Left Hyperventilates Over Trump’s Commission to Investigate Vote Fraud

(Quin Hillyer, Liberty Headlines) Liberal groups spewed cries of outrage Thursday as President Trump announced he would create a commission to examine the integrity of voter systems in the United States.

STUDY: Voter ID Suppression of Minority Turnout Not Proven

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Conservatives have long claimed that vote fraud is a widespread threat in various jurisdictions across the country. Liberals have long said vote fraud is virtually nonexistent, but that voter suppression is rampant.

A group called Asian Americans Advancing Justice called the commission a “pretext for finding ways to intimidate and suppress voting in communities of color, particularly among Asian American, African American, and Latino voters,” and “nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to curtail drastically the legitimate voting rights of Americans.”

Likewise, the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law accused Trump of citing “unfounded claims of voter fraud” and said he “is trying to create a distraction from actual threats to our democracy, such as ongoing voter suppression and Russia’s interference in the 2016 election.”

The president and executive director of the Lawyers Committee is Kristen Clarke, an Obama campaign donor who while working for the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund reportedly urged the Justice Department to drop its voter-intimidation case against two New Black Panthers who wielded nightsticks outside a Philadelphia polling place.

The Lawyers Committee and other groups blasted the selection of Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach as vice-chairman of the new commission, with Dale Ho of the ACLU calling Kobach “the king of voter suppression” and U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez, Democrat of Illinois, blasting Kobach as an “enemy of American democracy.”

And the League of Women Voters, long ago having moved from a neutral outfit to a liberal one, issued a release saying “Commission members’ views on elections are well known and have been discredited as political ideologues with dangerous agendas. This is part of a wider effort to suppress the vote, keep certain politicians in power, and undermine our elections by spreading falsehoods.”

(Ideological case in point: Earlier this spring the League had celebrated the temporary collapse of the Republican health care bill by claiming somehow that “millions of lives [will be] saved” because of the bill’s apparent failure.)

Kobach is a hard-liner against illegal immigration and a well-known advocate of strict voter-identification requirements. Despite numerous attacks from liberal groups during his first term in office, he was re-elected statewide in Kansas in 2014 with a huge, 19-point margin.

Conservatives say that plenty of vote-fraud already has been proven, and that plenty more goes either uncaught or unprosecuted. The Heritage Foundation is compiling a massive data-base of vote-fraud convictions (in this story, look about halfway down to a link to the PDF), and the Public Interest Legal Foundation has kept tabs on both conviction and on documented abuses (of one kind or another) ignored by federal officials, usually under the Obama regime.

Heritage’s Hans von Spakovsky and National Review’s John Fund have written two editions of a book and numerous articles detailing numerous problems with ballot security across the country – including the time that voter registration material was mailed to a dead goldfish named Princess Nudelman.

Conservatives thus largely welcomed the new commission, but generally did not cheer it anywhere nearly as vigorously as liberal booed. Typical of the reserved-but-hopeful response was that of Hot Air’s Ed Morrissey, who said this could be a good opportunity for “a serious effort to research the issue, present an honest and balanced picture of the status quo, and offers realistic and effective measures for states to implement to secure the voting process.”

The president’s new commission is supposed to analyze all this information in a neutral, verifiable manner, and compile data usable for reformers. With Kobach as vice chairman of the commission and Vice President Mike Pence as its chairman, liberals have cried foul, but the overall commission is designed to be bipartisan, with two Democratic statewide officeholders (the Secretaries of State of New Hampshire and Maine) on board as well. Most commission members have yet to be named.

  • ProudPatriot

    No legal voter should ever be hassled for the way they vote. But if you’re illegal, or can’t legally vote the government has every right to charge you with voter fraud

    • Nicodemus

      The only “Voter Suppression” I am aware of was where the Black Panthers turned people away from the polls in Philadelphia if it appeared they weren’t going to vote for O’Vomit. As for the 7 million illegal votes in California and the other illegal votes elsewhere….prosecute them, ban them for life from ever voting again, and use their Fines ($1000 per fraudulent vote sounds about right) to pay down the National Debt! Win-Win!

      • Made_in_the_USA

        Or simply deport them back to Mexico…I believe that’s where most of those illegal voters hailed from!

        • lordhoff

          They just return.

          • FlameonMe

            Few will come back with a wall. And returning on a plane ticket won’t work once they have been deported.

          • AKLady

            Really?
            How do you figure that?

      • AKLady

        No such thing happened.
        Why do you repeat lies?
        The infantile name calling is very impressive.

        • Preco

          You are the one who is lying. There are pictures of the Panthers with clubs and this was a highly documented incident. You must be the Paid Troll on duty today. Good try, Stooge.

          • AKLady

            Yes, it was a recorded incident.
            However, you have it backwards.
            You don’t much care for facts.

          • Sueja

            They tried to bring charges but Obama stopped them

        • Sueja

          Felons were allowed to vote and the judge that overturned those who tried to stop it was a Clinton appointee.

          • AKLady

            In some states, people can regain their voting rights.
            In other states, they cannot.

        • Nicodemus

          The conduct for which members of the New Black Panther Party were accused of voter intimidation took place on Election Day in November 2008, at a polling station in a predominantly African-American, Democratic voting district of Philadelphia.[2]

          Two members of the New Black Panther party, Minister King Samir Shabazz, and Jerry Jackson, stood in front of the entrance to the polling station in uniforms that have been described as military or paramilitary.[3][4][5] Minister King Shabazz carried a billy club, and is reported to have pointed it at voters while both men shouted racial slurs,[6] including phrases such as “white devil” and “you’re about to be ruled by the black man, cracker.”[7]

          The incident drew the attention of police, who around 10:00 am, sent King Samir away in part because of his billy club. Jackson was allowed to stay, in part because he was a certified poll watcher.[8] Stephen Robert Morse, a journalist and filmmaker, upon arriving at the scene, pulled out a Flip video camera and focused on Samir Shabazz. Morse turned over the video of the incident to ElectionJournal.org.[9] The incident gained national attention after being uploaded to YouTube.[3] No complaints were filed by voters about the incident, although poll watchers witnessed some voters approach the polls and then turn away, apparently in response to the New Black Panther Party members.[10]

          SOURCE: WIkipedia (lots more out there…if you can enough to inform yourself!)

          • FlameonMe

            AKLady, did you read this post by Nicodemus? Will you acknowledge that what you said was wrong? Or will you just go on to other topics?

            First you say no such thing happened….then you say “its backwards” … and then you ignore proof and comment on something else.

            When will you look in the mirror and admit that you are just…wrong?

          • Derek

            Oh she will never do that the doc knows everything. And if you disagree or prove her wrong over and over and over. Then you are a childish mean person lol

          • AKLady

            Suggest you actually read the article. You might also want to read some of the 56 citations.

          • AKLady

            Under the Bush Administration, a criminal investigation into the incident was started, but later dropped.

          • AKLady

            The Black Panther case had been receiving more coverage from conservative media outlets than from other ones ….[49]

            Republican Linda Chavez described the video as damning but relatively minor. She stated that because the story has pictures, it was the kind of story that you can run over and over again [53]

          • Nicodemus

            Fair enough…and when was the last documented case of white people keeping blacks from voting? 60 years ago? If the Black Panthers case matters not, then the entire point is moot. How about focusing on a GENUINE problem….such as MILLIONS of dead and illegals voting and Demonrats voting more than once! Fraud like this requires massive fines, prison time, deportation, Voter ID laws and purging of dead people from voter lists!

          • AKLady

            We the People do not elect a President.
            We the People have never elected a President.
            We the People cannot elect President — the Constitution does not permit us to do so.

            Suggest you learn how your government actually functions.

            Start with the Electoral College.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States)

    • AKLady

      Jurisdiction is the issue.
      It is a state crime.
      The federal government has no business butting their head in.

      • Sueja

        It was a federal election

        • AKLady

          What federal election might that be?

          • FlameonMe

            AKLady – that made no sense.

          • AKLady

            You vote for a state Elector, not the President.

          • Derek

            Doc when we vote we vote for a person! Anyone who has EVER voted knows that! The amount of votes for any persons on the ballots decides the elector. Why do you try to make simple thing sound so complicated? Have you ever opened a person’s skull to treat an ingrown toenail?

          • AKLady

            I’m not a brain surgeon.

        • AKLady

          Take an American Government class.

      • Derek

        When states deliberately ignore federal laws because they don’t like them. Then yes the federal government does need to step in and set them straight.

  • 27633171

    Isn’t it strange that the Left is so afraid of some unknown hackers defrauding the election results, but could care less about dead people and illegal aliens casting votes that could actually effect the results of an election. They have no problems with actual tampering as long as the result is favorable to them. Again, the American people have much more to fear from the Socialist Democrats and their media propaganda accomplices than they do from some unknown hackers in Russia.

    • AKLady

      It is a state crime.
      The federal government has no business butting their head in.

      • Sueja

        It’s a federal election

        • AKLady

          You vote for an State Elector, not a President.

          • FlameonMe

            You vote for the President from state elections infrastructure. State buildings. State volunteers. State commissioners on elections. For a Federal election. Your last comment made no sense.

            So Of COURSE the federal government needs to ensure the integrity of state elections.

            Why? Are you concerned the commission will uncover the Democrats committing massive voter fraud, and that is why you protest?

          • AKLady

            We the People do not elect a President.
            We the People have never elected a President.
            We the People cannot elect President — the Constitution does not permit us to do so.

            Suggest you learn how your government actually functions. Start with the Electoral College.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States)

          • Derek

            Lmao the electoral college is made up of votes by we the people doc. You really are entertaining you make it sound like the government uses a magic 8 ball or something? Lol Happy mothers day doc.

          • AKLady

            No, it is not.
            I gave you the link.
            Why don’t you use it instead of making a fool of yourself.

            Here is another eye-opening link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016

          • RickFromDetroit

            I have said for years that we need a National ID Card for every citizen. This would be an extension of the state drivers license program. If you want to vote, show your National ID Card, Then we have one vote per ID Card.

          • AKLady

            There are no national/federal elections.
            You already have a federal ID number, it is call a Social Security Number.

      • Ron Alford

        When it affects the federal government, it’s a federal crime.

        • AKLady

          And just what do you think you are voting for?
          There are no national elections.

    • Louie Rey

      You just reminded me of my election experience. I’ve voted in the same middle school in my neighborhood for however long and during that time I’ve become acquainted with a woman who obviously is always assigned to my street. I’ve always kidded with her in the past so when I signed in and she recognized my name she smiled. After signing in she gave me my ballot to fill out and I asked her, “Is this where the deplorables vote?” She said, “Stop it!” After filling out my ballot I went around to her side of the table because that’s where the voting machine was, right next to her. After casting my vote I leaned down to her and asked her, “What time do the caskets get rolled in so the dead people can vote?” She said, “Get out of here!” I love that woman.

  • John Abril

    This is the only way the Left ever won using voter fraud

    • Mark

      I’m for suppressing every illegal vote that can be suppressed.

  • David Verrinder

    Me and my dogs are always in disagreement,they keep voting Democrat

    • Naval Lint

      I’ve noticed that my Staffie has serious snowflake tendencies as well. It must be a dog thing. Maybe the Dems need to change their trademark from a jackass to a dog humping a leg?

  • Karen

    Does anyone know of any case of REAL voter suppression against someone legally allowed to vote? I’m not being sarcastic, I really can’t recall any cases. I haven’t always had my eyes on politics (till the last 2 election cycles) so I may have missed something that would apply.

    • Mark

      My answer is no. But I may not have all of the information needed to be certain that I’m correct.

    • MidclassTaxpayr

      Right. I want that claim PROVEN; otherwise, drop it!

    • Naval Lint

      Black Panthers with clubs, chasing away voters, is JUST ONE example. People have been CAUGHT voting multiple time and voting in more than one state. Would THIS be applicable or is this just “Dems doing business as usual”?

  • Donald Lindsey

    Liberal groups spewed cries of outrage a “pretext for finding ways to intimidate and suppress voting in communities of color, particularly among Asian American, African American, and Latino voters,” and “nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to curtail drastically the legitimate voting rights of Americans.”
    We all know that the Socialistic Democrat have violated and voted several time per election and are the first to cry foul when any investigation into voter fraud. This has been proven as FACTS against the corruption within our Federal Government.
    The one thing that the media still fails to admit if the proven facts that the Muslim Obama and the Socialistic Democrats under handedly set up over 36 Muslim Terrorist Training Camps across these United States and are giving them tax payer money to live on, protecting them, arming them with Full automatic weapon which is Illegal for any American to own and suppling with explosive for bombs to attack any American and city. This is still going on today under Obama and the Socialistic Democratic Party. No Obama is not president but he still in charge of the Camps.

    • MidclassTaxpayr

      True! An investigation needs to be conducted into THAT!

  • Richard Kubena

    The democrats/liberals/leftist should be welcoming Trumps newly formed commission that is going to look into voting fraud activities or claims because if there is no fraudulent activities found that would prove them to be right and they would have a bully pulpit to support their claims, but on the other hand if voting fraud is found then those democrats/liberals/leftist will have a lot to answer for. The democrats/liberals/leftist as usual are having a meltdown and are playing their well used race card against Presidents Trumps voting fraud commission and crying foul which comes as no surprise because whenever they don’t get their way or feel threatened by exposure they use either the race card or sexism against whatever or whoever it is that they don’t agree with. There is and has been voter fraud discovered and with this new commission to look into those cases it will be found that voting fraud is much larger than realized and that is what the democrats/liberals and leftist are so afraid of.

    • MidclassTaxpayr

      In short, they fear their illegal voting will be curtailed.

  • bill14729 .

    Maybe the lady in the picture above only voted once but the next question is is she here legally as well as many other Voters with out Voter ID

  • RB

    The idea of voter fraud generally comes up every four years or so at the presidential elections, and with Democrats in control for the last several years, nothing is done about it. Dem/liberals say it doesn’t happen, Rep/conservatives say it does.
    Every time it comes up we hear the same arguments or excuses why we shouldn’t have voter ID. The usual arguments are that it discriminates against minorities, the poor, and the aged. It allegedly puts an undue strain on these people for a variety of reasons: it discriminates against minorities–the cost–the inconvenience–the very old have a hard time traveling to get ID–and others.
    Most of these reasons are ridiculous. Minorities have no trouble getting ID’s for welfare, driver’s licenses, check cashing cards, etc.
    The cost factor could be done away with by giving government funded help to get the proper ID. I’m sure that there are also many lawyers that would do this pro bono or many sources of private donations would help in this.
    As far as the aged having difficulties traveling, I’m sure that many volunteers would gladly take them to the voter ID center, or in extreme cases other arrangements could be make.
    In short, there is no problem that could not be overcome with a little help from the government, volunteers, or private donations.
    We now have almost four years until the next election. That gives us almost four years to address these concerns. You can’t tell me that the greatest nation in the world can’t fix the relatively minor technical difficulties of making sure that our elections are secure.
    The Democrats right now are crying about possible Russian influences in this last election. Why aren’t they worried about possible voter fraud in the next? That is unless they are using voter fraud to further their agenda.
    Other than that, I can see no problem that cannot be overcome, or no reason why each and every American would not want to see a safe, secure election that absolutely every American has the right to vote in.

    • chris VN

      Issuing free certified copies of ” lost ” birth certificates would solve many problems.

      • Made_in_the_USA

        Can we start with obama’s real BC, which was intentionally ‘lost’ or misplaced (hidden) so we would never find out who he really is.

        • MidclassTaxpayr

          I just read a startling piece yesterday that explains his mysterious past, his real birthplace and name, and why he was placed in the oval office as our “president.” It seems his real name is neither Obama, nor Soetoro, but Soebarkah, on a visa of his mother’s, and he was born in neither Hawaii nor Kenya, but in Indonesia, I believe…which means he is NOT a natural-born citizen of the U.S. I didn’t get too far into it, because it was downright scary. However, his past is shrouded in mystery and fraudulent birth certificates that give anyone pause to believe he’s legit. Add to all that, the accounts of some of those who were in high school with him, and it makes one wonder if he even exists as who he pretends to be.

    • xjcv8jag

      RB well said. I am an old, well really old, retired vet and I would be willing to volunteer ( meaning no cost to the tax payer and less cost to the gov )my time to go around to older folks or handicapped people to assist them in getting proper ID. After all isn’t helping people part of what the United States is all about. Seems to me that was a major part of my military job.
      Speaking of that maybe we should make serving in congress a volunteer job, maybe more would get done. Think about that. Wasn’t it that way when we started ???

      • MidclassTaxpayr

        I’ve heard government accommodations for the underprivileged have already been suggested. The left simply doesn’t want actions to be taken that secure our elections.

        • AKLady

          ..Unless provided free, it is an illegal poll tax.

          • Sueja

            It’s free

          • FlameonMe

            It’s free. I’ve had a birth certificate and a SSN all my life. Where’s yours?

          • AKLady

            In that case, you were born in a hospital and your parents had to apply for your SSN in order to claim you as a dependent on their income tax. That says you are probably under 50 years old, probably under 40.

          • FlameonMe

            58, thanks. And again, you lack credibility.

          • AKLady

            No, you just lack knowledge — huge chunks of it.

      • MidclassTaxpayr

        It started out that those who served in Congress would be compensated, but that they would serve their terms and then go back home. No pensions, no other perks. That sure has changed with their ability to vote themselves raises, etc.!

      • RB

        Thank you xjcv8jag for your comments and your willingness to volunteer. I’m sure that there would be an outpouring of people on both sides willing to volunteer to make sure that everyone who is eligible to vote can vote.
        If there are any legal fees in acquiring legal papers, the government should waive any fee. There are already many services who transport disabled for medical treatment, why couldn’t this be widened to include transportation for someone to register to vote?
        The same people that Democrats claim that for some reason or another can’t provide an ID have no trouble providing an ID for check cashing, welfare benefits, or any number of other services that require identification. There is absolutely nothing that cannot be overcome to assure that all LEGALLY ELIGIBLE US CITIZENS are able to vote.
        The problem is, and we all know it, is that all of this is an excuse by the left to allow voter fraud to exist in order to gain votes for their side. There are hundreds of documented cases of voter fraud and many are serving jail terms. This may or not be just the tip of the iceberg, but whatever the outcome, I applaud President Trump for authorizing this commission.
        The US has become the laughing stock of the whole world for a couple of reasons. For one, it is practically unheard of for a country that supports free elections not to have some sort of means to identify who is legally allowed to vote. The other is that all countries have the right to enforce their borders.
        But thanks to the Democrats we have no means to verify that anyone who votes is actually a US citizen and we have unprotected borders.
        Thankfully we now have a real president who is taking steps to correct those problems. We need to secure our borders and also we need to make sure that every LEGAL US CITIZEN who wants to vote CAN VOTE.
        We have almost four years till the next election. There is absolutely no reason why this cannot be corrected by 2020.

        • AKLady

          Requiring voter ID is illegal.
          There are these laws about poll taxes.

          • Mark V

            I have lived in three states and always been asked to show a voter ID whenever I vote.

          • AKLady

            Then the ID was free.

          • Mark V

            Not in Florida, you pay a fee for a drivers permit.

          • AKLady

            Florida accepts a number of ID forms, many of which are available without charge. If a state-issued ID was the only form accepted, it would be issued free.
            .
            Poll taxes are illegal.
            They are a form of voter suppression, and were outlawed decades in the past.

          • FlameonMe

            Voters need to be identified. You have a problem with identifying who a voter is? Why?

          • AKLady

            Poll taxes are illegal.
            They are a form of voter suppression.
            Poll taxes were outlawed decades in the past.

          • FlameonMe

            You are complaining about something that doesn’t exist.

          • AKLady

            When did facts become complaints?
            If the ID must be purchased, it is a poll tax.

          • AKLady

            If the identification must be purchased,
            it is an illegal poll tax.

          • FlameonMe

            A birth certificate in the USA is not purchased. You KNOW that but you typed something else than the truth anyway.

          • AKLady

            Oh and silly one, no state provides free, certified copies of birth certificates. In Alaska that copy costs $30.00. For the marriage license copy a women needs for proof of her name change, the cost is $60.00

          • FlameonMe

            “Requiring voter ID is illegal.” Just where did you find proof for that? Your own backside? What US Code or State Law or just ANYTHING did you refer to to come with such a profoundly wrong sentence?

    • MidclassTaxpayr

      Amen! And further, if they’re worried about Russians interfering in our elections, Hillary actually HAD provable ties with the Russians, with her uranium deals! Perhaps they interfered in her favor by getting her those fabled “three million popular votes” by which she supposedly outnumbered those of Trump!

      • Texas Belle

        Amen to that.

    • AKLady

      Unless provided free, it is an illegal poll tax.

      • FlameonMe

        Don’t conflate the need for identifying who a person is with a tax. You are purposefully confusing the two.

        • AKLady

          Anything you must purchase in order to vote is a “pole tax” You need to inform yourself of the law better..

          • FlameonMe

            It is spelled “poll”. Study.

            And you are conflating something that doesn’t exist with the solution to voters fraud. We don’t need your ideas.

    • Mark V

      Raises the question as to what the community organizers are doing with the taxpayer money they get. They are supposed to help people in their communities, as in helping them register to vote.

    • Sueja

      Federal id’s are being required to fly and they are looking at machines to dispense medical marijuana and you will need an I’d to use it. Why aren’t the dems yelling about that?

    • FlameonMe

      Perfectly said. It should be read verbatim to Congress.

  • Gale

    Let the civil war happen. I’m more than ready.

  • Gale

    thereligionofpeace.com

  • Old Salt

    The whole Russia thing is a typical diversion. The left has you looking through the stuffings in an empty bedroom mattress, while they’ve been stealing the silverware out of your china closet. The problem the left has, is they hung their hat on the false Russia narrative, which has been found to be without merit, and now they’re stuck with it, it’s all they had and now they’re stuck in the corner with nothing but an empty bucket and a brush, screaming “cover-up.” In the meantime, paper ballots disappear, voting machines change your vote, illegals vote dead people by proxy, while we’ve got mattress stuffings all over our faces…or is that egg?

    • MidclassTaxpayr

      Excellent analogies!

  • CSN

    It’s about time this has been properly investigated. Millions of votes have been fraudulently cast and non-citizens do NOT have the right to vote. Amnesty has been the Democratic narrative for years, because they’re destroying their own ranks with Abortion and Planned Barrenhood. President Trump is acting with a real understanding of the issues at hand. Stuffing ballot boxes has to end but the Democrats call it voter suppression…ridiculous at best.

  • Al Chemist

    Those pathetic screams and rants from the hysterical left are true in a way. It is voter suppression. They are trying to:

    (1) Suppress democrats from voting more than once.
    (2) Suppress “non-citizen” voters from voting.
    (3) Suppress those citizens who vote in more than one state.
    (4) Suppress dead democrats from voting.
    (5) Suppress criminals from voting.
    (6) Suppress voter intimidation by groups such as the Black Panthers and BLM.

    and so on.

    • Ron C

      And dead republicans that now vote democrat.

    • Fed up!

      Al
      Well said perspective, if you do not mind I like to use that when making a point to idiots.

    • MidclassTaxpayr

      JUSTIFIED voter suppression!

  • CSN

    Voter Fraud = How the Left was Won.

  • Gary

    The only reason to oppose voter ID is because you want to cheat. So, those who are opposing voter ID are cheaters who don’t want to get caught, or prevented from cheating.

    • MidclassTaxpayr

      AMEN! Those playing by the rules would have no problem with voter ID! True Americans know it’s the only way to ensure that only LEGAL CITIZENS vote in our elections!

      • AKLady

        If it must be paid for, I will fight it every way possible.
        Poll taxes are illegal. have been for decades.

        • lordhoff

          If they drive, have a bank account, use a motel, buying a car, or any of the other legions of things that require ID, then they already have one. If they don’t, they need to get one unless they are trying to hide illegal status. It is not a poll tax as it is not only for voting and is a basic requirement for life in modern times.

          • AKLady

            There are many people in this country who do not have those items, or any need for them. They live miles from any license agency. There is no public transportation for then to use. They have no need for identification. They have no need for a bank account.

          • FlameonMe

            I doubt what you say is even partially true. Every citizen is issued a social security number and a birth certificate. If they lost theirs then there are ways to apply for a replacement. Next.

          • AKLady

            Your ignorance of rural America is immense.
            Your ignorance of poverty in America is immense.
            The assumptions you have made are invalid.
            <ay I suggest you obtain a better education.

          • FlameonMe

            Disprove what I said then.

          • AKLady

            Suggest you educate yourself further in regard to rural Mississippi and Appalachian region. Poverty that you apparently are unaware of.
            Trends in Out-of-Hospital Births in the United States, 1990–2012 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db144.htm

            Getting a photo ID so you can vote is easy. Unless you’re poor, black, Latino or elderly https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/getting-a-photo-id-so-you-can-vote-is-easy-unless-youre-poor-black-latino-or-elderly/2016/05/23/8d5474ec-20f0-11e6-8690-f14ca9de2972_story.html?utm_term=.067a96dff5a3

            Citizens Without Proof: A Survey of Americans’ Possession of Documentary Proof of Citizenship and Photo Identification http://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/legacy/d/download_file_39242.pdf

            Why Millions of Americans Have No Government IDhttp://www.npr.org/2012/02/01/146204308/why-millions-of-americans-have-no-government-id

          • FlameonMe

            If they are too stupid or incompetent to obtain a free SSN or birth certificate, then they are too stupid and incompetent to vote.

          • AKLady

            Well, that demonstrates how little you know about America’s rural poverty. They don’t vote for the same reason they lack “official” identification. They have no need for the id. Distrust of government is markedly high.
            Abject rural poverty: No electricity, no running water, no indoor toilets, no gas stoves, no air conditioning, no mail delivery, no supermarkets no doctors, no hospitals, no schools … Appalachia, rural Mississippi, rural Alabama, rural Texas…

          • FlameonMe

            So what? Just because poor people exist doesn’t mean the federal government can’t mandate a voters ID. Even the Philippines has voters ID cards. Do you somehow think the USA can’t do this? You have the usual libtarded motivation. We see right through you.

          • AKLady

            Only if the identification is provided free of charge.
            If there is a charge, it becomes an illegal poll tax.
            That game has been played before.
            It was outlawed by Congress.
            It violates the Constitution.

          • FlameonMe

            Whatever. Go feed your herd of cats and stop bothering us here. You are talking nonsense, as usual.

          • AKLady2015

            I suggest you obtain a better education.
            You are embarrassing yourself, as well as America.
            Suggest you learn what a “poll tax” is, and why it is illegal.
            Suggest you r3qd the 15th and 24th Amendments,

          • AKLady

            You are desperately in need of a better education.
            Your knowledge of poverty in America is extremely deficient.

            You are not “issued” a Social Security Number.
            Either you, or your parents must apply for one.
            .
            Birth certificates only exist if the birth is reported.
            Many Americans are born at home and their births are not recorded with any government agency..

          • FlameonMe

            Triggered? I hope so. Now begone with your imaginary taxes. We have a nation to save from 8 years of feckless corrupt incompetent traitorous leadership.

          • AKLady

            Get an education.
            Stop exaggerating and lying.

        • Nicodemus

          POLL TAX!!? There haven’t BEEN poll taxes in decades, anywhere! What are you smoking? The closest things to poll taxes still in existence are illegal carry-permit laws that tax people for exercising their 2d Amendment right to keep and BEAR arms!

          • AKLady

            Anything you must pay for in order to vote is a poll tax.
            Your carry-permits have nothing to do with voting.

      • Nicodemus

        And only ONCE per person!

    • AKLady

      Requiring voter ID, unless it is provided free, is illegal.
      Unless provided free, it would be a poll tax.

      • Preco

        Nobody has ever proposed paying for voter ID

        • AKLady

          When did your state begin providing free, official
          identification cards?

          • Preco

            It’s obvious you are a Paid Stooge. The Pictures of the Panthers holding clubs is only backwards in the mind of an Idiot.

          • AKLady

            When did your state begin providing free, official
            identification cards?

      • FlameonMe

        Requiring verifiable identification of every voter is essential to ensure voters do not vote more than once. You KNOW that. And conflating a poll tax with voters ID is ridiculous. You KNOW that, but you purposefully try to obfuscate. No-one believes you here, but that doesn’t seem to matter to you.

        Has it ever occurred to you that your posts have the opposite effect from what you intend? You are convincing us to take an opposite view from yours. So Good Job.

        • AKLady

          The law, is the law, is the law.
          Apparently, you skipped both Civics and American Government class.

          • FlameonMe

            You can’t argue from both sides of your face lady. In your comments you were conflating voter identification with a poll tax. I don’t now give you permission to change the subject by hiding behind state laws. My point is to stop comparing a need for voters identification with a poll tax. No one believes you.

            In fact, I remember you from when I spanked you verbally a year ago. And I still say your leftist ideas only serve to solidify resistance against you….so keep it up. You are an example of who we are against. You persuade no one at all.

          • AKLady

            If you must pay for the required identification,
            it is a poll tax.

          • Nicodemus

            NOT IF YOU ALREADY HAVE THE ID! PEOPLE NEED ID FOR CASHING CHECKS, GETTING HOTEL ROOMS, RENTING VIDEOS….YOU ARE THE MOST IGNORANT INDIVIDUAL ON THE INTERNET! You are so stupid I can’t fathom for a moment how you’re able to use a PC!?

          • AKLady

            They don’t rent hotel rooms.
            They don’t rent videos.
            They don’t have televisions
            They don’t have running water.
            They don’t have electricity.
            Many make their own alcohol.
            Many grow their own tobacco.
            .
            YOU ARE ONE OF THE MOST IGNORANT INDIVIDUAL ON THE INTERNET!

          • Nicodemus

            that’s what…..12 people out of the entire population of Arkansas!1? Lady, I lived in the deep south for a year and spoke with ‘crackers’ who made their own hooch and wore hats made from pork bellies….they ALL had some form of ID so they could buy cigarettes at 16 or beer at 17 (yeah, this was that long ago….if they all had ID’s back in the 1980’s, you’re TOTALLY INSANE to suggest that they don’t have ID’s now!). Anyway, if someone lives so far out in the hills that they don’t have electricity or a TV (Hah!), they aren’t likely to have any interest in voting, are they!! Give yourself a good prostate exam while you’ve got your head up there!

          • AKLady

            I was born and raised in the Deep South.
            I have family in the Deep South.
            I visit Montgomery on a regular basis.

            You are a fine bigot that does not know jack about American poverty or the “White Ghetto”.

            Get an education.
            Your ignorance is an embarrassment to America.

          • regulus30

            see your stupid ace is still denigrating and insulting people on this sight; grow up and get a life.

          • AKLady

            You find facts to be insulting and denigrating?

      • Nicodemus

        Hey Looney Tunes….I lived in Appalachia for a year…EVERYONE had a photo ID….even at a young age, to prove they were old enough to buy cigarettes…later, to get a driver’s license, cash their food stamps and/or to buy beer. Even the illegals had ID…..I realize you’re a paid TROLL and it’s your ‘job’ to post this NWO load of codswallop to distort the truth…..but if you can find a dozen people with NO ID at all, not even a library card, I’ll gladly take them all to lunch!

        • AKLady

          Where in Appalachia?

          The poverty in that area is well documented, especially in the mountains. . Appalachia has some of the highest poverty rates in the US.

          There is no national advocacy group to defend the white poor. Even Martin Luther King, Jr. spoke to that issue.
          .

  • Ron C

    Time to fight fire with fire, the liberal democrat’s and their news media are always putting out fake news and false charges against conservatives with absolutely NO evidence what so ever…so when liberal’s protest mobs show up with their stupid signs say “they only got to vote once”…Start calling them vile names such as, pedophile, or child hater’s….but of course there is NO proof what so ever of the charge…but that is exactly what they do, so communicate to the idiot’s with baseless charges, just as the liberal idiots do…after all you can’t have a sane disagreement with the liberal idiot’s anyways…just saying!

  • Frederick Douglass

    The dems know they can’t win without the vote fraud.

  • Cecilia Robarge

    Just proves that the left have a lot to hide when it comes to fraud of any kind, including voting… duh… America will finally see their corruption and how they win….Next election will prove this. GOP will win by large numbers when the fraudulent votes of the devilcraps are eliminated and GOP will have almost full control of the Presidency and Congress. Amen and hallelujah!!!!!!

  • roger dodger

    If the government offers to provide you with a free voter’s id photograph card and gives you one year to get it and you are against it, you have one of 3 reasons.
    1. You expect to commit vote fraud.
    2. You expect to benefit from vote fraud.
    You consider your constituencey too lazy or too stupid to obtain a card.

  • xjcv8jag

    It is the first job and the most important job of the government to keep us safe. By allowing voter fraud of any sort it is a detriment to the country. and an insult to every citizen. Any politician not wanting to clean up the voter rolls should be FIRED for not upholding his or her oath of office. People are fired every day for dereliction.
    And as a side thought it may help DRAIN THE SWAMP.

    • Vince

      That is because they will never win again if they can not cheat

  • Brenda Kay Pedrotti

    Geez, aren’t the Democrats suppose to be more educated and so much smarter than the “deplorable” that voted for Trump? Wouldn’t it be reasonable, an intelligent choice, to make sure that our voting system is safe from hacking? As Americans shouldn’t we ensure that our voting system is free from fraud? What voter oppression are they talking about? If you are an American citizen, register to vote, take your ID, and go vote. Oh, I guess they didn’t teach common sense in college right? If the Democrats are so sure that there is no voter fraud, what’s their problem? The fact that they are so upset about the investigation is good enough reason to investigate further.

  • Fed up!

    I hate to inform the idiot Rep Louis but we live in a Republic. Please resign your ignorance makes you stupid

  • Nevadavoter1

    Fat chance of ever dealing with the voter fraud of illegals voting in southern Nevada or the LA basin in CA. In both these areas, illegal voting has been institutionalized and the State authorities will fight any attempt to call a halt to it. In Nevada, the Culinary Workers Union are complicit in bussing their members to the polls, whether citizens or not! In LA, they actually welcome non-citizens to the voting areas and invite them in Spanish to cast their ballots!

  • Robert D Green

    Just because voters are required to prove who they are, and that they are legally eligible to vote in the place they are voting, it is not voter suppression. Yes, there is a strong effort at voter suppression. It is the suppression of the vote of the dead, convicted felons, and illegal aliens. I have seen mini-busses with signs on the side of a certain organization crying voter suppression hauling people around to various polling places to vote. Could this be taking people to vote multiple times under different names? Photo IDs are fairly easy to fake; however, using biometrics is not able to be faked. We need either fingerprint or iris identification on a real-time basis to completely defeat multiple voting. It has been proven that multiple voting happens when a district has more votes cast than people actually living in the district that are eligible to vote!

    • Naval Lint

      Like the 120% voter turnout that Obama bragged about?

  • Jon Blowhard

    It’s not hard to vote if you are legally able to vote. if not, you shouldn’t be voting.

  • Loretta Marie Stock Kierein

    OH OH…. their outrage shows you just how BAD the voter fraud has gotten especially by the Dems /Clintons/ Obummer traitor. Go to it Commission – root them all out and expose their names in bright white lights!

  • Maxine Albritton

    so now the problem is voter discrimination and Russian Hacking, not voter fraud. Well, I am for discrimination when dead people are voting and voters are multiple voting. I don’t believe the Russians hacked the election period so no problem there. President Trump is trying to put this myth to res for once and for all. but the demos will go to their graves citting The Russians hacked the election and gave us Pres. Trump. I heard obama saying on Tv that he knew about the hacking *because he made it all up_) but did not do anything because he thought it was to favor Hillary. No one seems to mention that.

    • MidclassTaxpayr

      Yeah; nothing wrong with THAT reasoning, is there! Good grief; has he no shame?!!

  • Robert McFate

    We have been in a Constitutional crisis since Nov. 9, 2016 because the DumbocRATs refuse to accept a legally elected President. There is another word that fits their action Treason. Look it up in Marian Webster dictionary if you don’t believe me!

  • Wenda Kennedy

    The double standard here is blaring! We need EVERY polling place to have to check verifiable IDs for EVERY voter in EVERY election.

    When is this ever going to end? I’m so tired of the Ultra-Left making all this noise. I’m way too busy working to have the time to cause trouble — like these people who are howling all the time. I wish they would take care of their own knitting, get a life and shut up!

  • MarcJ

    California governor Moonbeam Brown issued 400,000 driver’s license applications in Spanish aimed to give the illegals the right to vote.

  • ernst

    Why is it that only liberals fear an open investigation into voter fraud? What does that tell you? Does anyone remember ACORN, which got millions from the Obama government and was then revealed to be teaching and promoting vote fraud?

    Vote fraud is an extremely important issue – far more than the Russians revealing the TRUTH about Democrat emails. Democrats seem to always hate having the truth revealed.

  • AKLady

    Voting fraud accusations have already been investigated – by the states.
    It is a state crime.
    The federal government has no business butting their head in.

  • Bill Harrison

    The louder they holler the more proof that voter fraud is happening.

    • Old Salt

      Correct…there’s a good book on the subject, can’t remember the title right now, but it’s something like, “If they can’t cheat, they can’t win” or “If it’s not close, they can’t cheat.” A communist will call a lie…the truth, if it furthers communism…that’s why honest people are confused by them…the honest can’t conceive of someone being that blatantly dishonest. Commies are experts at projection…they scream bloody murder that their opposition is doing exactly what they’re actually doing or misdirect by claiming the opposition is doing something equally egregious. A perfect example is the phony, “RUSSIAN COLLUSION, RUSSIAN COLLUSION”…never mind we’re busing people from poll to poll or voting the the dead and still born children.

  • mb

    I recently read that voter fraud has been found in 44 states. Why the left is so opposed to and investigation into this, tells the story. If there is no voter fraud, as the left states, then why are they afraid of an investigation? Their counter is always voter suppression, which is bogus. If just fits with all the name calling they are famous for doing. If the left is unhappy with what you say, they label you a (fill in the blank) to try and intimidate you. Poor liberals are going to be unhappy for at least the next four years.

  • Sueja

    No one wants Russians or any other countries interfering with our elections we also don’t want other intimidation or voter fraud. Every American should fight for our rights to a free election and if you are against a free election tion shame on you. So shame on democrats for wanting to not have a free election.

  • lordhoff

    They know their gravy train is threatened once their gaming of the system is revealed.

  • kassa1

    The left were on the up and up they would welcome this investigation. The reason they are not because they are demonically evil and they could not win an election without fixing the election, as one of the Democrat operatives one said several months ago but they have been fixing elections for 50 years.

  • regulus30

    New Hampshire and others are already verifying their voter logs by mail and have had thousands of requests returned as unable to deliver;; THERE IS VOTER FRAUD INTENTIONAL OR OTHERWISE.

  • Sam Crabtree

    As faar as I know, the votes are not on the internet where a hacker, even the Russians could change them. The so-called Russian interferance in out electiona is nothing more than allowing the American voter to have information that they – the Russians – have. I was taught in school (60+ years ago) that the more informed the electorate is the better they will vote. If a candidate – or a party – doesn’t want certain information about what they have don that is bade to be made public there is one sure way to stop that bad information – DON’T DO BAD THINGS and the Russians (or anyone else) can’t publicize it.

  • Jon Blake

    President Trump is the Man. Drain that Swamp Sir

  • red nig

    The dems have always claimed to be the only party. Only they, they claim, merit the right to rule. Yet, most of them cannot go potty without someone to wipe their tushies and brush their teeth. They’ve always stole votes, bought them, or robbed people (usually non-whites, using their names). Vote early, vote often! Boston Miracle. They hire houseboys like Obama and giggle when he screws up. When the going gets tough, they haul out the KKK and Nazi Party to ‘support da conservative!’ and the conservative used to lose. I’m Native American. We watch things. We keep our mouths closed and use our ears. I and others have seen black dems going to KKK meeting houses to talk and get support. Hitler did not care what one’s color was, so long as the person was obedient.

  • Louie Rey

    Of course the Left is freaking out about this, they have the most to lose! This reminds me of an e-mail I got about a year and a half or so ago. It consisted of 24 pictures or posters with a political theme. They were all meant to be funny but also thought provoking at the same time. The one I remember most was the very first one. It was a picture of abut a dozen or so illegals climbing a fence to get into America. The caption read, “If all of these guys were Republicans the immigration problem would already be solved.”

  • Louie Rey

    Well, I’ve never heard a more apropos and definitive description of liberals in my life. Thanks. I just may co-opt your statement if I can remember it all. Have a great day.