Trump to Target Food Stamps with Retail Fee

(Zero Hedge) Trump’s proposal to overhaul the U.S. food stamp program, or the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) as it’s currently known, has brought with it a widely overlooked fee that could end up costing food retailers billions.  Per MSN:

Trump to Target Food Stamps with Retail Fee

That provision is a new fee that the White House wants to charge retailers that accept food stamps, which is now known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.

The Office of Management and Budget said the fee would be assessed when stores sign up and would require renewal after five years. The budget office said the amount would depend on the size and type of retailer, but the president’s budget estimates that the fee would generate $2.4 billion in revenue over the next decade.

An OMB official described the fee as “modest” and “reasonable,” emphasizing that some large retailers redeem a billion dollars or more in food stamp benefits each year.

“Although a small number of stores may choose to leave the program rather than pay the fee, we do not expect that this will affect access to authorized stores,” the official said.

Of course, the fee is likely intended to cut down on the wildly unmanageable 260,000 different retailers that opt into the program each year.  That said, the biggest financial impact will accrue to traditional grocery stores, dollar stores and supercenters (aka Walmart) which collectively account for well over 80% of the $66BN in annual SNAP benefits…

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  • Mort Leith

    We SHOULD start Work Farms where anyone collecting must work on the farm for 20 hrs/week and then build small stores that ONLY sell Food Stamp approved food,, from the farm ! !

    • greg

      Maybe 20 hrs a month, both sides wouldn’t agree to that, but something would be nice, nothing should be free. Maine went to 20 hrs a month and if you didn’t show up for community service, you didn’t get them.
      80% did NOT show, 80%, that’s huge, and for Maine, they hit the lottery when that 80% did a not show. Maine saved millions. But that was a Republican Governor, who knows when the switch happen to a Democrat Governor

  • Roger Van

    I truly believe there are some people who really need the food stamps, as I had to use them one time when I had no income after being seriously sick, and some people in my community talked me into getting it. But I have seen many abuses of the system and many people feel they are owed it. Many have been getting food stamps for all their lives, they don’t want to work for a living since they grew up with the “hand-me outs” by our government. Women who have several kids from several different men and refuse to tell officials who the fathers are, should be cut off of receiving free everything, make them work for once, I will pay for the child care while mom works. I’m in favor of stopping all hand-outs for those not willing to work a little. No Excuses!

    • erleebird

      Wonderful post! A voice in the wilderness! Where there is a legitimate need, many people have a crisis in their lives at one time or another. That’s a given! With the ability to work, once the bad times are over, one gains self-respect and instills it in their children!

      • dallasyvonneauldridge

        Not all. That truly is the minority. In CALIF. there are numerous generous on ALL the social rolls. It’s a way of life. The state attempted to force them into education and work programs. But the liberal idiots labeled it biased racial bigots doing it. Then we have the bloody communist Jerry Brown elected by the jollywood elite maggots.

        • erleebird

          You said a mouthful! It is frightening how undeserving people feel so justified in taking what is not theirs and having it perpetrated by Jerry Brown. I understand he’s in China now trying to negotiate an agreement (lwhen did our states become un-united?)

        • AKLady

          There has been a six-year, life-time limit on assistance since Clinton was in office. Congress set aside that limit temporarily during the Obama Administration due to the severe economic conditions that has developed during the Bush Administration. The number of American families living in shelters, in cars and on the street is huge. Every foreign made item you buy guarantees that problem will notonly continue, but probably get much worse.

      • AKLady

        Suggest you volunteer at a shelter foe abused women.

      • Bill Boltz

        There are people on disability who need SNAP. Are you saying they should work as well?

    • Terry Maloney

      Roger, I am with you that there are many people that need this program. Where need to put the attention is the ones that can work but do not. And the immigrants that are new and have 3-4 families that are not learning the language. They could at least go to school or take care of children so other mothers could go to school. I am retired and recently offered to teach someone that is a dependent of a citizen to learn English so she could get a Better paying job, but she was not interested. Her kids were in school! These are the people we don’t need!

      • NorthtoSouth

        Anyone that’s wants to move to Ireland, must have at least one hundred thousand dollars a year coming in. And I think they are raising that. Mexico you must learn the language and be able to reasonably write it. That is a must. Every country is harder to get citizenship in them. I for one am tired of all the giveaways with no commitment to better themselves without assistance or better our country with their presence.

        • dallasyvonneauldridge

          Amen

      • dallasyvonneauldridge

        As an RN I have worked with the self-entitled legals and non-legals who yell about their rights of entitlement. They don’t want a job nor do they want an education. I say come legally have enough money to support yourself and family for five years or stay in your own country. They don’t want to work there either. But their government won’t support them.

        • erleebird

          Perhaps we should take in people who have a trade/profession. When my grandparents came here from Italy, they had to have a sponsor and a certain amount of money to hold them. The key word we must never forget is, this is a land of OPPORTUNITY! If one does not take advantage of opportunity, they are not welcome here! For every dollar given away, a working person must pay for them! Some have no values!

        • sandraleesmith46

          If they come here to NOT work; they’d better be able to support themselves forever!

    • Roger I totally agree, I am in California and people will stand out side of grocery stores waiting for someone they know. Purchase someone’s food and they will give them money, maybe 75 or 80 percent of what they spent on food stamps. Had a guy and a lady over 40 she was over 50 that did that and they did not have kids unless you count their dogs. Not good on paying rent – yep that kind. When I got them out I had to through away maybe 600 or 800 pounds of food as they went to every church around and pantries getting food. They always thought they were being abused by the system as they did not get enough I guess. The system needs more controls, the people that control it do not care and will not act of what they are told is going on. Of course I am in California but assume it goes on in other states also.

      • erleebird

        I’m in a bleeding heart democrat run state of CT. We are taxed up the gazoo while we work. People on the dole sometimes make more money not working, than if they worked! There’s something wrong with this picture!

        • I believe that, I make 16 an hour after fed / state tax in CA and filed income tax returns or payment I come out between 8 and 9 dollars an hour. Lucky the company I work for pays for half of my medical. Federal reports are that welfare person make average of 16 an hour and do not think they pay tax but could be wrong.

    • Louie Rey

      I can truly understand your position. At one time way back when I found myself in need of government assistance but I hated it. I always wanted to try and make something of myself (my wife thinks I made a jerk of myself but that’s a completely different story!) so I was uncomfortable accepting federal money. I accomplished things in my life that have put me on the other end of the equation. Now it’s MY tax dollars propping up indigent citizens. However, like yourself, you persevered and you became who you are and you should be congratulated for that. Now, if we can only get those that are not so much in need to get their butts to work that would be a good thing, not only for themselves but for the American taxpayer as well.

      • NorthtoSouth

        Do you remember when Nancy Pelosi told people they should be able to follow their dream of being an artist, musician ect without worry. Another Democrat pushing freebies.

        • Louie Rey

          I try not to think about Nancy Pelosi. Why would I think about a woman who’s had so many face lifts that eats through her navel. Ms. Plastic Face has been awarded the Lifetime Achievement Award from Monsanto.

          • erleebird

            I can’t stand Nancy Pelosi – she is in the same category as Hillary and Liz from Massachusetts! She actually looks into your eyes as she lies her way through and conjures up warped tales of the “horrible” people who do not see things her way. (Don’t laugh, but did she really get that award from Monsanto, or are you using a little levity?)

          • Louie Rey

            I must plead levity. However, as soon as she said, “We have to pass it into law before we can find out what’s in it.” she, and anyone else who took that same stand, should have been shown the door. How in God’s name can you possibly think that you should know what a law consists of AFTER enacting it. Are you &&#$^$%#$ kidding me?

          • erleebird

            I concur! If I had two daughters instead of two sons, I would keep them away from this fraud who claims to be a role model! She is a disgrace to intelligent women!

          • Louie Rey

            She’s a disgrace to humankind, regardless of gender.

    • gman

      I don’t believe in free handouts, because in Wisconsin, when my mother had nothing, lost her house, and only had a small piece of land in her name, was refused food stamps because she owned property.
      i had to get her and apartment, and pay all her bills and food for a year, until she was able to find work.
      That experience made me lose faith in the government systems, it sickens me to see people drive Cadillac’s and use food stamps and other forms of social services programs

      • disqus_A1IVSzeN8P

        What makes you think that the tax payer should support your mother when she still had land assets she could sell for cash to support herself? Welfare programs should be a last resort not something that delays the sale of assets that could be used to support yourself.

        • cr0ak

          A person who has paid into the system (federal income tax) shouldn’t have to be reduced to penury before being able to get assistance. Wasn’t it enough that the mother lost her house? Why should she have had to sell a small piece of land?

          It’s the people who have contributed absolutely nothing to the system and yet have been sucking off the government’s teat for years who should be cut off. And I’m not talking about people who can’t work due to medical/physical problems. I’m talking about people who just sit on their a$$e$ and keep producing more little leeches every year. It has to stop!

          • disqus_A1IVSzeN8P

            So are you saying it is OK for the mother to be a little leech on the tax payers dime? She and the other leeches you describe should not receive government benefits until there own resources have been fully depleted. Work requirements should be reinstated immediately on the federal and state level for able working people. If I remember correctly, Alabama has cut payouts to the SNAP program by 85% for able working age recipients when they recently reinstated work requirements.

          • cr0ak

            If the mother has paid into the system (via Federal Income Tax), how can you call her a leech? She worked, paid money into the system. Shouldn’t she be allowed to benefit from her own money being paid to the government? Why should she have to give up everything in order to be able to get back some of the money she paid?

            And, from the sound of it, it wasn’t like she was going to be “leeching” off the system forever. She eventually found work. And, in so doing, was able to once again contribute.

            These are the people the government should be helping! I know there are a lot of families out there who are working and trying to make ends meet but just can’t. They want to be independent. The sad thing is that a lot of them make just a little too much money to qualify for assistance.

            Why are we penalizing these people but rewarding those who won’t lift a finger to help themselves and are mooching off the taxpayers? It just isn’t right.

          • disqus_A1IVSzeN8P

            Quit wearing your heart on your sleeve. Where do you get the impression that I think it is OK for illegals to get government benefits? I also hate to tell you that we don’t pay any taxes to the government that are to be paid back to us as an individual. Even social security taxes we pay are not invested or kept in our names. So I am not sure where the idea that she paid taxes so she is entitled to get everything back she paid in. It does not work that way. Just because I don’t agree how we are taxed and how the money is use, I as an individual with one vote have little power to change anything on my own. Life can be a bit*h and then you die. Life is not fair.

          • cr0ak

            I never said (nor did I imply) that you think it’s OK for illegals to get government benefits. You inferred that.

            No, we don’t pay taxes that are to be paid back as individuals. However, we do contribute (forcibly, of course) to the general fund. But, again, you inferred that I think she’s entitled to get everything back that she paid in.

            I’m not wearing my heart on my sleeve. There’s a word you should learn. It’s called compassion. And it’s something I have for a woman who needed a little bit of help until she could get back on her feet. Someone who had helped others (by paying taxes), yet someone who wasn’t able to even get a bite nibble of that government pie when she needed it.

            I have no compassion for the leeches who consistently expect others to always pay for them. And I can’t wait for the day that the trough they’re feeding from (like gluttons) is finally empty because tax payers have said “No more handouts if you’re not willing to lift a finger to help yourself”. Those funds should be strictly for people who’ve paid in – and are in need of a temporary hand-up. (NOT a hand-out).

            Now… Those are my last words on this subject. I have more important things to do than to sit here and try to reason with you. I wish you a happy life.

          • Mountain_Dew_518

            I agree!

          • dallasyvonneauldridge

            Nothing like kicking a person when they are down huh.

          • gman

            I resent your calling my mother a leech, she is currently 81 and still working, and paying taxes and social security.

          • Mountain_Dew_518

            Your mom sounds like an angel. It is amazing that she continues to work at her age. If she is happy let her continue as long as possible if she really wants too but if she should be able to retired with the help that she needs. After all she deserves it. You sure do not see that or hear of that around here. Many blessing to you and your mom!

          • gman

            I hope and pray that never happens to your family, Would you call them leeches

          • Mountain_Dew_518

            True about Alabama.

        • dallasyvonneauldridge

          So an American down on their luck should have to forfeit everything they own to get some help for awhile. Yet illegals can have welfare in two days. Old old sick people come here and as long as they reach their Point of Destinations. In thirty days can be on SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE. While those of who have worked and contributed to the plan are made to be greedy pigs and looking for handouts. Is that what you are saying?

          • erleebird

            You have made a good point here! Many times illegals have more benefits than those of us who pay into the system. As an American, I hate being taken advantage of!

      • erleebird

        Unfortunately, the government shows no compassion, even when you follow the rules and work hard!

        • gman

          RIGHT ON.
          My mother is now 81 and still working. And paying taxes, and social security

          • disqus_A1IVSzeN8P

            What I have to wonder, did her sons and daughters provide financial support when she was not legally entitled to government benefits? I contribute to my 92 year old mother-in-laws living expenses because she does not qualify for enough government supplied benefits to make ends meet. She owns a 30 year old double wide trailer outright but does not want to sell it or move into a government funded retirement center which requires the sale of the trailer. She also worked her whole life and paid taxes as well. The US is full of people in the same situation. There is not enough money in the world to support people from cradle to grave and support them in a lifestyle they or their families would like to see them living in.

    • dallasyvonneauldridge

      Me too

    • Danni Smith

      I agree a girl, amanda heniff of Carbondale, actually irresponsible woman, has had 2 kids, unmarried with mike Sullivan and collects all of it-welfare, food stamps, medical benefits for childbirth, child care, while lying to the welfare people that the father does not live with them or else that the household income is not enough to sustain them. Of course, she fails to mention the household income does not include that of sullivan who is gainfully employed at a Toyota plant in Carbondale Illinois. These two just bought a single family home in Carbondale, March 2017, in joint tenancy. So how does an unmarried “struggling” mother with two illegit kids buy a $180,000 house. Just asking. She should be in jail for fraud and I should not have to be responsible for the care and feeding of her two “fatherless’ children. This is a white, college educated criminal who couldn’t, wouldn’t and won’t keep her legs crossed.

    • Yarbles

      Agreed. Drug testing and educational/work requirements after reasonable time MUST also be instituted. Why work when food and housing is free?

      The SNAP program MUST NOT continue to be used to supplement incomes of people working in low skill minimum wage jobs at Walmart, McDonald’s, etc. These jobs are not intended as careers being professional burger flippers or merchandise stackers, just paths to careers. Needed help in a Walmart lately?

      Of course the reason Shitbama “improved” and approved these benefits at record levels is his affiliation with the Globalists. Just look what they did for Venezuela. Same kind of progression.

    • Janet

      I have no problem with someone needing food stamps when faced with a situation like unemployment, illness or other things we have no control over. That’s reasonable! You pay taxes for years and when a hardship happens sometimes we all need a little help. It’s the people that abuse it or come into the country illegally and use the social programs that are meant or should be for citizens of this country. Great post Roger!

    • AKLady

      You have been taken in by many lies.
      It is a real shame, as you seem like a reasonable person.

      Maybe you should encourage Medicaid coverage for birth control.
      While the medicine may not be all that expensive, the physicians visits are, as are the pap smears and laboratory tests. When they are done for the purpose of prescribing birth control, those services are not covered by Medicaid or Medicare.

      May I suggest that you volunteer at an abused woman’s shelter.
      Doing so might permit you to have better understanding of what life in poverty is like.

    • max3d2

      WELL SAID!

      • AKLady

        Except neither you, nor he, understand the consequences those women would face if they named the father.
        For some it would be a death sentence.
        For others, physical disability from the beating.

    • Bill Boltz

      Child-care will cost more than SNAP.

  • Patriot47

    Food retailers pay no costs, their customers do.

    • Dutch

      That’s true, but if these stores raise their prices to overcome government charges, guess what, people will go to stores that don’t accept the stamps.and the price increasers lose business (as it should be).

  • richard black

    its easy…food stamp store !!!

  • Louie Rey

    This is all well and good but I’d much prefer a program that would, you know, GET PEOPLE OFF FOOD STAMPS! There should be a time limit put on these entitlement programs to generate an incentive to actually work and earn your keep as opposed to sitting around waiting for federal government handouts. Novel idea, no?

    • Tasine

      Y,es, like 1-2 states have begun to do: to qualify for food stamps the recipient MUST find some sort of job. I have no doubt that truly disabled people do not have to meet this criteria, but there are all types of jobs that people do that does not require standing, walking, etc.

      • Louie Rey

        That’s a good start. I don’t know which states they are but if I had to venture a guess I’d say that they’re predominantly red states.

        • Mountain_Dew_518

          Alabama is a red state and they are now required to work.

          • Louie Rey

            Now, if we could only get some of the blue states to wake the #&%$ up we’d all be better off.

          • Mountain_Dew_518

            YES! We got to try and wake them up but then it will be amost impossible unless they vote out the ones in those blue states and put true conservatives in their place. Got to try with all our might though.

          • Louie Rey

            You know what would be perfect and the height of irony? California is the only blue state along the southern border. What the federal government can do is threaten to cut off these entitlement checks unless THEY help build the wall. I think that would make the heads of Pelosi, Feinstein, Waters, Boxer and, of course, Jerry Brown just explode

          • Mountain_Dew_518

            I love your idea!!! Just thinking of Pelosi, Waters, and the rest of the DemonRats heads exploding along with those that don’t want to give up their entitlements can be something to watch. Get the popcorn and sodas ready for the action if that happens. I can just picture it in my head as I am typing this.

          • Louie Rey

            You’re going to need one more thing besides the popcorn and soda. How about a hazmat suit. You don’t want any of THEIR gray matter splattering on you.

          • Mountain_Dew_518

            Hazmat suit is a definitely needed. Whoo!! Thanks for the reminder sure don’t want to forget that.

      • NorthtoSouth

        Even volunteering would help, but few people do not want to volunteer either. I was in a grocery line being a man holding beer and junk food telling me he didn’t care what the government did as long as he got his. I doubt he ever voted or even knew what was going on in the world, as long as his world was not interfeared with. But if he did vote you can count on it, the Democrats got it. Freebies all the way.

        • Tasine

          Yep, there are people who believe they are entitled to everything free they can get their hands on, but one can blame ONE ENTITY for that: the US GOVERNMENT is to blame for trying to buy votes via legislation. And it is ridiculous. I don’t know a single person who does not want a helpless person have a place to live and food to eat, but “unable” vs “lazy” are definitely two separate and opposing things. I want all those who CAN work to get jobs.

          I am 78 and I volunteer my time and capabilities frequently…no pay, but accomplishments achieved – and it is a GOOD FEELING. People who do not ever volunteer have no clue what they are missing out on. That said, I know dozens of people who volunteer to make schools better, to help out churches, who tutor slow learners, to grow their communities, etc. Most of those people also have jobs that take up most of their time.

          America is going to the dogs, though, no matter what WE do. Our government has been doing its best to bankrupt the nation, both financiallh and socially……I believe it has succeeded in both areas.

  • Myke Britt

    We need to go back to surplus food first that is available and supplement that with limited items food stamps can be used for drop the EBT cards and return to paper stamps. NO MORE “CASH BACK” TO BUY BEER, LOTTERY TICKETS AND PIZZA WITH!!

    • NorthtoSouth

      Agree with everything but the pizza. I have never had to depend on gov. assistance myself, but as a child in West Virginia my parents got commodities as they were called at that time. But only for a short time. Pizza is actually pretty balanced for a diet. You have bread, vegatables, cheese and usually meat.

      • Mountain_Dew_518

        And powdered milk.

  • Tasine

    Good for Donald Trump!!! This should have happened years ago since GOVERNment would never use good sense and only give food stamps to truly needy people who had no other way of nourishment.

  • Mark V

    The applications for food stamps by single people in Maine decreased by 2/3 when looking for work was added to the list of qualifications.

  • Cecilia Robarge

    Charge retailers 50% and get some of our had-earned money back and build the wall with it!!!!!!

  • amitorelocato

    Hand outs for generations who do not have character or pride and believe it’s their right, from gov. to support them from cradle to grave.

  • steven jacobs

    I am somewhat disappointed-I expected the President to get the budget under control by SHRINKING GOVERNMENT-not by RAISING TAXES!

  • Bob Cherry

    What most right wingers overlook in their hatred for poor and non-whites, are the large mega corporation that also depend on food stamps. Walmart 25% of food sales, Monsanto and other agribusiness giants, food processors, Chicago commodities trading.

    • NorthtoSouth

      Right wingers hate poor? Most of the independent help to the poor come from conservates. The churches and food pantry are generally run by conservates.

      • Bob Cherry

        I doubt it, most would rather torch the food, rather than see a non-white with it.

        • mikey2046

          Yeah! Conservatives also want dirty air, dirty water, and no health care for anyone except them and their rich friends, who all live in bubble-domed cities with private sources of clean air and water, and free health care. (sarc) Bob, you obviously don’t know any real conservatives, or you would know better than to make such asinine, ill-informed comments..

  • karmicpete

    I’ve observed purchases of cigarettes and lottery tickets with EBT cards. Last week a store owner tried to tell a wobbly woman that she could not use EBT to buy lottery tickets. She pleaded and he relented, seemingly to get her to leave but likely also to keep her as a customer for cigarettes.
    A southern state has instituted a work requirement to continue eligibility for food stamps and enrollment has fallen by 85%.
    This program has grown dramatically and continues to do so with record low levels of unemployment. All those not on the program are paying for others who largely have made poor life choices. This creates perverse incentives to continue irresponsible behavior.

  • Gail Ferraiolo

    Roger you are right on I receive them because my rent is high and I am low income under HUD subsidized housing also! Because I have a live in buddy that we were Togeather almost 20 years! But you are right on I don’t abuse the blessing this is the first time I ever had them! I worked 26 years and put into social security but if I retire then I get more and my rent increases so I’m very satisfied!!

  • Better would be to limit what these card could buy. They should be limited to basic staples within a small group of food found with in the dietary pyramid. Example: Cards could not by tobacco, alcohol, non staple items [like desserts, Ice Cream, …] or luxury items [like lobster, caviar, ..]. Like wise it should not be accepted for non necessity use [no dinning restaurants, fast foods and entertainment.] You have the idea. It irks when I hear individuals going to a opera that I can’t afford by the use of snap cards.

    • Mountain_Dew_518

      You could not have said it any better. I agree 1000++++%,

  • Gail Ferraiolo

    A lot of those on SNAP I have noticed in the supermarket where we live they buy plenty of lottery tickets and numbers goes to the store 3 to 4 times a day! Rediculus!! These are the ones who don’t need food stamps and they still smoke as well! Discusting!!

    • Mountain_Dew_518

      Thank the good Lord we don’t have a lottery here but a lot of people do go across state lines to get lottery tickets and go to the casinos. I don’t understand how they can afford that stuff but cannot afford food. They need to get their priorities straightened out of if caught ban them from the snap program.

  • Joe Samo

    Hotdogs and hamburgers…no more steaks and lobster…

    • omikehawk

      Let em eat cake!

    • Mountain_Dew_518

      Let them make their own hotdogs and hamburgers. It will go further and cost less. I agree no more steaks and lobster or junk foods.

      • Joe Samo

        I can not understand why they are allowed to buy prepared foods at a much greater cost than the raw ingredients to make the same food. Why are they allowed to buy junk food…chips and soda…really. I can afford that stuff but I don’t buy it because it is too expensive, and some are bad for you.
        I can always tell when a shopper is on my tax dime…some are over at the avocado bin, when they are not on sale, squeezing avocados, and filling a bag with them. I only buy them on sale. Then I stand behind them in the checkout line. Me with my on sale items and chicken. Them with a buggy full of expensive items.
        Those people living on my tax dime need to get a grip on reality…thanks to our president maybe just maybe they will.

        • Mountain_Dew_518

          That is exactly why they need to go back to commodities like they used to. Some are just too lazy to cook or work. Yet they eat better than most of the working class. If they would go back to giving the commodities they would see a lot of them not going to get them and that would save a lot of $$ and get those that really don’t need them off that role because they won’t have any of it.
          ___________________
          I also buy on sale items and cook my own food. I really enjoy cooking and I am very conservative. Not on sale me no buy.
          ______________________________
          There is so much waste of food in America and to think people would rather throw away good food instead of donating that food to food pantry or giving to someone in need or giving to the homeless shelter.
          _______________

  • Estell Newton

    Some states require the father’s name in order to get help of any kind. This is so they can go after child support and collect part of the money back from the fathers. There should also be a limit as to how many children can be claimed by welfare mothers. One should be all they are allowed and then they should be required to go to work.

  • sandraleesmith46

    And naturally, that extra cost will be passed along to the CUSTOMERS who pay for their groceries! So it means WE get screwed yet again for the SNAP people!

    • nocbsfan

      I thought you might be somewhere, solving the woes of the world. I don’t know to much about that stuff, so its hard to take sides. If sides need to be taken. There is always extenuating circumstances. People who didn’t get a chance to be educated and have to go where labor is needed. They shouldn’t have had kids but sometimes this happens.so we have to deal with it. In today’s world it is awfully hard to travel with wife and kids no transportation and no money. Should we give into them ? There are cities that allow panhandling, Guess that is better than snap, fact is some of them do pretty good. Thanks Sandy, for letting me put my two cents in 🙂

      • sandraleesmith46

        We’re already paying for SNAP through taxes; adding this cost on means we pay DOUBLE. How is that right? In this nation, people have more opportunities than nearly anywhere else in the world; that they fail to grasp that and/or take advantage of those opportunities is on them. That they have kids, frequently outside marriage, is also on them, if they can’t afford to support those kids to start with. BC is cheap, even free (no I don’t mean the pills; learn to say NO and don’t engage in behaviors that lead to pregnancy). People can fall on hard times due to economic conditions, yes, and that’s what the help is for; but there are families multiple generations long LIVING on welfare/SNAP/Medicaid: again, how is that right? They make no effort to better themselves and get off. Requiring work of some sort or to be in a training program to get work isn’t unreasonable and even if that work is “volunteer” work that benefits the community in some way, that’s better than just handing it out: better for them as well.

        • nocbsfan

          LOL Well I wanted to get your attention, I guess I did, but I did’t know you were going come out swinging. Sorry Baby I was just wondering where you were Looks like I found you. Hi Sandy !

          • sandraleesmith46

            Yep, you found me, alive and kicking. This is a thing I think has been wrong all along, not only for the taxpayers footing the bill, but for the people living on it as well. I remember when I was maybe 11 or 12, one of the Mayors in NYC trying to institute a “work for welfare” ruling, for the able bodied; he lasted maybe 3 days before he caved to the riots. I got then how wrong it was. What he wanted wasn’t outrageous, any more than such reforms tried now are. But adding to the burden of the ones already footing that bill is just wrong, and that’s ultimately who will be hit by it. People need to work and be/feel USEFUL: welfare robs them of that, makes them lazy and greedy; and hurts them as much as the people being robbed to support them. That’s my 2 cents; Hi Ken.

          • nocbsfan

            Then I take it you don’t like the retail fee ?

          • sandraleesmith46

            No, I don’t. EVERYTHING that costs a company more gets passed on to the consumers, and that’s the same taxpayers who are already paying for the program to start with. There has to be some other way, that doesn’t add more to the current burden on said taxpayers.

          • nocbsfan

            Could there be a part of the law which would prohibit adding to the prices of everything else ?

          • sandraleesmith46

            It’d be nice, but that’s not usually how economics works and I doubt it’d keep them from finding a way to defray it to consumers.

          • nocbsfan

            If it was the law, but no way to enforce it, what the heck lets just don’t do snap

          • sandraleesmith46

            ME and GA have healthier plans; they require 20 hrs/wk of work, work training, or volunteerism of all able-bodied adults without children to qualify for SNAP; and the percentages on SNAP in the affected counties have dropped dramatically.

          • nocbsfan

            Think I have already answered this :-)☺

          • sandraleesmith46

            Yes, in another place; that was more for the ones not in that place.

          • nocbsfan

            I can live with that.:-)

          • sandraleesmith46

            Good.

          • nocbsfan

            We are going to work on that

          • sandraleesmith46

            Only if we can find a way to keep them from hiding it somehow in price increases.

          • nocbsfan

            Wow we are going to be busy visiting all these stores to make sure they don’t change prices

          • sandraleesmith46

            And that’s just it; there is no way to protect consumers from such a tax increase to corporations.

          • Mountain_Dew_518

            I say go back to commodities. I remember back when there were no food stamps. They gave out commodities; cheese, butter, flour, canned pork, etc. People would only want the 5 lb. block of cheese but they would give the butter, powdered milk and the other stuff away to someone in the long line that may have wanted the extra. I know as I used to volunteer to help distribute that stuff. People like that didn’t need it anyway or wasn’t truly hungry if that was all they wanted I felt like and very few people would take it from them when they offered it to them. When they started giving out food stamps for them to buy what they wanted there was such an increase in people getting that.

          • Mountain_Dew_518

            When they use food stamps they are not taxed. Why can’t they tax them like they do me when I buy groceries with cash or check? Stop them from buying JUNK food and sodas with them. Stop them from using the at fast food places. They get the benefit of the food stamps then let them pony up for the taxes.
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            There are so many own the system that can work but refuse to work for some lame excuse or another Although I know there are some that cannot work due to sickness or elderly in poor healh that just truly cannot work and some of those are the ones that truly do use the foodstamps sparingly because they don’t draw enough to even buy the medicines they need. I don’t mind helping someone that is truly in need but I will go buy some groceries for them that is healthy but will not give them $$.

          • sandraleesmith46

            Taxing the food stamps would be taxing the taxpayers double on them. However, there used to be rules that they couldn’t be used except for certain types of FOODS, not junk food and only in grocery stores/mini marts but for things like tuna fish, mayo, milk. and the like in such marts. This business of allowing them anywhere needs to stop and junk food especially needs to stop! Most seniors/ vets/ disabled are LUCKY If they get $10/mo for assistance, while the illegals, and “refugees” get sometimes as much as $200/mo. For the seniors who need assistance, that piddling amount isn’t worth the hoops and hassles they have to jump through to get them. And the FRAUD is staggering!

  • Bob

    Hopefully those who have food stamps voted for Chump. Now they’ll be repaid for their stupidity.

  • Bonnie Bouton Dinbokowitz

    I hope it stops fast food restaurants from accepting food stamps, as that food is not nutritious and is expensive.

    • nocbsfan

      Do you care if they have fries with that ? 🙂

    • Cat Woman

      I have always been under the impression that “ready to eat” food (McDonalds, anyone?) can NOT be purchased with food stamps. Am I wrong?

      • Mountain_Dew_518

        Yes you are wrong as I know a couple of families here that get food stamps and instead of buying food they all go out to Burger King and use the EBT cards or Hardee’s quite often. It does make me mad that they can do that as expensive as it is for a family of 5 to eat out like that with hamburger, FF, soda, and sometimes they get an Apple Pie with that. They eat out more than they cook at home that is if they ever do cook at home. That is so sad that the kiddies aren’t getting the nutrition they really need.

  • rick meek

    Yeah – especially when THEY sell these stores the food stamps for cash……

  • rick meek

    Bring them here – put’em on welfare and food stamps – let taxpayers earn a living for them…..

  • Kathryn Jordan

    I believe that there are some people who really need food stamps, as I needed them at one time when I little income after losing my job for medical reasons. I have seen the abuses of the system with people who really don’t need them. Even if you can work only 20 hours, I can understand the food stamps. I am not in favor of hand outs.

  • H.J

    The thing I was thinking about the article is that if the grocery stores are charged a fee for food stamp users, the store will likely raise prices. and all of us will get to pay even more for our food. While I understand the position, I’m not crazy about paying more for groceries.

    • JWB

      bingo

  • H.J

    To add to my comment – I doubt that any store is going to take a hit on profits – they will pass on the cost to all of us.

    • JWB

      BINGO!

  • JWB

    Like many of the government programs, with great intentions, they are ripe for abuse and there are plenty of “scoundrels” out there that are abusing the generosity of the taxpayers . We’ve all got a “check out line” story, you are paying for your beans and rice and the “snap” costumer, paying with the government card, has the top cut tenderloin. Stricter “screening” for recipients is long overdue to weed out the free loaders.

  • JWB

    And why is it that a lot of the individuals that use the “snap” card seem to be , well, not missing many meals, if you know what I mean?

  • Wayne

    I believe if we cut out the stores that carry expensive steaks, lobster and items of this type, the only people that will be hurt are the ones that resell these food item on the black market.

  • AKLady

    Let’s target the stores that feed the elderly, disabled and poor.
    They deserve to be fined for participating in a program that is
    basically a loss situation for them. There is no profit in food stamp sales.
    Maybe we should open camps and put all th disabled, eldery and poor in them.
    Maybe we could also hurry up their deaths by denying them medical care.
    Trump’s Administration is the 4th Reich.
    Trump is Hitler reincarnate.

  • Allen

    Unless one is truly disabled, someone on food stamps should have to be in a program to be trained and find a job. Otherwise, they should be in a program that provides services to the community, such as trash pick, crossing guards, etc.

  • Bob Cherry

    The real reason some people hate the idea of government giving someone a free sandwich, is race. Europeans don’t get bent out of shape like some US people, about the government giving out free food. People who are or have been on the dole, hate the idea of people they don’t like getting government help, and have no problem showing hypocrisy. One third 13 of the people in the US are receiving some kind of government assistance.

  • Janis

    What an ingenious idea. Since the federal government decided years ago to issue EBT cards that resemble credit/debit cards to use at the checkout line, so as not to stigmatize food stamp recipients, then the Federal Govt should retrieve from the vendors, a fee, just like Visa and Mastercard bank holders do. Bravo President Trump. SNAP, Food Stamps, EBT, whatever you want to call it, has made many merchants wealthy. It is high time they give some back to the taxpayer.

  • Lucinda Schaefer

    Hopefully it will cut down on and or eliminate fraud.