UNC Governors Say Chancellors Shouldn’t Vote to Boycott Own State

(Paul Chesser, Liberty Headlines) At least four members of the University of North Carolina System’s Board of Governors are calling upon the chancellors of UNC-Chapel Hill and North Carolina State University to oppose further boycotts of the state by the Atlantic Coast Conference because of House Bill 2 (the “transgender bathroom bill”).

UNC Governors Say Votes by Chancellors of UNC, NCSU Should Be Public

Carol Folt and Randy Woodson

And, they added, if the members of the ACC Council of Presidents do vote to keep athletic championships out of the state again for the upcoming academic year, those governors say UNC-CH’s Carol Folt and NC State’s Randy Woodson should demand that the record of their votes on the matter be public, not hidden in secret as they were during their previous vote in September 2016.

If comments by Commissioner John Swofford in January and the bylaws (page 25) of the Atlantic Coast Conference are in force, then the university member presidents and chancellors of the league could vote again this week on whether or not to hold championships in North Carolina for the 2017-2018 academic year.

“They should first object to any sort of boycott or economic sanctions,” said Marty Kotis, a member of the Board of Governors from Greensboro. “Object to any private or secret closed door vote. And refuse to participate if the vote is going to be private. If the vote is public, they should vote no.”

“This isn’t about HB2 or any other issue,” Kotis continued. “It’s a stance against ‘calling in airstrikes on your own position and people.’ And if votes are taken, they should be public and discussed openly. We either believe in transparency or we don’t.”

Kotis’s comments, which answered an emailed inquiry by Liberty Headlines to the entire Board of Governors, were endorsed by fellow members Thom Goolsby (who is a former state Senator), former Judge William Webb, and C. Philip Byers.

The top officials at each member university in the ACC — including Folt and Woodson – voted in secret last September to move all sports championships that had been scheduled in the Tar Heel State, to other states. They blamed their decision on NC lawmakers’ passage of House Bill 2, which overturned a Charlotte ordinance by requiring that users of public restrooms and dressing facilities do so according to the sex they are identified by on their birth certificates. The move by the ACC presidents was designed to punish North Carolina for its allegedly “discriminatory” law.

“As members of the Atlantic Coast Conference, the ACC Council of Presidents reaffirmed our collective commitment to uphold the values of equality, diversity, inclusion and non-discrimination…,” the conference said in a statement at the time. “We believe North Carolina House Bill 2 is inconsistent with these values, and as a result, we will relocate all neutral site championships for the 2016-17 academic year.”

Swofford told the Associated Press in January that the ACC Council of Presidents would not wait again until September – when the school year has already started – to vote on the locations of the 2017-2018 sports championships. ACC bylaws state that the board is to meet twice every year: In September, and during the annual basketball championship held in March, alternating each year between the men’s and women’s title tournament. The women’s tournament for 2017 has already been held and the men’s tournament is this week in New York.

Swofford said the ACC is likely to move its football championship out of Charlotte again this year if HB2 is not repealed or significantly altered.

“If something changes in the state of North Carolina that would be welcome,” Swofford told the AP. “Our presidents made what they believe is a principled decision in that regard as to where our championships should be held and shouldn’t. I don’t see that principle changing.”

In an interview with the ACC Digital Network, Swofford said the league was “doing some homework” ahead of possible removal of championships from North Carolina this upcoming academic year. He said the decision about the 2017-2018 would be made “this spring.”

Fred Hartman, executive director of university relations for NC State, said Woodson was “in New York at the ACC Tournament,” after Liberty Headlines inquired whether a vote would take place this week, and whether it would be in secret. He said all questions about the proceedings of the Council of Presidents should be directed to the ACC.

A similar inquiry to the NC State Board of Trustees yielded the following response from Chairman Jim Owens:

The Board of Trustees delegates the authority of Athletics to the Chancellor. On behalf of the North Carolina State University Board of Trustees, we have full confidence in Chancellor Woodson, including in his role on the ACC Council of Presidents. Any questions about ACC meetings should be directed to Commissioner John Swofford’s office.

Echoing that sentiment, UNC Board of Governors member Joe Knott expressed trust in Woodson’s judgment:

  1. When our institutions have to deal with outside organizations which we do not control, we empower our Chancellors to represent their respective institutions. Put your best person in charge and let them do the job is the principle. Talented individuals usually accomplish more in private negotiations than in the chaos of a town hall atmosphere. To handcuff our Chancellors is to deprive the State of North Carolina the full benefit of their talent and expertise—think Dr. Randy Woodson. I would rather have a highly talented professional doing his best, even if it involves some private negotiations, bargaining and votes, than management by any committee of part-timers I have ever known.
  2. The Chancellors work for the President of the University. They are responsible to her not to us. If the President is unhappy with, or does not trust her Chancellors, it is her responsibility to correct their performance or replace them. For the Board to pass “rules” telling the Chancellors how to conduct negotiations, is not only to undercut the Chancellors’ effectiveness but also to usurp the President’s role.
  3. And finally, to ask our Chancellors to renege on agreements previously made in good faith and relied upon by others is not honorable or reasonable. Would we want anyone leading one of our schools who would do that? I think not. Character still counts at UNC, or it should. I would respectfully submit, that for us to ask our Chancellors to violate their promise ex post facto is something we should not even consider doing.

Kotis disagreed with Knott:

Secret votes to boycott the State or level economic sanctions fall well outside the general delegation/chain of command concept. The boycott topic doesn’t meet the standards for a closed session item. I think your third point is extremely valid – character and honor do matter. Sunshine, transparency and accountability do as well.

It’s hard for me to see honor when it’s hidden in the shadows.

Neither Chancellor Folt nor Chancellor Woodson, nor any member of the UNC-Chapel Hill Board of Trustees, nor ACC Director of External Relations Amy Yakola, responded to similar emailed inquiries by Liberty Headlines.

  • Larry

    It would be better to just shoot everyone in the ACC dead !!!!!

    • TadhgMcLir

      Oh that’s a well reasoned, “sensible” response… Just kill “everyone in the ACC”.

      Brilliant.

      • Larry

        It work for me…. schmuck !

    • nocbsfan

      AAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH

  • jong

    The answer to this is rather simple.

    Mark 8:36
    36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

  • KittyKittyKit

    Any of these folks ever heard of MAJORITY RULE???? A few PUSS-HEADS decide against the VAST MAJORITY of citizens who do NOT want transgenders and homos using any old bathroom they choose. The TRANN-HOMO alliance is less than 10% of the population and 70% are AGAINST their position on allowing little girls to be put in danger from FRAUDS pretending to be females.

    To those who are FOR this SICK LEGISLATION allowing gender neutral bathrooms and showers, may it be YOUR little girls who get molested. I feel bad for your little girls, but I don’t feel bad for YOU and what you have to suffer for your IDIOCY.

    • Claudia Dickerman

      statistics show that “those who claim gender dysphoria are less than 1%” so all the more reason to NOT cater to these mess.

      • Craig Vandertie

        Yes, but TLKoontz does not approve of said statistics, as in a typically blind to the truth Libtard.

    • TLKoontz

      If we’re talking majority rule, then let’s talk about the presidency…

      Btw, where did you get your stats?

      • mikey2046

        Look at the Constitution. We are a democratic republic, not a democracy. The founders deliberately set up the Electoral College to prevent a candidate with a majority of the popular vote becoming President unless he also won the majority of the states. Three out of the last four Presidents were elected with less than a majority of the votes.

        If we were a democracy, the Senate would be superfluous. Ben Franklin said that a democracy was two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.

      • Craig Vandertie

        You mind controlled fool, CA votes do not count when 50% or more of the votes are done by illegals, dead people, and family pets.

        You are in some serious need of psychiatric consultation.

        • no dilliger

          yea but who needs the reality check TL,…after all Kalifornia does give out voter registration apps with DLs ,and passed a law granting DLs to illegal aliens,on passing drivers test ,but the app form is still given out pass or fail ,comes with state IDs too ,plus CA. is so gerrymandered every one failed to notice that on a county by county basis more counties voted trump the ”fly over” spots just didn’t have enough concentrated population like in the urban areas where social welfare is rampant thusly incentivising the vote for dems handing out the free stuff wish i had an obama phone and no daddy and half a dozen or so ,half-siblings ,at least our mama is the same,what is ”socially engineered genetics”…. later gotta go get my guvmint’ cheese

        • SavvyRead

          Craig … Since you reside in a glass house, careful of rocks comin’ at you. Talk about “psychiatric consultation?” You are an imbecile.

          Followup, Craig: who is responsible for the “voters” who need only a driver license; ole JB, of course, that’s why his nickname of thirty years ago was “Moonbeam,” and apply the folly of Brown’s “Bullet Train” over budget and
          not even close to completion, costs going to taxpayers!

          • Craig Vandertie

            They need to create a new designation in the intelligence category for the brain dead like you.

      • Sueja

        You need to study your history. The presidential vote must be by the electoral college or the majority of states would have no representation. Stop your ridiculous chatter. You must be a Californian. And we would all be in the same trouble your state is in if we had to follow your voters.

        • A_Nobody

          He truly does need to wake up or grow up. 4 million illegals voted in Mexifornia because the stooge of a governor intentionally issued driver’s licenses which can be used as ID to vote. The witch actually lost Mexifornia.

          • Craig Vandertie

            Please! be so kind as to define your use of the word intentionally, I hope it is precisely what I have considered to be the CA DL approval policy which is all you have to do is pass the behind the wheel test how many answers you get wrong on the written are irrelevant if you are a Latino illiterate in the English language.

        • KittyKittyKit

          I’ve lived in California for the last 15 years, and this place is a MENTAL NIGHTMARE.

          It’s NOT going to get better, out here, in the near future either. Blubbenor Jerry Brown signed into law, last year, that California students only have to have a “D” Average to get a diploma and graduate from highschool, AND….dig this….the student does NOT have to be fluent in ENGLISH..!!!! That’s pretty much been the policy all along, AND IT REALLY SHOWS. These kids, out here, cannot do “critical thinking”. The have no idea how to reason out the simplest problems, and ASK them ANYTHING about the founding of our nation, and they are totally clueless…………..AND…..and this is a big deal……..you only have to have one of these “D” average diplomas to be hired into the POLICE DEPARTMENT….!!!!! Most of the police officers are NICE GUYS, but even they are not willing to stand to their OATH of Office. It’s really sad
          and I am SO GLAD the ELECTORAL COLLEGE saves America from LOONEY LIBERAL STATES like California.

      • no dilliger

        well i bet your thinking electoral college ,and just throwing in the snide part to help perpetuate the lack of understanding of the E college system which without it…. is like 2 overtly aggressive knife wielding straights and 1 tranny voting on neutering a tranny…. with out the electoral college ….who do think will be singing soprano post ER visit???

    • no dilliger

      i pity the poor tranny who walks out of the ladies room to somebody’s agressivly pissed off daddy who immediately starts dismantling the fellow so his surgical decisions are made for him ,and then think on how many women say their ex-husband or ex-boyfriend molested their child,before separation ,either for revenge or personal gain,a majority of these cases turn out to be without merit ,or out-right lies .in some case it’s discovered the mother actually coached the child on what to say to authorities…,please note however some cases are true ,that said …would you want to be the one leaving the restroom rolled up on by the police only to be charged with sexually abusing children…guilty or not… ,regardless if you think you are in the right and exercising the title lX rights so erroneouslly bequeathed to you by an expiring administration,and as you sit in holding ,and listen to the cat-calls from the other prisoners ,who already know what you are in for (no secrets inside)yelling what they are going to do to the baby banger ….take heed is useing the ladies room really the political hill you want to die on

      • Craig Vandertie

        Fact that women in general are far more malicious than men.

        Not going to change my thinking on prior stated belief, so do not waste my time by attempting to do so, prove my point by getting malignant with me and I will respond the same way I respond to all spiteful retorts, “I will block you.”

  • richjack4

    Wonder how many member ACC universities allow males to shower in female lockers?

  • Dave Williams

    I, as a tax payer of these State supported universities, whole heartedly Support Board of Governor member Marty Kotis in his views which he so eloquently stated. . Our state needs the revenue and I don’t expect anyone who is representing a NC Institution to cut their own throats playing politics. .All members of the ACC would be wise to keep all politics out of athletics. Mr John Swofford would be well advised to heed this warning as well. . I don’t want a Commissioner of the ACC who puts Politics before Good sportsmanship, good Competition, and the well being of our student Athletes. . Every one of the individuals mentioned above needs to realize that they serve at the leisure of someone else. . Dave Williams

  • Liberty

    So, it was the UNC Board of Trustees that voted to move all ACC tournaments out of North Carolina?

  • TLKoontz

    The Chancellors shouldn’t vote “in secret ” on issues created by the passage of a ridiculous, un-needed law drawn up in secret and shoved through the legislature at breakneck speed (to avoid any–inevitable–opposition)? That kind of secrecy??

  • Ovomit1

    …shine a light on the cockroaches voting against the will of the majority- and watch those lib reprobates scatter

  • no dilliger

    golly gee whiz my grand daughter can hardly wait to have a 300 lb tranny taking a dump in the little girls room in chuckie cheese,oh frigging goody-goody….what next …you have a nice looking family ,i feel like a family member …i’m moving in ….oh yeah a a new gender the family member gender or i feel like a dog today i’m gonna hump your leg …wha…what… i feel like a dog title lX says i can identify with what ever i want…… ok great go fetch the stick on the freeway dogboy go hump a pitbull

  • teachersaide

    HEY, if those wing nuts are so PROUD of their “progressivism”, Their VOTES should be PUBLIC!

    • Sueja

      Agree

  • Sueja

    I am outraged by the fact that the people of North Carolina are being completely overlooked. They expressed their desire in a vote. Now these fools want to try to influence voters. Isn’t that illegal? Why do they think they have a right to override the will of the people ? If they move these games again I for one will boycott the ACC games on t.v. and will plan my yearly vacations elsewhere where the people are free to have their votes counted.

    • Craig Vandertie

      Stanford having the esteemed label of Ivy League, ROFLMAO, Ivy League colleges should not have students that do not meet the academic standards of other Ivy League colleges which Stanford most certainly does not.

      My point is proven by the fact that they are members of the PAC 10 and as far as football is concerned have students that are athletically adept enough to not only make it into, but win the Rose Bowl game as well.

  • Kenny Albert

    Keep all of the trannies and queers out of N.C.

  • therealworld

    When the University loses enough money not hosting games they will change their tune. MONEY holds more weight than GAY

  • ChuckW

    It is really discouraging, but also an indication of the depth of how far “off the rails” of the Constitution, the public mindset has plummeted in the past 50+ years. By that I mean an improper focus on a non-constitutional principle (discrimination, not a word in the Constitution) to the gradual destruction of a Constitutional principle – Liberty. Because our republic was based on the fact that Liberty is a gift of God (not government), it was declared an unalienable right, meaning government has no authority to deny Liberty. Yet, that is precisely what illegitimate “non-discrimination” laws do. They “protect” a specified group while denying all non-members their Liberty to make decisions in reference to the “protected” group. Government has absolutely no authority to prohibit “individual” discrimination; that is anti-Liberty. It has authority to address ONLY “societal” discrimination, because only societal discrimination denies Individual Liberty. Societal discrimination was the reality, e.g., of Black People prior to the 1964 Civil Rights Law which rightfully gave them the Individual Liberty they had been denied via segregation laws. The Constitutional frame of reference is Liberty, not discrimination. HB2 rightfully preserved the Individual Liberty of businesses to make their own decision, which the Charlotte ordinance unconstitutionally denied. For the decision makers for college sports to oppose HB2 is to take an anti-Liberty stance. Their thinking needs to get aligned with our Constitution rather than non-constitutional principles such as discrimination. Liberty is our right as individuals (persons and entities such as a business) TO discriminate. Our educators are displaying a gross ignorance of our Constitution.

  • Craig Vandertie

    Attn. all cognizant true Patriots, do yourself a major favor and block that brain dead SavvyRead who has zero comprehension of any facts.

  • Craig Vandertie

    Of course not, those Deep State deeply intranced Loonie Libtards are hypocrites as well.

  • Craig Vandertie

    Alright, where did my post about that brain dead SavvyRead go?, all cognizant true Patriots do yourself a major and block that less than worthless individual, curious as to whether or not this post will vanish into oblivion as well?

  • Craig Vandertie

    Wow!, did not think it was possible for that many new separate posts to be posted in that brief of a time period.

    Found my post about “CompletelyBrainDead”SavvyRead, let me bump it back back up to the top.

    Attn. all cognizant true Patriots, do yourself a major favor and block that brain dead SavvyRead who has zero comprehension of any facts.

  • Craig Vandertie

    Yes, I get very upset when less than worthless brain dead individuals like SavvyRead have the audacity to call me an imbecile.