfan,

            I sent him packing for now. We shall see what what if anything he comes up with.
            Back home again. Another 100 degree day out. But we get them every year. Our record high is 111 and our record low is -25.

          • nocbsfan

            Gosh I thought you would be cool up there on the Alaskan border. It was only in the low eighties down south where I live. Your going to have to pack those hogs up and move…….Work with him if you want Jerry, but in my opinion you are wasting your time.

          • We are cooler than western Oregon today. But at 101, we are not bragging.

          • nocbsfan

            Enjoy the warmer weather while you can. I have been where you live and I know it gets cold there. (except now we have global warming) (if you don’t believe it ask Gore)

          • If it were not too hot or too cold we would have nuttin to complain about. Well, too much snow and rain this past winter/spring. Now it is fire season. (whine whine) what we do best.

          • nocbsfan

            Try Wine

          • Me, a good Baptist, drink alcoholic beverages? Absolutely not! Just wine for dinner.

          • nocbsfan

            Thought that is what I said

          • Maybe we should discuss this issue over a glass of wine. Actually, I have not had a glass of wine for years. I even quit drinking Pepsi. Now it is water or nothing. Somehow sand does not appeal to me.

          • Kol

            What Does the Bible Say About Hating Others? – OpenBible.info

            https://www.openbible.info/topics/hating_others

            =======

            What Does the Bible Say About Religious Hypocrites? – OpenBible.info

            https://www.openbible.info/topics/religious_hypocrites

            =======

            What Does the Bible Say About False Christians? – OpenBible.info

            https://www.openbible.info/topics/false_christians

            For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel …

          • What do you have against hogs? Yer banned from bacon today.

          • nocbsfan

            Nothing I used to raise them, trying to feed them you have to kick them out the way (gently of course) (cause they all loved me.) I am very fond of bacon and tomatoes, lettuce and mayonnaise And fresh bread (are all you girls listening)

          • nocbsfan,

            Sorry but I gave up transgender 80 years ago. No girl here. Well, the housekeeper is here this morning. Does that count?
            I am more of a ham fan than bacon. But I don’t turn down bacon, especially for breakfast. But I am on a low fat diet. Bacon for breakfast, ham sandwich for lunch, pork chops for dinner.

          • nocbsfan

            I wasn’t talking to you. I was talking t all those girls who eaves drop. Think I will try your low fat diet

          • Girls who know about my problems with women becoming unhealthy and dying, keep their distance from me. I don’t blame them. At least, I do not discourage them.

          • nocbsfan

            Pretty mixed up emotions. We lose loved ones and there isn’t much we can do about that at this time We look forward to God’s love and the resurrection. We are not to blame, no reason for you to blame yourself or think you cause it. Time for that glass of wine. The Son of God drank it.

          • Now there is an issue. I do not believe Jesus drank any wine nor did he create it.

          • nocbsfan

            Then I guess the Bible is a liar ? You need to study the Greek scriptures. Translation says wine and foolish doctrines just doesn’t matter

          • nocbsfan,

            Vel, Oly, the answer is simple. The Greek word oinos means literally, fruit of the vine. It can be grape juice or wine.
            A litle math is in order. The town of Cana was a small town. Perhaps 150-200 people attended the wedding. But let’s be generous and say 300 people attended.
            6 pots of 50 gallons each was 300 gallons of wine. GALLONS!

            Every man, woman and child would have been extremely drunk after that much wine. Then Jesus had the pots refilled and 300 gallons more was created. Now we are up to 600 gallons. GALLONS!
            If, on the other hand, it was all grape juice, likely the only isssue was diarrhea.

          • nocbsfan

            Yeah the urns were refilled and Jesus took water and created water, very good

          • Whoa, hoss. The Bible says oinos, which can be wine OR grape juice.

          • Ahah! To the Greek we shall go. The Greek word is oinos. The literal meaning is – fruit of the vine. That can be grape juice or wine.
            Let’s go to John 2:1-11.

            1. The little town has perhaps 100 people in it if that. Did they all attend the festivities? Likely not. 2. Let’s assume 50-100 more from around the area came. That = maybe 150 people. 3. Six stone water pots x20-30 gallons each = 150 gallons of oinos. Gallons!
            That means every man, woman and child had to consume more than enough wine to be totally drunk and sick. There is no mention of drunkenness. Jesus had all six pots refilled with water. It was turned to oinos as well. Did they drink all of that as well?

            On the other hand, if it was grape juice, it has no effect on the people, kids included, except maybe a trip to the outhouse.

          • nocbsfan,

            I do not blame myself that is more humor than fact. My first wife died from he effects of second hand smoke that led to lung problems and then congestive heart failure. My second wife is alive but not well. We are divorced because of very unusual circumstances. I could not longer afford her medical expense once I retired. Social Security told us that in order to get her on Medicaid, we had to get a divorce because I made too much money even in retirement. So we got a quickie divorce and she got on Medicaid. Then Social Security told us we did not need to get as divorce, just not live together. But now we do not trust Social Security so we stay divorced. She has heart problems a well as type 2 diabetes and celiac disease. She is a mess. She is 69 and is not at all well. But I still do support her. She is now living with her 93 year old mother who is healthier than she is. Go figure.

          • nocbsfan

            You need a CPA to keep all that straight. Before you did all that you should have seen a social Security Lawyer.Of course if you would have had me to advise you your troubles would have been over Truly I am sorry you have to go through this kind of stuff, stuff that our illustrious government set for us, so that we would not have to worry (sigh)

          • Not a lot of hard math involved. Anyway oinos is fruit of the vine not just wine. In any case, I would have enjoyed the wedding, methinks, except for the diarrhea. Did you know that diarrehea is a bunch of crap?

          • nocbsfan

            I always wondered about that ?

          • nocbsfan,

            I forgot to mention that my math knowledge came from McGuffy’s Third Reader, page 99.

          • nocbsfan

            Do you desire to discuss Abortion ?

          • nocbsfan,

            I just did. True, Exodus 20:13 says “You shall not murder”. The Hebrew word is not kill, but murder. But the right of life/death is reserved got God alone and no human has any right to make that decision. The number of times in the Bible that states God alone has control of that Book of Life far exceeds statements in the entire Bible and not just arguing over the one word.

          • nocbsfan

            Quibbling over words is ludicrous, whether it is murder or killing,either suggest you take a life that you had no business messing with. The penalty for doing so is death. There is very little debate over that issue.
            The real debatable issue is at what stage of human life is life itself. This is where all of the excuses come into play. If someone has already had an abortion, excuses are sought out to relieve the guilt. So the issue of when is a human, a human comes into play. Trying to convince someone who is guilty of killing a child by abortion is not easy to explain, because they don’t want to hear it. Easy for them to say, I murdered two of my children, but it is ok because they were not real yet. Well maestro it is your turn.

          • nocbsfan,

            That is why I do not rely on Exodus 20:13. I know the stupid arguments about when life begins. The point is that the Bible specifically says that only God has the Book of Life and no human has any right to alter whose in the Book of Life. That is the same as thumbing your nose at God. That got Eve in very deep trouble which she could not extract herself from. God does not like people contradicting what He has decreed. That’s called SIN big time. See Luke 10:20, Rev. 3:5. There are many more such references from Exodus through Revelation on this topic.

          • nocbsfan

            What very deep trouble did Eve get into, she never had to extract herself from anything.? Eve was deceived by Satan in tempting her to eat the fruit of the forbidden tree. Eve did not sin at that time. Lets not worry about the book of life, It does not come into the situation until after the ransom sacrifice. Before then it was of no use.

          • What happened after Eve ate the forbidden fruit? She talked Adam into eating from the tree also. Then came the issue of sin and the consequent death sentence. Up to that point, God had said nothing about a penalty.

            The Book of Life has great emphasis on life as it is all through the Bible. It cannot nor should it not be on our minds constantly. Any violation of that Book of Life contains great concern to God. It is repeated many times all through the whole Bible. I take it very seriously. The issue is that God alone has the power of life and death, not humans. God dealt with the flood and also Sodom and Gomorrah. The price was quite heavy. Total destruction was the result. Humans had no part in what took place. But God took His people out of harm’s way first. That is why I am pre- millenial.

          • Kol

            Yeah, right. Snakes climb around in trees and talk to people and they tell them to eat things they aren’t s’posed to!! Wheeeeee!!

            http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Crazy_d3e8f6_443570.gif

            https://media.giphy.com/media/YQ1xtJuNmxKNO/giphy.gif

          • Kol,

            I have not heard from you for awhile. But I have seen your comments to others. I am surprised that you did not jump on me concerning the Quran. I am well aware of your anti-bias concerning Christianity. Therefore you will just spur controversy no matter what I say. Yes, a snake (serpent) was speaking to Adam and Eve. But the voice was from Satan himself and not just a talking snake. Snakes can’t talk. We do not know if the “voice” of Satan was spoken aloud or was an internal voice to the minds/ souls of Adam and Eve. In any case, both were deceived by the “serpent” an as a result, sin (behavior) appeared for the first time in humans. I realize this is much beyond your level of comprehension but so be it.

          • Kol

            Fanaticism Is a Disease Like Alcoholism | Psychology Today

            https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/ambigamy/…/fanaticism-is-disease-alcoholis…

            Nov 4, 2014 – Fanaticism is a disease much like alcoholism. … The absolute truths that fanatics latch onto might be religious or political, right wing or left wing, …

          • Kol,

            Fanaticism is an interesting term here. Let’s see, you are a liberal minded person politically. The trend is to resort to violence to get your way. You seem to prefer Islam to Christianity. According to the 8th chapter of the Quran, Spoils of War, it is fine to destroy “infidels” by death. It is fine to hate them. It is fine to resort to wars to rid the earth of ” infidels” by any means. Throughout the Quran, Islam is to be followed by force. You are an atheist who follows blindly the concept of evolution which is badly bloated with misinformation because it is based on man’s knowledge to date, which is flawed since humans are flawed. Evolution never gets to a beginning. That’s why evolutionists keep backing he origins because they find nothing but evolving data.
            By contrast, I am called to accept Jesus voluntarily, not by force. It advocates love of people, not hatred. While I follow science, especially archeology and geology, I have yet to find any origins. Science seems to be stuck with no answers to origins. Am I to pin my future on nothings?

            So, if you are looking for no answers, hatred and violence, you have chosen the right path. And I am the fanatic?
            HORSEPUCKY!

          • Kol
          • Kol

            Proverbs 3:7 Be not wise in your own eyes: fear the LORD … – Bible Hub

            biblehub.com/proverbs/3-7.htm

            Don’t be impressed with your own wisdom. … Holman Christian Standard Bible Don’t consider yourself to be wise; fear the LORD and turn away from evil.

            What does the Bible say about being self-centered? – Got Questions?

            https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-self-centered.html

            Answer: Self-centeredness is defined as “immoderate concern with one’s own interests and well-being; self-love or egotism.” The Bible tells us “people who are …

          • Kol

            75 Bible Verses about

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            2 Peter 3:9 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.

            2 Timothy 3:15 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            And how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.

            2 Timothy 2:15 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.

            Ephesians 1:13 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

            Ephesians 1:3 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,

            Acts 15:1-41 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.” And after Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and debate with them, Paul and Barnabas and some of the others were appointed to go up to Jerusalem to the apostles and the elders about this question. So, being sent on their way by the church, they passed through both Phoenicia and Samaria, describing in detail the conversion of the Gentiles, and brought great joy to all the brothers. When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and the elders, and they declared all that God had done with them. But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.” …

            Acts 10:48 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to remain for some days.

            John 17:17 ESV / 3 helpful votes

            Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.

            Jude 1:3 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.

            2 Peter 3:15 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him,

            1 Peter 3:6 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            As Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord. And you are her children, if you do good and do not fear anything that is frightening.

            Titus 3:5 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,

            2 Timothy 4:13 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            When you come, bring the cloak that I left with Carpus at Troas, also the books, and above all the parchments.

            2 Thessalonians 2:9 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,

            Colossians 2:1-23 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            For I want you to know how great a struggle I have for you and for those at Laodicea and for all who have not seen me face to face, that their hearts may be encouraged, being knit together in love, to reach all the riches of full assurance of understanding and the knowledge of God’s mystery, which is Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. I say this in order that no one may delude you with plausible arguments. For though I am absent in body, yet I am with you in spirit, rejoicing to see your good order and the firmness of your faith in Christ. …

            Ephesians 2:8 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,

            Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

            Ephesians 2:1-3 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.

            Ephesians 1:20-23 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            That he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. And he put all things under his feet and gave him as head over all things to the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills all in all.

            Ephesians 1:1-23 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints who are in Ephesus, and are faithful in Christ Jesus: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, …

            Galatians 5:19 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,

            2 Corinthians 6:17 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you,

            2 Corinthians 5:11 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Therefore, knowing the fear of the Lord, we persuade others. But what we are is known to God, and I hope it is known also to your conscience.

            1 Corinthians 13:13 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

            1 Corinthians 1:2 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            To the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours:

            1 Corinthians 1:1 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Paul, called by the will of God to be an apostle of Christ Jesus, and our brother Sosthenes,

            Romans 11:22 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off.

            Romans 10:14-15 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching? And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!”

            Romans 9:1-33 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            I am speaking the truth in Christ—I am not lying; my conscience bears me witness in the Holy Spirit— that I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were accursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, my kinsmen according to the flesh. They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises. To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen. …

            Romans 8:6-8 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God’s law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

            Romans 8:1 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

            Romans 4:1-25 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, …

            Romans 3:10 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            As it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one;

            Romans 3:1-31 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the value of circumcision? Much in every way. To begin with, the Jews were entrusted with the oracles of God. What if some were unfaithful? Does their faithlessness nullify the faithfulness of God? By no means! Let God be true though every one were a liar, as it is written, “That you may be justified in your words, and prevail when you are judged.” But if our unrighteousness serves to show the righteousness of God, what shall we say? That God is unrighteous to inflict wrath on us? (I speak in a human way.) …

            Romans 1:17 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith, as it is written, “The righteous shall live by faith.”

            Acts 22:16 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name.’

            Acts 15:11 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.”

            Acts 11:18 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            When they heard these things they fell silent. And they glorified God, saying, “Then to the Gentiles also God has granted repentance that leads to life.”

            Acts 5:1-42 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            But a man named Ananias, with his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property, and with his wife’s knowledge he kept back for himself some of the proceeds and brought only a part of it and laid it at the apostles’ feet. But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back for yourself part of the proceeds of the land? While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not at your disposal? Why is it that you have contrived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.” When Ananias heard these words, he fell down and breathed his last. And great fear came upon all who heard of it. …

            Acts 4:13 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated, common men, they were astonished. And they recognized that they had been with Jesus.

            Acts 2:38 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

            John 17:1-26 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed. …

            John 15:1-27 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            “I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in me that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. Already you are clean because of the word that I have spoken to you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. …

            John 14:6 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

            John 8:43 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word.

            John 8:12 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

            John 6:63 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

            John 6:37 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.

            John 3:36 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

            John 3:18 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

            John 3:16 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

            John 3:5 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

            John 3:3 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

            John 3:1-36 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. …

            Luke 22:57 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            But he denied it, saying, “Woman, I do not know him.”

            Luke 13:3 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.

            Matthew 10:32 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            So everyone who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven,

            Matthew 7:21 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

            Matthew 7:20 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.

            Matthew 7:16 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?

            Matthew 7:15 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

            Matthew 4:10 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’”

            Matthew 4:7 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Jesus said to him, “Again it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’”

            Matthew 4:4 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            But he answered, “It is written, “‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

            Daniel 4:35 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            All the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, and he does according to his will among the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand or say to him, “What have you done?”

            Ezekiel 32:32 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            For I spread terror in the land of the living; and he shall be laid to rest among the uncircumcised, with those who are slain by the sword, Pharaoh and all his multitude, declares the Lord God.”

            Ezekiel 26:21 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            I will bring you to a dreadful end, and you shall be no more. Though you be sought for, you will never be found again, declares the Lord God.”

            Isaiah 10:33 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            Behold, the Lord God of hosts will lop the boughs with terrifying power; the great in height will be hewn down, and the lofty will be brought low.

            Psalm 16:11 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            You make known to me the path of life; in your presence there is fullness of joy; at your right hand are pleasures forevermore.

            1 Samuel 10:10 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            When they came to Gibeah, behold, a group of prophets met him, and the Spirit of God rushed upon him, and he prophesied among them.

            Deuteronomy 6:6-9 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.

            Genesis 6:1-22 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.” The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. …

            Genesis 1:3 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.

            Genesis 1:2 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

            Genesis 1:1 ESV / 2 helpful votes

            In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

          • Kol,

            All stuff you should take to heart yourself.

          • Kol

            What Does the Bible Say About Snide Comments? – OpenBible.info

            https://www.openbible.info/topics/snide_comments

            Bible verses about Snide Comments. … So, being sent on their way by the church, they passed through both Phoenicia and Samaria, describing in detail the …

          • I must day, you have mastered that practice.

          • Kol

            You must “day”??? Kak?

          • Sorry, my computer can’t spell.

          • Kol

            Neither can you.

          • nocbsfan

            Eve was deceived by Satan, she knew about the command not to eat of the tree, because Adam told her. God did not tell Eve but Adam only that if he ate from the tree IN THAT DAY HE WOULD SURELY DIE. Adam was given the command not to eat of the tree before Eve was created. Next we have theory. We don’t know how long Adam was alone, before Eve was created. (Gen. 2: 17-18) God saw that the man he created was good, and then God said “It is not good that man should be alone” Then he created a help mate. The burden of obedience was on Adam. Did Adam at this point worry that Eve would be taken from him and he would be alone once more,so Adam ate from the tree, sentencing man to death. Please note that it is not God’s fault that Adam disobeyed. Adam sinned of his on free will, because he did not have enough faith in God, and even blamed God for causing him to sin. (Gen. 3: 12). Let us not worry about the book of life. As I said before, man could not gain everlasting life until and if the ransom sacrifice was completed. Had Adam not sinned he would be still alive, and the book of life would not exist.

          • nocbsfan,

            I said Eve got Adam to eat from the tree that contained the forbidden fruit, whatever that was. That is what my Bible says. Yes, Adam preceded Eve. Yes, he also knew about the forbidden fruit. But just as Eve gave in to Satan and ate of the forbidden fruit, so did he. Therefore both jointly sinned before God by giving in to Satan.
            Adam and Eve have nothing to do with the Book of Life any more than any other human. Moses was the first to mention the Book of Life in Exodus 32: 32. How did he know about it? Evidently he was told about it by God. From that point on, the Book of Life was known to people. This verse plainly says God wrote it but no date
            In Psalm 69:28. David says that he requested those who were not righteous be blotted out of the Book of Life. Daniel 12:1 states that everyone who is found to be written in the Book of Life will be rescued. Malachi 3: 16 again speaks of the book of remembrance. Revelation 13:8 refers to the Book of Life which includes the names of everyone written in the Lamb’s Book of Life from the foundation of the world. The Book of Life predates any one’s choices down through history. Revelation 17: 8 says that the Book of Life began with the foundation of the world. Revelation 20: 15 says that anyone’s name who is not found written in the book of Life will be thrown into the lake of fire. The Book of Life is ongoing through the lives of all people whose names are written there. That is God’s predetermined plan for the human race. Every mention of the Book of Life pertains to God’s control over it.
            At no time do humans have any say on who is in or out of the Book of Life.

          • nocbsfan

            Jerry Branson; The book of life has been being compiled since mankind, the book will not be read until the judgement and after the resurrection. That has not occurred. It will not occur until that time. Until the time for the reading you need to work on being entered into the book of life. Thats it Jerry there is no more you can do with it.Now let’s go forth and try and get there………… You need to read 1 Tim 2:14, because you need to get the start before going forward And your not quite understanding it. Eve is not the bad guy, so quit trying to make her so. Eve did not sin, she was deceived, Adam didn’t even understand that. Adam sentenced us to death. This is a Key point of understanding the Bible….You mention your Bible, what Bible do you have? If it is an NIV then get yourself a new one. There is more bad information about the Bible out there than one can imagine. Your works and your knowledge is the only thing that is going to get your name into the book of life. AS Christ said You are known by your works

          • Kol

            Babble.

          • nocbsfan

            Of course its babble to someone like you. It is babble to majority of the world, you don’t have a patient on it lot of people way ahead of you.

          • Kol

            Don’t have a “patient” on it??? What in the world does THAT mean? LOL!

          • nocbsfan

            Very understandable that you have very little understanding. Little elementary school yard bully.Go find yourself 6 year olds and bully them. You don’t impress me

          • Kol

            You do something ridiculous and then act more ridiculous (and SNOTty) when somebody points it out. You don’t impress me.

          • nocbsfan

            Good go bully the little kids (PATENT) Do you go thru these forums looking for typo’s so you can feel important. Don’t you feel proud ?

          • Kol

            Ты действуешь как идиот. Зачем?

          • nocbsfan

            Kitendo kama idiot. Kwa nini?

          • Kol

            Good question, Why do you?

          • nocbsfan,

            I am not trying to make Eve a bad gal. I gave the specific scripture in Genesis that states what happened. Adam knew better than to eat of the forbidden fruit and did so. He cannot hide behind anyone. It’s all about choices.
            But I think you are missing the point on the Book of Life. Those who choose a life of sin have a real problem. That includes those who enter into an abortion or even endorse it. What I have sent you specifically states such. That is my point.

      • Marie Saqueton

        You are funny, thanks for the laugh.

        • nocbsfan

          Hi Marie, causing you to laugh is one great pleasure.And I am going to keep trying. For you are one of the few sane people of California

          • Marie Saqueton

            Thank you my friend. There are lots of good people in CA but they are just scared to death of the vicious libtards majority.. Laughter is the best medicine is true, especially now with all the negative reports about the safety of our President. May God always protect him and his family. Regards.

          • nocbsfan

            Marie my friendly sweetheart. Taking the majority for conservatives in CA would take more effort than winning the third world war. If it wasn’t for people like you within it’s borders I would just let them have it. But, I can’t say that because you live there. The safety of our President probably wont be to bad as now, but when he wins his second term then we are going to have to be on guard. Que la vida y la felicidad sean largas con nuestro Presidente.

          • Marie Saqueton

            Gracias amigo. I always enjoy your funny but intelligent posts, it makes me laugh. You are correct, we have so many uninformed, misinformed and blind loyalists to the Democratic party that it is next to impossible to make them conservatives. Well, I will be retiring soon and leaving this state for a more patriotic State if I can find one. God bless.

          • nocbsfan

            LOL 🙂 You are still selling properties,? Oh honey you need to retire, and you are really moving out of that corrupt State?. Wonderful news. Now we need to find a patriotic place ??? I dunno if one exist. Many claim to be but few display that kind of loyalty Not to worry we will find one.

          • Marie Saqueton

            Being self employed business woman all my life, it is not easy to quit. I had to finish my commercial listings.That is why I like Pres. Trump’s agenda for our economic growth, it is forward looking and free from restrictions imposed by other countries. The American economy is the biggest in the world, but it was mismanaged by the Democrats in their 50 years control of both houses. Now we have a President who is out of the beltway who is fighting for our economic survival but yet corrupt politicians are so against him. I love this country and I am patriotic, so I need to spend my golden years in an area where patriotism is still valued. Any suggestions? My best regards to you.

          • nocbsfan

            My Marie, This isn’t going to be easy and will take some research. I am sure you already know what kind of climate you want to retire in,Most of what you need to know is how a state feels about their country. Where you are living is such a beautiful place, it will be hard to change that. Let’s think on this. Later my Lady.

  • minefinder624

    Awan’s statement of “funeral arrangements” may be somewhat prophetic when the orders go out from Clinton Central .

    • Marie Saqueton

      Thanks for a good laugh….might come true.

  • Carol Murfield Monroe

    I think more Islamophobia is a good idea! These creatures have no morals or honor, and shouldn’t be anywhere near any government branch! They aren’t acting in the best interests of the country, but their own interests. Just like the evil creature who nearly destroyed our country and the WH. Money is the only thing they think about. I’m pretty sure that even their cult has other things in mind besides their wealth. Like murder, rape, abuse of tiny people, and baby rape!

  • Not A Farmer

    The swamp is very deep.

  • Lee Troutman

    Worthless pack of monkies…

  • hughcapet

    Sessions needs to kick it in gear and go after that Clinton cabal.

  • Henry Gregg Nash

    Well, that’s what happens when you know you are guilty but you don” want to pay for your crimes! “Little Debbie”, your butt will swing!

  • Cheh Low

    The Demorats and the Rinos are so corrupt that this country have infested with criminals and that is why President Trump has to drain the swamps as soon as possible and put all the criminals in jail.

    • Marie Saqueton

      So true and it took a businessman to expose the corruption in our government, that is why the corrupt BELTWAY wants to get rid of him, before he uncovers more. It is a HERCULEAN JOB for Pres. Trump and his Atty. General to drain the swamp in DC.

  • tinkerunique

    Another 0’bumma Muslim appointee ? He appointed many Muslims into his staff/cabinet/ and in national security positions. Nobody questioned the lack of “winning” the conflicts in the middle east except the combat personnel in the area = permission was needed from “the top” in order to fire on terrorists, that would take an hour or more to fire on that SPECIFIC target. Any questions on why America has such a defecit = Muslims sending MORE money to their “friends”.

  • Max Thor

    The Democratic scum rats are running away, run Dems run demwits….The Democratic party is the new Socialist communist Democratic party…..

    • Mister Vice

      How many folks agree with me that more than half the Democrats should be stamping out license plates instead of ruining this great nation with their stench?

  • Eguth3

    Somehow, I doubt you’ll be getting that return phone call, he’s probably on the run as well. The crooked and corrupt dimcrass remind me of cockroaches, you turn the lights on and they scatter and hide.

  • Flyby

    Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC still try to protect this Paki gonif claiming that this is islamophobia. Just another in many cases of the DNC hiring a someone for a no-show job where money was surely kicked back to the DNC. In this case 5 members of one family bilking the US taxpayers out of undoubtedly over 4 million dollars. How untypical of the Democrats.

  • travis690

    Smashed hard drives located at the (alleged) criminal’s home. Sounds like he may have been affiliated with the Clinton campaign.

    An employee paid an inflated salary, yet almost never shows up for work. What political party does that sound like?

    Taking funds from the Congressional Credit Union and wiring it overseas. Did they fill out an SAR for that? Did they get proper clearance from the Treasury Department to make the wire transfer?

    When the $12,400 was discovered in the wife’s luggage, was it confiscated? Or did she have her forms from the Treasury Department permitting her to take in excess of $10,000 cash out of the country?

    Demands to renters that payments be made in “untraceable” ways. Sounds like a scheme that the master asset-forfeiture guy Sessions would want to know about.

    An employer being informed that one of the people working for her is a suspect in all these crimes, yet refuses to fire him?

    Islamophobia? I don’t think so.

    Criminal behavior sounds a more likely reason.

  • Willie the 6’snake in the barn

    Nor surprised. the it tech was working for Wutzhername and the far alt radical left extremist anti Americans

  • Mister Vice

    Another bucket of crap that we’ll do absolutely NOTHING about! We don’t fix diddly squat…we just talk, talk, talk and analyze and post our opinion on useless forums! I am sick of this time wasting. When are we gonna get our collective heads out and get to work?

    • Marie Saqueton

      Try writing to DOJ- AG Sessions and ask him when his he going to prosecute or even charge these criminals?

      • Mister Vice

        I’ve written letter after useless letter to Washington and usually get nothing in return. Those people think they are self-employed. I just wrote Trump yesterday…we’ll see if I get a response from him.

  • Marie Saqueton

    What is wrong with Democrats protecting this corrupt man? Wasserman Schultz should be tried for using taxpayer’s funds for her inept work at the DNC and exposing our national security by hiring this Pakistani ITs who are now equipped with confidential information from Hillary’s and other Congress member’s emails and hard drives. The greed for money and power seems to be the only concern of corrupt Democrats.

    • nocbsfan

      Hi Marie, I believe you have come to the same conclusion That I have. Their greed for money and power seems to engulf their pocketbooks and minds. This country is being sold out by the democrats, 2018 is going to have to hurry, or there isn’t going to be a USA. I guess Hill is going to own it all, because if you go against her you don’t live long. The President is going to have to get his act together, drain the swamp and put reliable people in the White House.

      • Marie Saqueton

        You are absolutely correct, and if the Democrats keep on delaying his appointments, we are toast. I wish Democrats would write their own representatives and ask them who they are serving? Election is over and they are supposed to serve the country and it’s citizenry, but the way they are acting, as if their chains are being yanked by their PUPPETEERS who are so against Pres. trump’s agenda of making America great again. Their Puppeteers are our enemies, trying to get America to join their New World Order ideology. Pres. Trump won’t do that because it will lead to us losing our SOCEREIGNTY, and we will be subjected to the dictates of the very WEALTHY, POWERFUL, GLOBAL CABAL OF BANKERS AND INDUSTRIALISTS. Sometimes I wonder if the Democrat politicians are even aware of what is going on globally? They seem to be oblivious to the coming currency replacement of the dollar as the major ‘RESERVE CURRENCY for global trade. The International Monetary Fund just announced this week that America’s dollar in the “reserve currency basket” will be replaced or dominated by their new world currency the SDR (Special Drawing Rights).This is the biggest problem Pres. Trump is going to face, more than any wars abroad because it will affect all of us when DEFLATION HITS. This is the biggest global BUBBLE he was talking about. When all Central Banks of the world starts dumping our dollar and replacing their RESERVES with the NEW WORLD TRADE CURRENCY, we will have DEFLATION…WORST THAN inflation WHEN YOUR DOLLAR CAN’T HARDLY BUY ANYTHING. PRES. TRUMP KNEW ABOUT THIS YEARS AGO WHEN OBAMA KEPT BORROWING, TO THE TUNE OF $23,TRILLION NOW IN DEBT, THAT THE IMF, THE WORLD BANK AND THE BANK for INTERNATIONAL SETTLEMENTS DECIDED TO REPLACE THE DOLLAR FOR A MORE STABLE CURRENCY FOR GLOBAL TRADE. This will mean the loss of velocity for our dollar, because Central Banks all over the world will no longer use our dollar to trade, so they don’t need to buy our dollars for their reserve currency. If you read the ROTSCHILD controlled magazine: The Economist in 1988, this was in their article, “GET READY FOR THE PHOENIX.” A new global currency mechanism using IMF-SDR will start in 2018 and the ramification of it will be blamed on Pres. Trump by idiots who has no idea about how the WORLD’s economy is ruled by greedy and powerful Bankers and Industrialists. I read that Pres. Trump is fighting the GLOBALITS tooth and nail by creating something to safeguard our economy from getting sucked in. So far he was able to get us out of any multi-lateral trade agreements that would have subjected our trade at the mercy of other nations…he just wants bi-lateral trade agreements for our trade so we retain control. That was great because the New World Order of the Globalists would pull in, NAFTA & TPP through the banking system and control every member nation. Sorry, if I am boring you, but Economics was my major in college and I get so excited when something good happens for the economic survival of our country, and Pres. Trump did it, by getting out of any MULTI-LATERAL TRADE AGREEMENTS. Talk to you later Amigo. God bless.

        • Kol

          Donald Trump is DESTROYING America!!

        • Kol

          Derp.

        • nocbsfan

          You are never boring, in fact you are such a bundle of information it is hard to know where to start. My major was engineering, I can do the math but economics I will leave to experts like you. You make it so interesting I could read your articles all day. LOL sometimes I do.One thing about the President he has so much money I trust that he knows what to do. What ever the NWO tries to monkey with , he will know how to fix. If he doesn’t then I will recommend you. Then I will be sure

  • NOUNBELIEVER

    why were they on a government payroll?….to whom did they kick back their pay ? What scandal will true investigations find here? none..;politicos do not allow investigators to do the job…investigations in DC have become toilet humor…

  • Rolpho Signetti

    This is like Buma-nut sent that plane load of money to Iran! It was a payoff for his Iranian brothers. When somebody blew the whistle: uhhh… ohhh, it was a settlement for then Iranian hostage crisis…(yeah, they will believe that). How much money was it again? I cannot believe the total! And where did they get a plane load of unmarked, bills from multi-countries? They just had laying around. Maybe old Clinton era “lock boxes”? It just shows you if they have that much money non-accounted for just lying around… how much more is there? Hillary…. Hillary… where is it QueenWitch?

  • JWH (NRA LIFE)

    “The Rats leave the sinking Ship”, taking a “POT FULL OF MONEY” out of this Country because of the “Corrupt DEMS”!!!

  • davidnrobyn

    My wife and I lived in Pakistan for a while. What you read above is basically SOP of the way things are done there.

  • Craig Anderson

    This just goes to show what kind of criminal conglomerate Obama had going back then and now that it’s crumbling the rats are trying to grab what they can and jump the burning ship. This just one of those that were nabbed the rest had the initiative to send their ill gotten gains out before the election and are now waiting to see if they get close and then they’ll run.

  • Big John

    I didn’t think it was corruption unless you are a republican.
    So confusing…

    • Marie Saqueton

      Are you for real? Or, are you even from America? Either that or you are in denial or asleep?

      • Mike W

        I think he was being sarcastic

  • jdamsforall

    This goes all throughout Obama’s islamofascist gang of criminals….

  • J G Frakes

    These are the people that Hillary Clinton had working for her. I hope they find A LOT of information on these hard drives! This just goes to show what kind of people have been installed into places of power in our highest echelons of our government! Wasserman-Shulz should be given an ultimatum, either give up all that she knows or face life imprisonment, or don’t give it up, and it will be leaked that she has already spilled her information on the Clintons, and then let the Clinton hitman get her

  • KCK

    Want to lay odds on how long he lives before he’s suicided?

  • Shelly Jones

    This story is just one BIG f-k-g lie!! FOLKS!! The talk and words has nothing to do with the pictures of people here. Wasserman, hate her if you like, she is not one part of this story. They don’t even have names for the two people with the wire transfer for Pakistan. What a STUPID BUNCH OF BS!! Damn, you people are what makes it absolutely impossible for any good Republican (like me!) to be taken seriously at any time that they speak.

    • Rolpho Signetti

      But we can dream? Can’t we! After 8 years of bama-crap, any news(even fake) is welcomed!!

  • parthenon1

    Keep going we might be treated to Hillary being arrested and taken to jail yet !

  • Coffee49

    This Muslim freak will disappear from under the eyes of the FBI, the Dems are up to their arses in extortion, lies and fraud. Miss Piggy and her 25# of eye makeup should be in prison

  • Roy Veteto

    i love how those who in congress who are defending this man’s actios are playing the islamophobe card. my question is , when there are acts of terrorism linked to islam where are these apologists

  • William Sasman

    Shows you how unlawful the Democrat party is. All these so called leaders have muslin’s working for therm that are just giving off as much info to there homelands as they can get. If the DOJ would do there job they could put a stop to this and get all those they have on the list put away.

  • MS_Steve

    This nasty C U N T should be dragged in front of cameras, as she’s being led to a firing squad (or gallows)… so the rest of the DNC can see what’s in store for them when they’re caught. What a traitorous POS.

  • Mikial

    I’m sure the stink goes deeper than this, and that there are some Democrats who are sweating tonight that they won’t get caught. I don’t trust a single one of them; just look at all the criminal activity both Sanders and Clinton are involved in, and they wanted to be the POTUS.

    • Marie Saqueton

      That is why the DEMONCRATS want to get rid of Pres. Trump before he finds out more of their corruption. to them a good defense is a very strong offense, they must all be in sports..

  • Grumpy

    and none of these bastards have been arrested??????

    • Marie Saqueton

      That is why Pres. Trump is a bit disappointed with Atty. General Sessions for his slow charges against these people. They are deleting evidence or flying out of the country, when are they going to be arrested?

  • Marie Saqueton

    She was allowed because they were inept also. We are not supposed to bring out of US more than $10,000 or submit a declaration form if we bring more than that in cash.

  • Marie Saqueton

    Not only that, Sessions left his AG deputy (who is also a Hillary supporter) to hire Mueller and he did not not even object knowing who Mueller is…a Hillary pet boy and a great friend of Comey. Mueller also hired 15 of Hillary’s supporters for his legal team. What is that but collusion? Something is very wrong with this picture and if Mueller has any integrity he should resign. This is an insult to the intelligence of the American people for all the world to see. if you like to be insulted and cheated over, and over again, keep voting DEMONCRATS. Not a single elected demoncrat said anything about this investigation being wrong. So, they are servants of their party and not the citizenry….vote them all out.

  • Marie Saqueton

    OBAMA DID THAT NOT SESSIONS. -PRES. TRUMP PUT A STOP TO IT IN HIS FIRST QUARTER.

  • Marie Saqueton

    Amen…get to the REAL criminals not witch hunt.

  • Robert Kuhlmann

    We need to get Trey Gowdy in as FBI Director or Head of DOJ. He won’t pull any punches with anyone and truly “drain the swamp” very quickly.

  • B Roberts

    DWS is going to have her Brother defend Imran Awan and he will have to defend Debbie too. This is sick..I think an attorney should be appointed and not her Faimly..There is enough Corruption already Her Brother don’t need to get them off.YouPlay you pay the Price. Prison

  • Joe Merchant

    Good grief! Why would anybody with any degree of common sense try to flee the country that way? You got money. Go to south Florida and hire a private plane and head south under the radar, so to speak.

  • Mister Vice

    Yeah. Stabbing or shootings are put down in the books as “poisoning”…as in lead poisoning, I guess.

  • Kol

    Cops erupt in cheers as Trump urges officers to use more violence with suspects — by slamming their heads

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/cops-erupt-in-cheers-as-trump-urges-officers-to-use-more-violence-with-suspects-by-slamming-their-heads/

  • Mister Vice

    Is it just me or does Wasserman Schultz have the same face and eyes as a fox terrier? Come to think of it, her mannerisms are just like a terrier too!

    • Kol

      It’s just you that has the same face and eyes as a fox terrier!
      LOLOL!!

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