Muslims Demand Anonymity as They Sue California Café

(Bob Unruh, WND) Several Muslim women who insisted that their identities be concealed in a discrimination lawsuit against a California restaurant, claiming their safety was at risk, have gone on the record anyway by posting comments on social media and granting interviews to television stations.

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The target of the suit, Urth Caffe of Laguna Beach, California, is now asking permission of the court to add the full names of the women to the lawsuit and to a counter-suit filed by the restaurant, according to a new filing.

WND reported the case arose after restaurant workers asked, in keeping with restaurant policy, a group of Muslim women to move or share their tables in a popular spot at the eatery on a busy night.

The women responded with a discrimination lawsuit against the restaurant, and the restaurant answered with a counter-suit against the women, charging they were engaging in Islamic “lawfare.”

The women had been asked by restaurant workers to abide by a publicly promoted policy to give up or share popular patio tables after 45 minutes. But they refused and eventually left only after police were called.

The women later obtained a lawyer who claimed they were the subjects of religious discrimination and sued. The restaurant’s responding complaint against them cites trespass.

Now the American Freedom Law Center, which is defending the Urth Caffe, is seeking to add the women’s names to the official documents.

“Based upon plaintiffs’ own discovery responses, five of the plaintiffs, which include three of the four ‘anonymous’ plaintiffs claiming to fear for their safety, have publicly criticized defendants and accused them of bigotry and permitted their pictures to be taken by news outlets,” the new court filing said.

“Indeed, while withheld from plaintiffs’ discovery responses, Urth Caffe located an article from a heavily trafficked website that included Facebook quotes from the fourth ‘anonymous’ plaintiff,” the filing explained.

The filing noted that Sara C. in the original complaint is Sara Chamma, Yumna H. is Yumna Hameed, Safa R. is Safa Rawag and Marwa R. is Marwa Raga.

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“It is an odd, if not untenable position, to claim a fear of public exposure while exploiting public exposure to generate a social media firestorm by accusing defendants of being bigots and engaging in illegal discrimination,” explained the filing, which was posted online.

“Indeed … only Urth Caffe employees have been the subject of direct criminal threats, which necessitated the filnig of a criminal report by Urth Caffe management with the FBI and local police and employing armed security to escort employees to their automobiles at night,” said the legal filing in Superior Court in Orange County, California.

The “anonymous” women declined several times to provide their full names, the brief explains, but they or their legal representatives had failed to submit a motion to conceal that information.

The Urth Caffe explained that in California, “as in all states and in the federal courts, there is a First Amendment right held by the public to know who is suing whom and this means there is an obligation to sue in your own name and not hide behind a wall of anonymity.”

“There are exceptions to this rule, but these exceptions require a clear showing of harm to the anonymous plaintiffs that outweighs the public’s right to know.

“In this case, the plaintiffs not only refused to provide their names for the public record, but also refused to provide their names to the defendant Urth Caffe pursuant to a protective order that would have kept the names out of the public domain,” the brief said.

Senior Counsel David Yerushalmi noted four of the seven plaintiffs claimed that their safety would be at risk by disclosing their names.

“However, they could point to no instance of a single threat to their safety nor could they point to a single instance where Muslims had sued for discrimination, and there are plenty of high-profile cases to choose from, where a single Muslim was put in harm’s way as a result of the filing of a lawsuit for discrimination in his or her own name.”

He said Urth Caffe “did not discriminate against the women who have filed this fraudulent lawsuit.”

“The claim that these women were asked to leave the café because they were wearing hijabs is laughable given the number of hijab-wearing Urth Caffe customers. After nearly a year of discovery, the plaintiffs have not produced a shred of evidence of discrimination. Yet, the plaintiffs had no problem holding a press conference naming Urth Caffe and individual staff members and labelling them as bigots. ”

The OC Weekly noted the 45-minute policy is publicly posted by the restaurant.

The policy states: “During our busy rush times, if you have already been at a table for 45 minutes or longer, please share or give your table to someone who is waiting. If tables are available, you are certainly welcome to enjoy Urth for as long as you desire.”

The restaurant called police and had them ask the women to leave when they refused to comply with a manager’s request.

Commentator Daniel Greenfield at FrontPage Magazine jumped right to the point in a commentary headlined “Another Muslim ‘minor inconvenience hate’ hoax gets shot down.”

“Actual minorities have hate crimes. Muslims mainly seem to have minor inconveniences. Like the Muslim passenger who was supposedly refused a can of diet coke by the flight attendant… only because she was Muslim. Or the Muslim who allegedly suffered a dirty look. Or were asked to leave a coffee shop after 45 minutes of hogging a table,” he wrote.

“For some reason, this incredibly Islamophobic coffee shop let her and her friends order, sit and hang out for 45 minutes. And then only asked them to leave after 45 minutes. Which is the policy,” said Greenfield. “I’m sure [then-president] Obama will be commenting on this before long. Because tragic minor inconveniences of hate like this cannot and must not be tolerated. Muslims should receive special exemption from all normal rules, whether while flying or at restaurants. The failure to respect Muslim Privilege is itself discriminatory.”

Republished with permission from WND.com via iCopyright license

  • Tricia Harris

    Our country OUR LAWS! if you don’t like abiding by OUR LAWS, you are more than welcome to leave. Of course their names MUST be added to the lawsuit – if I were the one in the lawsuit, you can darn well bet MY name would be on it. NO ONE is exempt from the laws of our country.

    • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

      TRISH, IN EVERY LAW SUIT THERE IS ALWAYS A PARTY ON THE WRONG SIDE [and sometimes it is all the parties]. WHILE FROM WHAT I’VE READ, THERE WAS NO DISCRIMINATION, JUST BECAUSE THESE WOMEN WRONGFULLY BROUGHT A LAW SUIT DOES NOT MEAN THEY DON’T RESPECT “OUR LAWS” IN PRINCIPLE. LET ME SAY THAT AS A LOYAL AMERICAN [who did not vote for a LIB/DEM for President since 2000] I AM SOMEWHAT BETWEEN SADDENED AND SICKENED BY MANY [perhaps most] OF THE VARIOUS POSTS HERE WHICH I’VE BEEN READING.

      • Gerry

        Mark , typing your statement in capitals does not add to the meaning or intelligence of it. Any true Muslim must put sharia law above all other laws Constatutional or local . They may try to use the law of the resident country for gain financial or otherwise but number one has to be sharia no exceptions .

        • kodster

          And that is the heart of the matter. This is all a part of their agenda to have Sharia law imposed upon America, and override our US Constitution. Daniel Greenfield of FrontPage Magazine has it nailed on the head, even though his writing is in complete sarcasm and irony of what the Muslim women are doing. Every time there is a ‘perceived’ wrong by Muslims, they are going to use OUR court system to destroy ourselves, from within. This is why we MUST nip any judge who would follow their wishes in political correctness, OUT of our court systems, because those judges are too much of wimps to stand up and tell them NO!

          • satcatchet

            ALL judges swears upon the Bible to uphold and abide by their oath of office. I think the words, “to protect the Contitution of the United States of America…” is in their oath not Shariah Law. There is only one (1) law in this nation andit is the Constitution of the United States of America and that includes California. Like it or not.

          • WAYCAL

            Right on If you don’t like it LEAVE

          • Herb1949

            islam decrees they have to take over the world. That is their ultimate goal.

          • kodster

            Would you like to verify that as being 100% true, because I know for a fact that it is not true. There are judges that have sworn on the Koran, rather than the Holy Bible, and there have been TWO judges that I know of that have been removed from the bench, by the Trump administration, for doing just what I said they are doing… putting Sharia law ahead of the US Constitution.

          • Michael

            Good to know that the Trump administration got it right.

          • satcatchet

            Name them.

          • donnypinetree

            get off your butt and ook them up

          • independent thinker

            Oh put a sock in it. kodster made the claim so it is up to him to provide the proof (which he did when asked).

          • Herb1949

            Being the “intelligent, good citizen” you are, you should have already known the answer.

          • independent thinker

            The question is NOT if I knew the answer or not but rather it is the one making the claim providing proof of that claim if asked (which he did).

          • Herb1949

            Or maybe take the time to get your news from somewhere besides a lib talking points site.

          • kodster

            Judge Lawrence P. Zatkoff, a federal district court judge in Michigan, https://www.thomasmore.org/news/sharia-law-gains-foothold-us-federal-judge-upholds-government-funding-islam/

            Judge Mark Martin, Pennsylvania, https://counterjihadreport.com/2012/02/28/judge-elevates-sharia-law-over-us-constitution-in-pennsylvania/

            A 3-judge Federal Appeals court… the 10th District Court of Appeals… http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/10/justice/oklahoma-sharia/index.html Oh, and btw, this one also makes note of SCOTUS Judge Elena Kagan saying she would recognize international law over US Constitutional law, during her confirmation hearing.

            Is that sufficient for you?

          • Johnny Roy md

            You are right ! Some of these folks challenge us to see how much we yield ;which unfortunately we do.(we have a lawyer-Mr Brecker-) educating us about the intent of their lawsuit.We should have a law wherby the plaintif pay heavily for the cost incurred by the defendent !! That may stop foolish claims & put a stop to equally foolish baseless lawsuits.
            As an immigrant myself,I would propose all newcomers to our land to sign upon arrival a form, indicating abidence to our constitution & all our laws !
            Any intentional infringement is ground for forfeiting their rights.
            God bless America !

          • June Burgess

            and where in the constitution is it guaranteed that you will have a private table in a crowded restaurant.

          • john kirby

            don’t forget,muslims have ulterior motives. they want their religion to be paramount in the world. that means numbers here in the usa. if enough muslims vote,they can over ride our laws. any muslim is a good dead one in my opinion. after all,they would cheerfully kill us if they could. read the koran and see. (not the usa one they push to America, but the REAL koran they are really taught out of!

          • Herb1949

            Not anymore, they don’t have to swear on the Bible, they can use a koran, or nothing at all.

          • Maxine Albritton

            bingo, perfect response. You have it nailed perfectly, and when they make us still living become muslims they will still be killing us. they seem to do this to each other , more the males than females that I know of.

          • jaybird

            They cannot make us become Muslims, most Americans have weapons and will not set still for it.

          • kodster

            I will NEVER submit to Islam, but you’re right, they’re going to try and force us to do so. Those of us who think otherwise, have NO idea what the Bible says. They’ll still kill us, even if we convert, because we will not observe the particular sect that they insist is the correct sect. And that’s where they are killing each other over. The Sunnis are killing the Shi’ites, because both sects are at odds at each other, and have been, for 1,400 years, as to who to follow… Mohammad or one of his generals who succeeded him.

          • Maxine Albritton

            you are correct in all your statements however, they trying to convert us now and while obama was president they were very successfull you don’t believe this incident over the iner and tables is a misstep No it is trying to get us in the direction of giving in to them. The blacks do the same they are the poor victims and they are abused and we are racist against them until they get their way. this group wants sharia law ans are getting that in several places in the US. they want to control us and takover this country they took over south Phillipines a country that begins with an M. The President was going to fight back. He was expecting them to take over the whole island but not yet. They took over that city and were satisfied for awhile. They probably killed all the normal residents, there were some deaths recorded but I never heard anymore. Amazing how some news does not get reported, Later they will take over another and another. Christians and practicing Jews cannot convert. Jews because of the first two commandments. Christians because of that and in revelations it says that if we take the mark which will come too. God will be through with us. I think this is all tied together

        • Tricia Harris

          That is not true! And you don’t know what you are talking about. Sharia is the Arabic word for LAW! So you are saying they have to put law law above all other laws which is ludicrous. This is the mentality of those who are ill informed of Islam,. Sharia is CULTURAL not religious! and you are getting your knowledge about it from the media who is as stupid about it as the extremists and radicals and many Christian ministers who don’t know the difference between the culture and the religion either!

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            AND “DIN-TORAH” DOES NOT MEAN “LAW”? [I believe both words mean “law”, though in Hebrew School one of my teachers said he preferred Torah” to be translated as “Learning”.] I DON’T CLAIM TO BE AN EXPERT IN ISLAM, BUT LIVED [and “taught”] IN A COUNTRY DEPICTED AS HALF MOSLEM HALF CHRISTIAN [predominantly Coptic; so no pork, as is forbidden in Islam, nor other items such as shell-fish, which Islam allows, I understand not why]. SO AT LEAST I DON’T FEEL TO BE EXAGGERATING WHEN I CLAIM TO HAVE A BIT OF AN “INKLING”. BE WELL.

          • Michael G. Wilson

            Forbidding both pork and shellfish have valid medical reasons. Pork, due to the worm that can be transfected into the muscles of those that eat of it, if it isn’t cooked properly this is also true of other animals such as bears and raccoons and opossums, since they also are scavengers. Shellfish are notorious for harboring numerous bacteria just because they are both filtering also scavengers, which again contaminates them with those bacteria’s that are most harmful to humans.

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            MIKEY,
            WHEN THE FIVE BOOKS OF MOSES WERE “PUBLISHED” [on Mount Sinai, by the Creator] ALL THESE “MODERN” MEDICAL FACTORS WERE UNKNOWN [until perhaps 150-200 years ago].
            THESE TEXTS ARE NEITHER HISTORY BOOKS NOR A GUIDE FOR PHYSICIANS. THE ONLY REASON FOR FOLLOWING THESE [and the hundreds of other laws] IS BECAUSE “G-D SAID TO FOLLOW THEM. THE GREATER THE PRACTICAL VALUE [which many are; we have a loving G-d], THE LESS THEY WOULD BE MATTERS OF FAITH.

          • Michael G. Wilson

            That is true, and although I’m a born again Christian and solid in my faith, I couldn’t argue as to if my/our God isn’t of a extraterrestrial nature. I know that he has created heaven and earth and all living things! Where my real questioning comes into play are the war with a portion of the angels and the casting out of Lucifer and his followers! Just who really are angels, if they could possibly revolt, or doubt Gods wisdom and his “Oneness!” Most of the clergy do not want to touch this line of questioning with a ten thousand foot pole.

          • satcatchet

            Read the book of Job, it should clear up some issues you may have with Satan and his angles. God has His angles. The angles of God fight with the angles of Satan. And the battles are not of flesh and blood but of forces unseen, principalities, powers of Good and Evil. So unless you ask Christ into your heart and ask for forgiveness, and beleive Christ shed his blood for your sins, you are on the loosing end of a battle that will put a stop to all this corruption and evil hate. It’s an easy choice, smoking or non-smoking section.

          • john kirby

            bible got smarter,koran didn’t. new testament allows those food as long as they are COOKED thoroughly. seems to me koran is NOT inspired of any deity but its self (mohammed)

          • Frank W Brown

            It doesn’t MATTER what sharia means, the ONLY thing that MATTERS is The Constitution of The United States of America, GET IT??? Sharia is DIRECTLY in opposition to OUR LAWS, PERIOD!

          • jaybird

            They are using Sharia in our courts according to their rules on divorce, settlements and anything Real Estate. That is putting their law above ours.
            Gerry did not say anything about it being religious. Looks like you got hysterical.

          • john kirby

            I think you need to educate your statement. muslims want us all DEAD..do you understand? look at what going on in Europe!. as their numbers grow,they control places and the death starts. it will be no different here unless they are removed as a cancer gets removed.. you people with your bleeding hearts, al Sharpton lovers. god man….the KORAN in muslim countries, NOT the bled down version they let US USA PEOPLE READ. says ‘Kill the infidel,oppress him wherever you find him’ (I quote koran here)..guess what you are?..your children,relatives,neighbors,co workers, yup all of ’em are.your an infidel. yup. you. to them your dog food. nothing more. don’t defend willing killers ,rout them instead! shoot them down,make sure others know what they want to do. and don’t take my word for it! look for yourselves.

          • jaybird

            I was posting to Tricia about Sharia in our country. My statement was in reference to what she said. Tricia may be a bleeding heart but I am not.

            I do not know what you mean when you say I “need to educate my statement”? We were not talking about any of the s…t you are upset about. Maybe you should re-read my reply to her.

            I think they all should be deported if you want to know.

          • Gerry

            Sorry, Tricia but the use of the term sharia law is totally acceptable and is part of Islam which is a cultural , social ,educational economic system masqurading as a religion. The sole purpose of which is the acquisition and retention of power in the hands of the self chosen few . As to where I obtain knowledge on Islam. I am a sixty seven year old medical doctor and have read the Koran three times and the Hadith five volumes plus many explatory books on Islam over the last forty years . I know my way around this subject and have no need to stoop to personal insult to prove a point.

          • john kirby

            ummm..your WRONG. I think you need to educate your statement. muslims want us all DEAD..do you understand? look at what going on in Europe!. as their numbers grow,they control places and the death starts. it will be no different here unless they are removed as a cancer gets removed.. you people with your bleeding hearts, al Sharpton lovers. god man….the KORAN in muslim countries, NOT the bled down version they let US USA PEOPLE READ. says ‘Kill the infidel,oppress him wherever you find him’ (I quote koran here)..guess what you are?..your children,relatives,neighbors,co workers, yup all of ’em are.your an infidel. yup. you. to them your dog food. nothing more. don’t defend willing killers ,rout them instead! shoot them down,make sure others know what they want to do. and don’t take my word for it! look for yourselves.

          • Phoebe Isley

            Ok Tricia let’s get down to the nitty gritty. Sharia Law…The Koran…same ole same ole and does not COMPUTE and let me repeat does not COMPUTE nor does it coincide with

          • kodster

            You just proved that you are the one that is ignorant about the intent of Sharia law. I don’t need the MSM to tell me what their intent is. All I have to do is study Islam, and read the Qu’Ran, for myself. Do you know that they are required to acknowledge that Jesus is the Son of God, according to their own holy book? Yet, they deny Him as being the Son of God. Does that tell you how obedient they are? Mohammad tells them they need to read about Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

          • Michael G. Wilson

            Kodster, I believe that I read it as that they respect Jesus as a prophet, and not the Son of God, and in doing so, elevate Mohammad to the level of Jesus!

          • john kirby

            and koran says subterfuge is perfectly acceptable as long as it pushes muslim law. muslims want us all dead. end of discussion.

          • margie

            you are so wrong, Sharia is religious and the law all Muslims follow. By killing infidels, they go to Heaven.

          • satcatchet

            WRONG. The muslums are all in the smoking section.

          • john kirby

            I think you need to educate your statement. muslims want us all DEAD..do you understand? look at what going on in Europe!. as their numbers grow,they control places and the death starts. it will be no different here unless they are removed as a cancer gets removed.. you people with your bleeding hearts, al Sharpton lovers. god man….the KORAN in muslim countries, NOT the bled down version they let US USA PEOPLE READ. says ‘Kill the infidel,oppress him wherever you find him’ (I quote koran here)..guess what you are?..your children,relatives,neighbors,co workers, yup all of ’em are.your an infidel. yup. you. to them your dog food. nothing more. don’t defend willing killers ,rout them instead! shoot them down,make sure others know what they want to do. and don’t take my word for it! look for yourselves.

          • independent thinker

            In islam you cannot separate religion, culture, or politics. All are a part of the same system and according to the koran must be forced onto the “non-believer”.

          • Derek

            How about this Trish? I don’t care about their beliefs or culture or religion period! If they don’t like the way things work here? Then by all means LEAVE! As long as people like you run around behind them kissing their butts this mess will never end. Why don’t you marry one and move to Yemen or something?

        • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

          GERRY, I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT IN ALL MY YEARS OF USING CAPS [always when not throwing in a parenthetical expression] THE ONLY COMPLAINTS RECEIVED ABOVE THEM HAVE COME FROM PEOPLE DISAGREEING WITH MY SUBSTANTIVE [if poorly worded] POINTS. I SAY I HATE SAYING THIS BECAUSE NOW SOMEONE WILL CLAIM [or pretend to claim] THAT THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT BUT HATE SEEING CAPS. [Try measuring the difference in size and an honest person would have to admit it to be rather pickyune{sp?}.]
          NOW AS TO SUBSTANCE. IF THERE BE TWO MOSLEMS HAVING A DISPUTE, TO INVOKE SHARIA AND HAVE IT BINDING, BOTH MUST SO DESIRE TO BE BOUND THEREBY, AND THEN CAN REFUSE TO OBEY IF THERE NOT BE IN THE AGREEMENT TO BE BOUND FOR THE DETERMINATION TO BE ALLOWED TO BE ENTERED IN A [secular] COURT WHERE THE VICTOR CAN SUBSEQUENTLY PROCEED TO HAVE THE DETERMINATION [in accordance with the law of the jurisdiction] ENFORCED. ERGO, IT IS NO DIFFERENT, NOR MORE THREATENING, THEN A DIN TORAH. TAKE CARE.
          MOSHE ARYEH IBN SH’MUEL HAKOHEN

          • TontonB

            You’re not in court counselor or writing a legal brief. This is a posting on Liberty Headlines.

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            I DOUBT THE “OWNERS” [or whatever] OF “LIBERTY HEADLINES” FEAR OPINIONS SOMEWHAT DIVERSE FROM THEIR PHILOSOPHY. “NOT IN COURT”? EVERY DAY WE ARE IN COURT, AND AT THE END, WILL BE JUDGED BY THE OMNIPOTENT OVER-SEER.

          • Michael

            Reading your posts is giving me a headache. So I will stop.

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            TRUTHS ARE NOT EASY TO DEAL WITH WHEN THEY INTERFERE WITH THE CONCLUSIONS SOME [desperately] WISH TO HOLD.

          • 28H2O48

            Mark – YOU ARE WRONG!!

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            THE REASONING BEHIND YOUR CONCLUSION IS STAGGERING [or at least should be].

          • 28H2O48

            Mark – YES

          • kodster

            ‘picayune’… close, though. 😉

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            CLOSE BUT NO CIGAR? WELL, WHO WANTS A CIGAR ANYWAY, OR TONGUE CANCER FOR THAT MATTER!

          • Bill Herman

            Mark Esq. I THINK YOU MUST HAVE BEEN LAST IN YOUR CLASS WHY YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SON OF SAMUEL

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            BILLY BOY, I AM NOT “TALKING ABOUT THE SON OF SAMUEL”; I AM, IN PART, “SIGNING OFF” THEREOF. IT’S A SEMITIC THING; OUR [significant] LAST NAMES ARE OUR FATHER’S FIRST NAMES. IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE ME, KEEP YOUR EARS OPEN THE NEXT TIME YOU VISIT ADDIS ABEBE.
            Maricos Samiel K’han
            p.s. Not only did the person “last in class” fail to graduate, but perhaps 20-25% in the lower quadrant so failed. I was far from “head and shoulders” above the others, though I use the product. As best as I can remember I made the top third, but only barely so.

      • Tricia Harris

        I agree that in every law suit there is always a party on the wrong side. If all they are wanting is their 15 minutes of fame, too bad. There was no discrimination, and what irritates me is their refusal to have their name entered in the lawsuit, which says to me that it is a frivolous lawsuit in a socialist state full of stupidity – California. They brought the lawsuit with disrespect for our laws because they were told multiple times and refused in their arrogance that the laws don’t apply to them. I have numerous Muslims I work with and my business partner is an African American Muslim – he is one of the most decent men I know and even more of a staunch Conservative than I am. He knows the laws of our country, and he supports them 100%. I read this article to him and his opinion was they should have moved particularly after they were asked several times, and in addition he was outraged that they screamed discrimination because they didn’t want their names used. In his words, what a crock of BS that they disrespect our laws in the fake name of ‘they felt unsecure’ in letting their names be used.

        • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

          TRISH, I REITERATE THAT FROM THE FACTS TO WHICH I’VE BEEN PRIVY THERE WAS NO DISCRIMINATION NOR DANGER IF THEIR IDENTITIES WERE KNOWN. BUT IF THEY BELIEVE [and some people are very insecure and conjure being discriminated against] A] THEY WERE BEING DISCRIMNATED AND B] WOULD BE ENDANGERED IF THEIR NAMES WERE SPECIFIED IN LEGAL [public record] DOCS. APPARENTLY THE JUDGE HAS RULED OUT DANGER. THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THEIR MOMENT IN COURT. AND LET ME TELL YOU, LOSING A LAW SUIT AIN’T NO FUN [I’m an expert in losing law suits].

      • TontonB

        Then, you as an attorney (if you really are) should know and understand how frivolous lawsuits ‘clog’ the system and use legal resources that could be used for lawsuits where someone was really ‘injured’. A rational judge would review this and reject it for lack of injury. Especially the plaintiffs.

        • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

          OF COURSE FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS ARE DEBILITATING, CLOG THE COURTS, ETC. BUT EVEN COURTHOUSE CLERKS [who often know the law better than judges; definitely better than attorneys, especially yours truly] OUGHT NOT BE ABLE TO LOOK AT A COMPLAINT, DEEM IT FRIVOLOUS [and refuse to accept the filing fee].
          I KNOW OF NO JURISDICTION WHERE A DEFENDANT IS PRECLUDED FROM MOVING TO DISMISS PRIOR TO ANSWERING THE COMPLAINT [or for summary judgment after answering]. FURTHERMORE, THE DEFENDANT CAN, AS THIS ONE HAS, COUNTER-CLAIM. THEN IT BECOMES UP TO THE JUDGE [or the jury if it gets that far].
          BUT WHAT OUGHT NOT HAPPEN [and does not] THAT IT BE DETERMINED BY US “POSTERS” [all of whom have their own baggage, but not all of which is necessarily negative].

          • TontonB

            Why would the defendant move to dismiss if the defendant believes to be injured? In this case, the restaurant owner (defendant) might suffer damage to his business due to this ridiculous lawsuit getting publicized on social media etc. Difficult to prove cause-effect however.

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            AN AGGRIEVED DEFENDANT MAY MOVE TO DISMISS THE COMPLAINT WHILE RETAINING THE RIGHT TO GO FORWARD ON THE COUNTERCLAIM, WHICH, In this case, the restaurant owner (defendant) might [have] suffer[ed] damage to his business. BY THE WAY, AND THIS IS TANGENTIAL, I’D SURMISE THAT DUE TO SYMPATHY [and a bit of bigotry] HIS BUSINESS IS PROBABLY NOW QUITE INCREASED.

          • TontonB

            Facts, counselor, facts. Not ‘probably, may, might etc’. The court only wants facts, not supposition.

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            IN THE ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE, A TRIAL, ETC., ONE CAN ONLY EXTRAPOLATE. THE MODEL PRESENTED WAS THEORETICAL TO PRESENT VARIOUS POSSIBILITIES DEMONSTRATING THAT AN AGGRIEVED DEFENDANT HAS BOTH RECOURSE AND OPTIONS.
            OFF TO THE GYM [taking my decrepit 74 year old bode with me].

          • kodster

            Has either of the cases appeared in a court of law, yet? Then, it is still ‘hypothetical’, ‘alleged’, ‘probably’, ‘may’, ‘might’. Until a judge and/or jury decide the outcome, it is ALL in the air, and NOTHING is fact until that time.

          • Michael G. Wilson

            That is purely a speculation on your part and not a solid stand to take for a person of the courts. I am curious as to your country of origin, and your actual profession. I thought that you stated to have trained in medicine, and yet you also profess to a living derived of the judiciary. The only region that I know of that has a substantial Islamic and a Coptic population is north Africa and Egypt, but that delicate balance is rapidly deteriorating to the demise of that Coptic population. Not being argumentative, just enjoy a good discussion.

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            VERY GLAD YOU EXPRESSED YOURSELF; NOT SURE WITH ME YOU CAN HAVE A “GOOD DISCUSSION” [or good anything]. I AM GOING TO TRY TO REPLICATE YOUR POST HERE, AND MAKE COMMENTS [which can be seen as mine as most will be in caps, albeit not parenthetical expressions]:
            That is purely a speculation on your part and not a solid stand to take for a person of the courts.
            I WOULD NOT MIND SPECULATING, BUT I WAS PROVIDING A “MODEL” AS TO HOW AND WHY CASES CAN BE TRUNCATED [almost] AB INITIO.
            I am curious as to your country of origin
            HOW MANY YEARS CENTURIES BACK DO YOU WANT ME TO GO. BORN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TWENTIETH CENTURY, IT WAS IN BAYONNE, NEW JERSEY.
            , and your actual profession.
            I AM A MEMBER OF THE BAR, SPEND A LOT OF TIME [mis-] MANAGING A SHOPPING CENTER, DO A LOT OF PRO-BOUNO WORK [who would pay me?] MOSTLY FOR PEOPLE FROM A GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION I [understandbly – see below] LOVE.
            I thought that you stated to have trained in medicine
            I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO TRAINING IN MEDICINE [but a couple months ago had implanted a replaced aortic vale and repair of damaged mitrol valves and bi-cuspid of my {74 year old} heart – despite 15 marathons under my belt, half my life ago; no shame-hereditary-cousins went thru the same several decades prior to me; no problem – 45 days later I was transversing the reservoir and a week later pumping iron, at less weight than anyone else in my gym].
            , and yet you also profess to a living
            LIVING? YOU CALL THIS A LIVING!!
            derived of the judiciary.
            ????????
            The only region that I know of that has a substantial Islamic and a Coptic population is north Africa and Egypt, but that delicate balance is rapidly deteriorating to the demise of that Coptic population.
            THE “OTHER” REGION IS AN AREA WHERE I SPENT TWO YEARS TEACHING [English as a Second Language and Social Studies]. I WAS STATIONED IN THE CITY OF ASMARA, THEN THE CAPITAL OF THE PROVINCE OF ERITREA [abutting the Red Sea, south of Sudan, and across from Yemen]. HALF THE POPULATION [probably less was Christian, mostly Coptic but many Roman Catholic; Eritrea had been a colony of Italy for many, many decades-and i can share what I heard during the Mousolini period, which may not be that which one would expect. “MY” COPTS [unlike the Egyptian Copts, for which we had the same Abuna [Pope] until Selassie separated us] AT NO PORK, NOR, SHELL FISH, CAMELS, ETC. [They even claimed ducks and geese were forbidden because of their webbed feet.].
            ASMARA ALSO HAD HINDUS, A JEWISH POPULATION OF ABOUT 100, MOSTLY FROM ADEN/SOUTH YEMEN, BUT SOME ITALIANS AS WELL, B’HAI, AND EVEN PROTESTANTS [such as my Headmaster]. I WILL NOT SAY THERE HAD NEVER BEEN FIGHTS/ARGUMENTS [especially towards the end of nights of imbibing], BUT NEVER, IN TWO YEARS, DID I WITNESS ANY ANIMOSITY BECAUSE HE WAS MOSELM, SHE WAS COPTICS, IT WAS CATHOLIC, MEMHERE [teacher] MARIKOS WAS AN ISRAELITE. BE WELL.
            Not being argumentative, just enjoy a good discussion.

          • Michael G. Wilson

            Born in Connecticut, US ARMY 66-69 General Engineering contractor Started with Emerada Hess out of NJ Beacon Oil in California Residential and commercial builder in the southwestern USA till last Sept.

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            I WENT TO ENLIST IN THE FALL/WINTER OF 1966, WANTING TO GO TO VIETNAM [where if we had won, there would have been no 9/11]. WHEN THEY SAID THEY COULD NOT GUARANTEE MY BEING SHIPPED OFF TO THEIR, CHANGED DIRECTION AND WHILE WORKING FOR [or against?] THE NYC DEPT. OF WELFARE, WENT TO LAW [lore?] SCHOOL.
            THE REST IS HISTORY [or histrionics?].

          • Michael G. Wilson

            Got drafted in July of 66 and enlisted to get a better deal, if you can call it a better deal, HA HA

          • kodster

            In that, you are correct. The courthouse clerks are not authorized to reject court records that they, themselves, may determine to be frivolous… that is left entirely up to the judge assigned to hear the case.

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            NOR THE PROVINCE OF US POSTERS!

          • kodster

            I’m a certified paralegal. It behooves us, sir, to educate those who are not officers of the court as to the way the court systems work.

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            OF COURSE. INCLUDING THE WAY THE COURT SYSTEM[s] DON’T WORK, TO WIT, NOT VIA US POSTERS [even on such “frivolous” aspects such as motions to dismiss and for summary judgment].
            me
            I TOO AM CERTIFIED, BUT CERTIFIED …… [rhymes with inane].

      • jaybird

        and we are sickened by your post and the Muslims that do not abide by our laws and assimilate in our country. Have they stopped FGM yet??? They are structuring their own little towns, practicing Sharia law and wanting our courts to abide by it in their divorce/settlement/real estate cases. Respect our laws in principle??

        • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

          AGAIN, OUR COURTS WILL FOLLOW A SHARIA COURT’S CONCLUSION ONLY IF BOTH PARTIES SO STIPULATE AND WITHIN SAID AGREEMENT [stipulation] BOTH PARTIES PROVIDE FOR THE CONCLUSION TO BE ENTERED IN A SECULAR COURT/ENFORCED ACCORDING TO SECULAR LAW. FEAR MANY THINGS/NOT THIS. WE HAVE FOR CENTURIES SO TREATED CANNON LAW DETERMINATIONS SIMILARLY [and Dinei Torahtim, as well] TO LITTLE OR NO DETRIMENT.

      • Michael G. Wilson

        Usually the term Esq., is reserved for a lawyer, so I’ll forgive your attitude. First off, Islam is a massive cult, not a religion. Secondly once it is correctly labeled a cult, then it may be forbidden to take up residence in the United States of America due to it’s subversive nature, and it’s un-american practices with it’s system of governance and laws! I do not hate them, or despise them, or wish any harm to befall them, but they can not and will not swear allegiance to our Constitution and even to our way of life. They are just not compatible in any western society. What’s more, they do not want to be compatible! So that brings up the $64,000.00 question, just why are they coming here and what is the goal of our government in bring them here?

      • June Burgess

        how disrespectful of our courts do you have to be to be a money grabbing disrespectful abuser of the law before you call a spade a spade.

        • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

          JUNE, BABY,
          I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU THINK I DID/SAID WHICH WAS DISRESPECTFUL OF THE COURTS; IF THE CLERKS ARE MORE PROFICIENT THAN MANY JUDGES [or if I rightfully or wrongfully believe this, it’s wrong for me to express my first amendment opinion, after many decades of “experience” to express it]. MONEY GRABBING? WANT TO EXCHANGE W-2’s? I WOULD ALWAYS CALL A SPADE A SPADE OR A HEART A HEART, HAVING HAD 3 MONTHS AGO MY 74 YEAR OLD HEART REMOVED, ITS AORTIC ARTERY REPLACED, ITS MITRAL VALVES REPAIRED, AS WELL AS THE BI-CUSPID; BUT DON’T FRET; 55 DAYS LATER BACK TO MY JOGGING AND A WEEK LATER PUMPING IRON [at an amount that made me #1 at the gym, as the lowest one on the totem pole!]. BE WELL.
          me
          p.s. Did you have a relative in North Arlington, N.J. NAMED BOBBY BURGESS?

      • john kirby

        read the koran..the REAL one,not the English one they push here in usa. in it you’ll find the have a moral imperative to kill their enemies (non muslims). if your gonna have a bleeding heart,put it in a good place, not muslims reLigion..this country is a place where all can have the right to practice religions of their choosing. muslims want us all deaD and or practicing religion of THEIR choice,not ours. they are a religion of death!. read it like I did!!!

        • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

          JOHN [and others in this thread, almost all of whom have the same opinions and attitudes, yet call each other names! Go figure.], I KNOW NOT ABOUT THE MUSLIMS YOU’VE MET, BUT MY MUSLIMS DON’T WANT PEOPLE DEAD [not even me, though I deserve it for many, many reasons].

    • Californiasailor

      Tricia, the way I see it is simple. Round them up, put them on a plane and revoke entry to our NATION. Simple enough, yes it may get costly but hey it is safe and efficient.

      • Maxine Albritton

        don’t we wish.

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          • hankthetank

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        • Californiasailor

          Wishes happen dear…

      • jaybird

        Cheaper than lawsuits or them eventually taking over our country!

        • June Burgess

          you mean unwarranted lawsuits and a waste of taxpayers money & court costs. Could you imagine that every time we were asked to share a table with another what our courts would look like with all the frivolous money grabbers lawsuits.

      • If only it were that easy. America would be a far better place without these islamics who are trying to ruin our country as they have Europe.

      • jjmcl431

        never mind putting them on a plane. give them a row boat, one oar and drop them off in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and point them to Mecca.

      • hankthetank

        Make sure it’s an old plane, so we can blow it out of the sky’s !!!

    • slk5

      what are the odds, of getting a liberal socialist judge in cal!!!

      • satcatchet

        I’ll play the lotto!

        • slk5

          better shot at winning!!!

      • Tricia Harris

        Pretty darn good – certainly far better than the odds of getting a Constitutional Conservative!

        • slk5

          exactly!!!

      • BonniePrinceCharlie

        In California???? Never, surely!!!!

      • This is the way liberals have screwed up our country. Politically correct BS. The same with lgtb and antifa.

        • slk5

          bingo!!!

          • If you’re a woman or have a girlfriend, don’t forget to mothball those burkini’s.

      • hankthetank

        WE already have !!! The ( 9th ciriut ) !!!

        • slk5

          bingo!!!

    • Lizard

      Just Hillary Clinton above American laws

  • Doris

    what horseshit….discrimination due to being asked to make room for others??!!??? i smell some BS here…they’ll lose the lawsuit but being its CA

  • VirgoVince

    WHY ARE WE STILL ALLOWING ugly muslime garbage
    TO CONTAMINATE OUR SOIL?? FLUSH THE toilets!!

  • Mort Leith

    These satan-w0rshippers are ALL going to H311 anyway,,, good riddens

    • Ola Bannister

      They will destroy this country before before reaching H311.

      • satcatchet

        No they won’t. Too many people pray to God the Muslims will be crushed. Stand by and witness their destruction.

      • Maxine Albritton

        between them and the left it is a toss up. who first. then there is nkorea , and other countries that just love us. for the NWO to work America has to go first. after we are extinguished, the european countiies will be a piec of cake to overtake. the helpless sitting ducks they are.

  • gotcha1

    These women must be terribly ugly to want to hide their faces like that. Like most of these people think, if they want to hide their identity they can go back to where they came from and enjoy it! Otherwise, while in the U.S. do as Americans do or you’re welcome to take a HIKE and leave! Now get over it and finish your bacon!!

    • Jim Kiser

      Right, how can anyone not like bacon? I Love bacon.

      • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

        YOU LIKES CHOLESTEROL TOO?
        p.s. Some claim “you are what you eat”. That may be true; I eat a lot of fish, and my whole life has been on the “fishy” side!

        • satcatchet

          Cholesterol? So what, Jim likes bacon, probabley eggs, toast or bisquits, pancakes with lots of real butter and gollons of maple syrup. Oh, and pork sausages on the side with coffee. I’m with Jim on this one.
          Cholesterol, 😪~

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            PEOPLE CAN LIVE FOR THE MOMENT OR PUT OFF IMMEDIATE PLEASURES FOR THE SAKE OF “THE LONG RUN”. YES, THERE ARE NO CERTAINTIES. DESPITE THE 15 MARATHONS UNDER MY BELT [half my life ago, by and large] IN MAY AFTER MY 74TH BIRTHDAY I NEEDED [and successfully received] AN AORTIC VALVE REPLACEMENT [and repair of my mitrol valves and bi-cuspid, which I had never heard of]. I WIPE THE “SHAME” OFF MY FACE BASED ON IT HAVING BEEN [paternally] INHERITED, MY COUSINS HAVING HAD THESE PROBLEMS/SITUATIONS AND/OR CURES DECADES YOUNGER THAN I.
            FOOD FOR THOUGHT, SATCATCHET?

    • smarka4

      Of course they’re ugly, why do you think muzzie males have the hots for their goats and camels :)?

      • gotcha1

        LOL!!!!!

  • Jack Scarpon

    Muslim? California? No wonder!! And this sanc state will allow that most likely!!

  • bob breglio

    Let these followers of Satan go back to whatever 3rd world country they came from and try to be out in pubic alone there and see what happens. Muslim lawfare needs to stop. You don’t like our rules, you leave. Not sue and try to get special privileges. And take all the snowflakes and perverts with you since they think our country is soooo bad.

  • cathy floyd

    It is really disgusting how muslims demand special treatment. They think that they don’t have to obey the laws of our country,any time that they don’t get what they want,they start yelling”racism or islamophobia”,and get everything their way. If they come to oue country,they should hace to obey the laws like the rest of us do. They do not deserve’special treatment’ and need to learn this.

    • Arnold Baron

      BETTER YET, SEND THEM BACK, from whence they came, TO BEING CAMEL JOCKIES.

  • George E. LeFebvre

    First of all, any sane judge would immediately dismiss the case as these tent wearers would not abide by the Restaurant policy and then he should fine them for wasting the courts time and award the restaurant a couple hundred thousand in punitive damages and legal fees plus ban these creeps from setting foot on the restaurant property ever again.

    • Ola Bannister

      Do we have any sane judges left.

      • George

        Not in California.

  • Warren Hahn

    As the Muslim numbers grow you will see this is just the beginning. This cult is growing faster than any other by both immigration and birth.

    • chocopot

      And sadly, we in the West are subsidizing them while they breed us into oblivion.

    • Cliona

      Their numbers have passed the tipping point, NO other group, culture, religion will ever be able to catch up. If nothing is done, they will eventually control the entire planet. Do you really want your future great-great-grandaughter to be murdered because she refused to convert to Islam? Remember, they won’t take NO for an answer.

      • Warren Hahn

        I used the term cult. I will not submit to Islam nor my 3 sons. I have no daughters. Its the rest of America (young) that is being fed the equality BS.

  • chocopot

    Remove all of these seventh-century savages from our nation.

    • mathis1689

      Better if they were removed from the planet.

      • chocopot

        From your mouth to G-d’s ears…

        • mathis1689

          Hopefully He’s listening.

          • chocopot

            Amen to that!

          • Gregg Parker

            He is separating the wheat from the weeds is the way I understand the scripture. It most certainly is becoming very easy these days to know which is which… peace

          • mathis1689

            Whole lot of weeds around these days it seems to me. Grace and peace.

    • nocbsfan

      Hey ! That’s not a bad idea.

      • chocopot

        Thank you.

        • nocbsfan

          I meant it that is a perfect idea now if we could just do it. We will it is just going to take a couple of years

  • retired4ever

    Abide by the laws of the USA or go home where you have all the freedom you want (HAHA).

  • Californiasailor
  • MATTEROFFACT

    The Muslims filing frivolous lawsuits against businesses is part of their terrorism plot to 1.Tie up the courts.
    2.Cause financial stress
    3. Create legal precedents for Islam control. It is a part of their plan to dominate. And punish us infidels. THEY ARE TERRORISTS WAKE UP!!!!

    • Gregg Parker

      Terror has many forms including non lethal subterfuge.

  • Californiasailor
  • How is it even legal for illegals to sue anyone? That is my question. Deport them all. Problem solved

    • Gregg Parker

      The most deer in the headlight question out there! They have no right to sue within our system. Their governments can sue on their behalf and they can take heir complaints to international tribunals. Here… they need to just get the he!! out!

  • Chuck Keneagy

    I always believed the defendant had the right to know his accuser

  • Debbie

    Welcome to America Our Laws our Rules. We have a right to face our accusser. Live with it or go home.

  • Bill

    All they seem to be doing is pulling this crap out of the air. I am offended by the attorney that even tried to start a problem … all for the sake of MONEY. OUR country, OUR laws and regulations. After all, Barry baby enacted many “regulations” that are harmful to peoples’ lives and those asshats in congress are doing nothing about it. Shame on those sorry turds too.

  • 12 Summers

    The United States of America is not a Muslim Country , period. Ask Japan what they do about Muslims entering their country, maybe we should follow their lead. You give these women an inch and they will take a mile. The Urth Café did the right thing and they should be lauded as hero’s. No one, but no one is above the law within the confines of our borders . Expose their names, or throw out the case. I don’t care if these women are ugly or beautiful, they must be treated the same as an other agitator and they started all this and now they are cowards to show their face the people of this country and if they refuse, fine them at least $10,000 and if they don’t pay, throw them in jail for 6 months.

    • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

      AMERICA IS NO MORE [nor less] OF A MOSLEM COUNTRY THAN ANY OTHER OF HER BEAUTIFUL KALEIDOSCOPE OF THEOLOGICAL ADHERENTS.

      • Gregg Parker

        But the rest of the kaleidoscope doesn’t drive trucks on the sidewalks… businessman…

        • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

          GREGSKI, I WOULD HOPE YOU AGREE THAT IT IS A STAIN [shame] ON OUR JUDEO-ISLAMIC THEOLOGY THAT WHILE MOST [of either clan] ARE NOT TERRORISTS, MOST TERRORISTS ARE MEMBERS OF ONE OF THEM.

      • 12 Summers

        When in Rome…..and Pride always comes before a fall; Proverbs:6-16 of the Seven deadly sins (They are, Greed, Sloth, Lust, Vanity, Envy, Wrath and Pride) but the worst of these is Pride or to bear false witness. …this happens way too much in our country and Mark where does it stop? America was built on a Judeo-Christian base of principles as so written in our Constitution. Restaurants have the right to refuse service, but they cannot discriminate, but what is the responsibility of these women? Are they allowed to cause discord among the customers….I hope there is still such a moral thing as knowing right from wrong in America, but it is slipping away from us, fast.

        • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

          I SEE YOU AGREE WITH ME [that the Restaurant seemingly did nothing wrong whatsoever], BUT THOUGH NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL LAWYER [as I age my constitution becomes more and more infirm], I RECALL NEVER HAVING SEEN IN OUR CONSTITUTION THE VERBIAGE THAT “America was built on a Judeo-Christian base of principles” [nor, for that matter the phrase “Judeo-Christian”]. I CAN BE WRONG. WOULD YOU KNOW OFF HAND WHERE TO WHICH IT IS SO ALLUDED?

          • 12 Summers

            Judeo-Christian Values have a foundational role in America, beginning with the Declaration of Independence:

            “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness…”

            Since the pursuit of happiness, as Sigmund Freud surmised, is tied to human love and to creative work and play, the principles of American Judeo-Christian Values can rightly be summarized as the honoring of God-given Life, Liberty and Creativity. This seed of American Social Justice was then fleshed out in the U.S. Constitution through reason and common sense, unencumbered by the dysfunctional religious and secular traditions and laws of Old Europe.

            Mark, This is what I was taught in elementary School up through High School and studying our Constitution as a topic of right and wrong and historical interest at an early age (11) and through my grandfathers eyes. He graduated from Harvard Law and was a Judge when I was born, but passed on by the time I was 12 in 1953. In turn, my mother had all his law books and his set of the World Books with the information I would need, that would augment parts of my education. My mother was a political and World War ll news writer in a small town. I had a great view of things from her perspective and my father was a daily student of the Bible, but never pious and they both wanted their 9 children to basically come to their own understandings through study and enlightenment of a world we would eventually have to blend in with. My father was a farmer and he lived by two principals his whole life; The Golden Rule and the works of William Shakespeare. The one he had on his desk, Above all to thine own self be true. from Hamlet. And Goethe tells us; ” If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you” I don’t know any other way to live and I’m too old to change a lot. I’m not perfect, but I try to weigh the issues we face today carefully and with common sense. How about you?

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            12 Summers
            Judeo-Christian Values have a foundational role in America, beginning with the Declaration of Independence:
            “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness…”
            SAME “CREATOR” WHICH OUR BRETHREN CALL ALLAH; NOTE THE “STATE OF BEING” VERB IN AMHARIC, A SEMITIC LANGUAGE.

            Since the pursuit of happiness, as Si gmund Freud surmised, is tied to human love and to creative work and play, the principles of American Judeo-Christian Values can rightly be summarized as the honoring of God-given Life, Liberty and Creativity.
            NO CONFLICT,
            This seed of American Social Justice was then fleshed out in the U.S. Constitution through reason and common sense, unencumbered by the dysfunctional religious and secular traditions and laws of Old Europe.
            SEEMINGLY, THEN, THE TERM “JUDEO-CHRISTIAN” APPEARS NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION, CORRECT?
            Mark, This is what I was taught in elementary School up through High School and studying our Constitution as a topic of right and wrong and historical interest at an early age (11) and through my grandfathers eyes. He graduated from Harvard Law and was a Judge when I was born, but passed on by the time I was 12 in 1953. In turn, my mother had all his law books and his set of the World Books with the information I would need, that would augment parts of my education. My mother was a political and World War ll news writer in a small town. I had a great view of things from her perspective and my father was a daily student of the Bible, but never pious and they both wanted their 9 children to basically come to their own understandings through study and enlightenment of a world we would eventually have to blend in with. My father was a farmer and he lived by two principals his whole life; The Golden Rule and the works of William Shakespeare. The one he had on his desk, Above all to thine own self be true. from Hamlet. And Goethe tells us; ” If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you” I don’t know any other way to live and I’m too old to change a lot. I’m not perfect, but I try to weigh the issues we face today carefully a nd with common sense. How about you?
            I WISH THERE WERE MORE LIKE YOU; I COULD NEVER “MEASURE UP” [but believe it to be the right way of living and believing].
            BEST ALWAYS,
            me
            P.S. Went go into my entire family’s history [going back to the Prophet Ezra], but will share that my father was decorated with a Presidential Citation for his Naval Service in World War II.
            12:40 p.m., Monday Sept. 11 | Other comments by 12 Summers

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          • 12 Summers

            Yes Mark, you could measure up and do, because you question these things, it is an on-going journey. What an incredible history your family has and how precious it must be for you to pass this on to your children and others.

            My fathers family were German Jews and came to America in the late 1600’s , they came to the new world to help forge a nation of freedom. And you’re right Judeo-Christian isn’t written in the Constitution as worded, but they were the principles the founders leaned on or sought to convey for the duration of America. have you read about them as individuals? What amazing men they were and the women who stood beside them. I liken, them to the great Masters of art, music and the great writers of literature. But what mortal man or men could frame such a document into something that would establish such a nation as ours. In my opinion, they had to be ordained by something or someone much greater than all mankind. Their like will not come our way again, not even the great masters have been duplicated. I had, a professor of religion who was a Hebrew scholar from Cambridge, he traveled the world and to the holy land many times searching for the answers to enlighten others and he had many questions himself during the two years I spent in his classes. He would bring in other holy men like a Rabbi, a Cardinal, Tao, Greek-Orthodox Priest, a Buddhist Monk and other preachers to teach the word as they understood it and through that regardless of background, race, religion or origin, I came to the conclusion we are all God and the Christian Jesus the teacher himself and his Disciples brought the word in person to many lands, but it has all been interrupted just slightly differently and like in the Bhagavad Gita (Indian) or the Torah or the Koran, the word was the same. My mother told me, there were many ways to the Mecca of God and I would ultimately chose one path. It’s where you learn in time, to separate the chaff from the wheat and decide your at-onement with God the Father, the Son and your Holy Spirit on a very personal and individual basis and prayer. I do not attend organized religion or preach, I am however, a constant seeker of knowledge. That knowledge separates us from the ignorance we see or hear daily and we must be ever vigilant and not be taken in by popular or instant demands or false purveyors ” The Hardest Walk is walking alone, but it is also the walk that makes you the strongest” by Lone Wolf even though you may be surrounded by a husband/wife, children/family and friends, the will must be yours.
            My best, Christine

  • Ronald Show

    This is just BS!! They think they have the right to do whatever they want to! The rules and laws of this country don’t apply to them in their minds. If they don’t get their way they file a frivolous lawsuit against someone and claim discrimination. Boo hoo!!! If you cannot assimilate and follow our laws and customs GET OUT!! LEAVE OUR COUNTRY!!! We do not have to accomodate you bc your feelings have been hurt or you were inconvenienced!!

  • drdavis

    Islamic Muslim should not be allowed in this country, Islam is a terrorist organization using religion to be able to our laws and Constitution. We the People need to wake up to this and demand Islam be shut down and that Sharia law is never every considered to be used in this country’s courts.
    You want to sue then you are to identify yourselves and no mask in this country. COWARDS you are and a law suit that should not be allowed. Rules and Laws in this country are to be followed and ISLAMIC Muslims or converted Islamic nuts should be put on the watch list as terrorist this is and evil terrorist organization using religion as a scape goat.. STOP EM is what we need to do.
    They murdered over 3000+ people 16 years ago 9-11 and then Boston bombing and all the other attacks that have taking place in the US and seems no one is paying attention. 9-11 16 years ago Islamic Muslims in Michigan were jumping up and down laughing praising the attack and in our own country we let them get away with this???? What a disgrace every one of them should of been deported. This was not the only State/place this took place here in the USA. There is no such thing as a Peaceful Islamic Muslim or Islamic converts. They have tried to make it appear that way but they lie just as the Quaran tells them to do. So wake up my dear Americans we must start demanding our country be protected against these evil murders and and rid country of such. ISLAM is evil and is a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION who declared war on the USA 09-11-01 and should removed from this country.
    Obama’s Rev. Wright is a good example he was Islam then claimed to convert to Christian but still preached hatred against America, White people, Jews and any one that did not fall in line with Islamic ways and belief. Under the radar he was and the Obama’s spent 20 years under his evil hatred against the USA and its people and laws. Obama had the Islamic brother hood in OUR White House and Jarrett is Islamic sister and so much more. Pathetic and if we do not wake up and stop letting people try and tell us they are not all evil well one day they will kill you if the order is giving. So you have been warned these Islamic believers are evil in every way Period!!!
    Note: Muslims are not all Islamic converts many are God believing Christians so not all Muslims are bad/evil but those that stand by Islam are the terrorist and are to be watched.

  • Humansarecrazy

    Taking America with out firing a shot…These people don’t take prisoners….Wake up time…

  • Humansarecrazy

    Who say’s we can’t deport an Ideology? CAIR?

  • Frank Budz

    About time someone takes a stand against these people that have nothing but disrespect for our laws and customs. Either they integrate into our culture or leave. We are a understanding nation but we should not let so few push their beliefs on everyone.

    • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

      IN NEW YORK WE HAVE A RESPECTABLE NUMBER OF ISLAMIC ADHERENTS. I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANY NEW YORKER CLAIMING THAT OUR MOSLEM BRETHREN WERE PUSHING THEIR BELIEF ON ANYONE, NO LESS “EVERYONE”.

      • Gregg Parker

        What the he!! are “muslim brethren”?

        • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

          ISHMAEL AND YITZCHOK ATTENDED ABBA IBRAHIM’s LEVAYA [as Brethren]. K’VOD OVDICHAH V’ IMACHA.

          • Gregg Parker

            But.. Jacob nave I loved and Esau have I hated… You Sir are an infidel to your brethren… is that just a family squabble?

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            BUT ESAU ISN’T THE PROGENITOR OF OUR ARAB FELLOW-SEMITES, BUT HAS BEEN UTILIZED BY OUR SAGES [both ancient and not so ancient] AS A METAPHOR FOR ROME [a/k/a Europeans, non-Semitics {somehow!}]. AND INDEED I MUST BE AN INFIDEL [K’fir?] AS MANY IN ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND OF VARYING CLAIMED AND PROCLAIMED PHILOSOPHIES HAVE SO DESCRIBED MY “THOUGHTS” [and my character as well].

          • Gregg Parker

            So to risk stepping into waste deep sinking sand I am guessing that “muslim brethren” is the top of an ice berg that would sink the Titanic. Jesus said he who does the will of my Father in Heaven is my mother sisters and brothers. He defined that will on the sermon on the mount and in his rebuke of the Pharisees. If you are suggesting that anyone who hold any sort of faith at all is somehow more than the family of fleshly sinful man, then I would suggest that you are sadly mistaken. The spiritual man is known by his fruit. Can a good tree produce bad fruit? According to biblical scripture it cannot but according to allah it’s fine to lie and destroy for his honor and yours. So what kind of fruit is a suicide bomber, throat cutter, mass shooter, or truck driving mower of pedestrians? I wouldn’t call that good fruit and it most certainly is fruit of a spiritual man… what say you?

          • Mark Lewis Brecker, Esq.

            GREGSKI,
            I BELIEVE THE BABY OUGHT NOT BE THROWN OUT WITH THE BATH WATER [and, perhaps some will think me presumptuous, I am confident you feel similarly/the same]. GLAD YOU HAVE FAITH IN THE CREATOR; WISH IT WERE MORE PREVALENT.

          • Gregg Parker

            You and me both.

  • satcatchet

    Muslims are an inconvenience to the American way of like. Adjust or get out.

  • Loving America

    The mussies planned the whole thing and they should be all rounded up and shipped out with no way of ever returning to America! The Patriots of America do not want such trash in Our Country!

  • Maxine Albritton

    this has nothing to do with religion this has to do with courtesy. All of us with brains know that a business such as this needs to get people taken care of , fed and out and refill the table with new customers. These muslim scumbags are in this for the money they hope to obtain and the more you give in to thise people

    the more they take over; They don’t do this in their country I am sure sit in a restaurant for hours and expect to get away with that if you wish for lenghty conversations eat at home of course this is califl so who knows how it will turn out.

  • iman 3851

    That is the strategy of the religion of piece…use our laws to intrude on our country. No more immigrants from any Muslim east or African countries……

  • kabulgeorge

    Oh, I think they have figured out how to get something for nothing using our legal system very well! They only pick and chose which laws to obey that they chose too and for that they should be held libel for breaking laws they chose not to follow. The real reason they do not want their names published is that their relatives would most likely demand ‘honor killing’ since these hussies were out in public without male supervision! Wouldn’t that be a real shame!

  • Altitude

    It’s just the beginning, folks. Get ready for what’s coming and the corrupt legal profession is complicit in the assault.

    • satcatchet

      Locked & loaded here!

  • Harry Pearson

    It still amazes me that the Muslim population wants special treatment, such as serving Halal meat, but then demand “equality and equity” whenever it serves their purposes. Ya’ can’t have it both ways, folks, so make up your minds!
    Either live by our laws, or go somewhere where either Sharia law is in effect, or there is no law at all and you can start your own.

  • So our Democrat and Republican elites ensured Christian ethics and prayer were banded in schools and all vestiges of faith from the public discourse will now have to abide by Islamic Laws in restaurants or face litigation. God has a sense of humor.

  • satcatchet

    I demand the deportation of ALL people that don’t like the United States of America, muslims included.

    • nocbsfan

      Your demands are granted, start kicking them out.

  • Gregg Parker

    We all have the right to face our accuser, including small businesses being sued by anyone! No precedent can be set here that wouldn’t violate Constitutional rights. The end of this would be Hillary in a burka suing the US to get back the white house curtains, pictures, dishes and silverware they stole fair and square! Manshell would be next to get back the black light posters of Boy George they left in the basement!

  • rick meek

    Since WHEN do GHOSTS get to sue and over what – trespassing……

  • rick meek

    PROOF —- CA needs to go…..

  • Richard Muccillo MDDCM

    frivolous–counter

  • Frank W Brown

    Take the money needed for the trial and use it to send these idiots back to the sandbox they came from!

  • old_salty_dawg99

    I wonder how long it will be before the LIBERAL MORONS of America will start screaming that this is nothing but RACISM. These women and their Kaeyer(s) should be sued for wasting the court’s time and taxpayer’s money when they loose the lawyers should be disbarred for life and they and the women should be made to pay all Court costs and legal fees times ten. Sadly this IGNORANCE is being given time in Court when it should have been thrown out as what it is STUPIDITY run amok.

  • 45 Minutes later??? And they won’t share the space??? Seems like they were TRYING to cause a problem……

  • Lizard

    More proof Muslim can not get along with American people or abide by our laws.. Get out of America now, enough of muslim crap

  • Dale P Patterson

    A pity Christians and Jews are not afforded similar courtesies in their home countries.

  • This issue is sort of a sticky wicket. On the one hand,the First Amendment gives them a right to uphold their beliefs. ON the other hand, it goes against the Constitution on the secular side. Sharia law does not override the US Constitution.

  • If I were one of the defendant employee’s, I would be suing these 7 women (?) for defamation of character. If possible, so should the restaurant! This is simply another example of to too far overboard this country has saddled up to “political correctness.” Such as the left, when they can’t come up with a sensible charge against Republicans, they throw out the fall-back claim of bigotry. So now “Islamophobic” now the carrion call of the left & Muslims.

  • therealworld

    Well then, Muslims Failing to Kiss My A** is Discriminatory…..

    • nocbsfan

      maybe you should try lipstick first !

  • therealworld

    I say give each muslim a Tranny and send them back where they belong, Fixes

    messes

  • StandandFight

    Leave or die muslim scum. Call me a bigot because today 9/11 I hate you [email protected]#r goathhumpers

  • Cliona

    Don’t we have pesticides to exterminate this vermin? These rag heads make me sick to my stomach and I am tired of all the special treatment they receive. After 9/11 I am now molested by a TSA agent every time I get on a plane. If I did that to another person, I would be arrested. Why they are allowed to keep flooding into OUR country, I will never understand.

  • Doc

    At issue is the “lawsuit”……if the defendants prevail against these Muslim ladies, then they can counter sue for legal fees and defamation of character, which could be a VERY expensive proposition. If allowing them to be “anonymous” they can do considerable damage and promote lies against the restaurant without ever identifying themselves,…..what a clever trick. They can accuse but the restaurant cannot respond.
    Kudos to the restaurant owner/staff for countersuing. In today’s culture, most either don’t have the financial resources or “guts” to countersue people like this. I’m hoping the judge finds their case groundless and the restaurant sues for defamation of character, pain & suffering to their employees, loss of income, expenses, and all legal fees so those “creeples” (creepy people) find out the hard way what it cost to falsely accuse someone in this country.
    But, I also pray for a judge that just won’t “wash his hands” of the situation with a “no harm done” like it seems the Federal judges are doing across the country when handling Antifa thugs, voter fraud issues on the Left, and a host of other Left-wing orchestrated issues.

  • Doc

    At issue is the “lawsuit”……if the defendants prevail against these Muslim ladies, then they can counter sue for legal fees and defamation of character, which could be a VERY expensive proposition. If allowing them to be “anonymous” they can do considerable damage and promote lies against the restaurant without ever identifying themselves,…..what a clever trick. They can accuse but the restaurant cannot respond.
    Kudos to the restaurant owner/staff for countersuing. In today’s culture, most either don’t have the financial resources or “guts” to countersue people like this. I’m hoping the judge finds their case groundless and the restaurant sues for defamation of character, pain & suffering to their employees, loss of income, expenses, and all legal fees so those “creeples” (creepy people) find out the hard way what it cost to falsely accuse someone in this country.
    But, I also pray for a judge that just won’t “wash his hands” of the situation with a “no harm done” like it seems the Federal judges are doing across the country when handling Antifa thugs, voter fraud issues on the Left, and a host of other Left-wing orchestrated issues.

  • James B. Sallee

    As a soldier I took an oath to protect America, and the constitution, not any other law. I’m retired now but that oath is still in effect in my mind and my heart.

    • Naval Lint

      We were not told, upon our discharge, that our oaths were fulfilled. They are valid yet!

  • Steve G.

    If this women win any money the FBI better watch where it goes.

  • JWH (NRA LIFE)

    An example of “HOW OBAMA Wanted” to convert this society to a “Muslim controlled Country controlled by Muslim Laws”!! If the Muslim people can’t assimilate in this Society and Laws, then they can go back to where they came from and enjoy Life there!! They are “NOT WANTED HERE WITH THEIR DEMANDS”!!! Preserve our LAWS as they exist, they work well as is!!!

  • Rolpho Signetti

    Did we not see this before with ILLEGAL ALIENS from MEXICO? First they come here… work. Then the liberals see they are a potential voter bloc… stir up resentment to the right. Poof! Millions of Ex-Christians, family people transformed into Change America into a duplicate of Failed Mexico!

    Is this not a repeat with the Muslims? The liberals have been selling out America for years! But in true 1984(ish) fashion, they double speak, spin the facts. Good people are always welcomed to the USA. But not as dupes of the Socialist left.

    Got to watch Hillary on the view this week! See what kinda love fest they give her! Shoot em all! Whoopie pretends she is fair, equal minded about President Trump! But she will not even say his name! That is fair?

  • michael schimanski

    The slimey pigs should not be in our country anyway . Ship the slimes out of America , ALL the slimes .

  • ADBDAB

    Another group of Muslims wanting to sue a restaurant. Since it is California, they will probably get away with it. Those on the left bend over backwards for the Muslims. I think Muslims need to go back from where they came from. They want Sharia Law, time to pray while they are supposed to have their butts working.

  • Carole

    I read an article the other day that reported several Michigan schools are cowing down to Muslims who are demanding a “special place” to pray during school hours. The schools are providing the place in order to avoid conflict even though they are NOT providing a “special place” for other religions. This is the Muslim way. Intimidate, Demand, and Threaten.

  • Willie the 6’snake in the barn

    How about an anonymous leak via a piece of paper with their names on it or see if a leftist news source wants to turn over that info. I guess you can say they are all named muhamed but they are female and I dont know the name of muhameds UNDER AGED pedophile forced bride.So who is to say.
    FOIA people.LMFAO

  • Fedup

    I wonder if the liberals will ever start vilifying Muslims and their “Muslim privilege” like they have whites with the “white privilege” BS.

    • Yarbles

      No. Globalist Plan.

      • Fedup

        Wishful thinking. 😞

  • Beeker D.

    Women and Muslim; No Bigger Problem Would/Could There Be, Unless They Were Black As Well!

  • parthenon1

    Send these people back to their home countries they need to understand we don’t allow any nations laws to be kept here only our own !

  • America laws and economic policies weren’t set up purely for islamics. The word they need to learn is assimilation, and if they don’t care to do this the airports are waiting.

  • Sylvia Avila

    If they Do Not Like our Laws Leave!!! Muslin bastards! Or deport them Now! period!

  • Kenneth Fichtl

    In New York You can sue anyone for anything . I went fishing off the Staten Island Ferry. I am from Colorado so I love trout. I used Earth worms and caught nothing. I sued the Worms and the City of New York for not stocking Trout in the Hudson. I won. The city spent Millions stocking the west side with trout before they realized they were a fresh water fish. I won meals at every location in the city. I got nothing from the Worms. What Laws ? Only Lawyers

  • Jim Richardson

    Happy muslim day

  • Maynard

    I salute this restaurant owner. These people come to the US and want us to change to suit them but everyone know that in their own country they are about as valuable as a cow or a rabid dog. I can image what the reception would be if a group of American women were to go to Saudi Arabia and demand something.

  • Bill Harrison

    An attempt to force acceptance of anything Muslims want thru the liberal courts. Intimidation.

  • katfan

    I’m pretty sure that U.S. law says that the accused can face their accuser. So, these Muslim women can’t have it both ways. Either they drop their law suit, or give up their identities. If they refuse, the case should be thrown out of court.

  • ROBERT WAYNE

    This whole thing smells like it was cooked up by these muslim maggots as a way to steal money from what they call ‘infidels’. I pray that some left wing judge doesn’t go along with their thievery.

  • Spunky

    Go back to mecca – you will be happier there anyway

  • Don Lindsey

    Isn`t there a law against wearing a mask in the USA!

  • Lorayn

    Settlement jihad… muslims are not special and not exempt from abiding by US law… if u do not like it go back to the country you came from…

    TAKE AWAY THEIR RELIGIOUS/charity STATUS
    THEY ARE A FOREIGN IDEOLOGICAL STATE WITHIN OUR NATION…

    It is about settlement jihad of America. Foreign barbaric Ideological state under the guise of religious freedom/exemption/charity status to overthrow a SOVEREIGN NATION…

    20 questions to ask burka wearers
    https://youtu.be/7I-C3cBgOn8

    Mohammed’s Koran: Why Muslims kill for Islam by Tommy Robinson
    https://www.amazon.com/Mohammeds-Koran-Muslims-Kill-Islam/dp/154262780X

    Genital Mutilation now a felony in Michigan
    http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2017/07/11/snyder-signs-bills-making-female-genital-mutilation-felony-michigan/468809001/

    Jihadi takeover of America
    https://youtu.be/PRftECttNp8

    Myth Busted: Sharia v. Sharia Law
    https://youtu.be/rPVt4iyAwnw

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  • Herb1949

    islam requires that ALL muslims do everything they can to make the whole world islam. There is NO allowance for other religions in the koran. No allowance for tolerance of others beliefs. It is complete control and sharia law only. This is completely anti-ethical to the constitution, our laws and the beliefs of the citizens of this country.
    Therefore there is no way that a real muslim can be a real american. Flat out impossible.

    • Your damn right. And that same woman that had them in tears will be wearing a suicide belt in the Thanksgiving Day parade. Those people adhere to that rules of satan book chapter and verse. It’s like the line from the Green Mile where the court appointed lawyer tells Tom Hanks about the dog not bitting you the first time, but you will get bitten. If you’ve seen the movie.

    • Californiasailor

      Just let a few naked prostitutes waltz in front of their eyes…they are supposed to kill themselves because of their eyes committing Sin. Now that is a great strategy…..LOL

      Want to see the Clinton Cartel? Here you have plenty of information….technology opens doors politicians did not realize they were there…

      https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=The+Clinton+Cartel

  • Lysek

    California legislature voted in that the communist party is a legitimate party.

    • hankthetank

      Democrat party !!!

  • hankthetank

    They play, good cop & bad cop !! they play good, UNTIL their aman, tells them to do BAD!! remember Nidal Hasan, ( fort hood ) he was born here, went to school here, went to military school became a Lt. Cornel ,then KILLED 13 & wounded 52, when his Amon told him to do BAD !!!

  • Murphmeister

    Their house, their rules.

  • Smash Islamophobia

    They have to go back.

  • Rolpho Signetti

    They ain’t left yet?

  • Martin Alonso Zuniga

    When in muslim countries you are compelled forcibly to follow their rules or be penalized, but when those people come to USA our rules must be bent because of what??

  • Californiasailor

    Will send you as well LOL….Oh you poor soul….