Dems Split Over Whether to Shut Down Gov’t for Dreamers

Far left opposes any spending bill that fails to address DACA situation…

Jon Tester photo

Jon Tester/Photo by Senator McCaskill (CC)

(Daily Caller News Foundation) Senate progressives with secure seats are prepared to allow a government shutdown if Republicans refuse to address the fate of Dreamers in the government spending bill, while centrists up for reelection in 2018 likely fear the political consequences of an unyielding stance.

While Democrats are relatively united in their desire for a legislative fix to the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which shields illegal immigrants brought to the country as minors from deportation, they are divided over whether to press the issue as a non-negotiable in the impending spending bill.

Democratic Sen. Jon Tester of Montana, who is up for reelection in 2018, told The Hill, “I still don’t think government shutdown is a good thing,” adding that he asked Schumer to “do the right thing” and continue negotiations.

Most moderate Democrats have remained silent on the issue of whether they would oppose any spending bill in the absence of a DACA provision, likely waiting to take their cue from leadership.

**MORE DACA COVERAGE at LibertyHeadlines.com**

Their lack of commitment stands in stark opposition to the five progressive senators who have vowed to oppose any spending legislation — even a short-term bill like the one currently on the table — no protection for Dreamers is included.

Sens. Kamala Harris of California and Bernie Sanders of Vermont have been extremely outspoken on the issue, repeatedly asserting their opposition to any spending bill that neglects Dreamers.

They’re joined by New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, who called the issue one of “basic decency and morality” and last month, and said “I want solutions to protect these kids, and won’t vote for a spending bill that doesn’t include one.”

Elizabeth Warren Wars Against Dem 'Centrists' at Nutty Netroots Conference

Elizabeth Warren/IMAGE: YouTube

Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts has also committed herself to opposing any spending bill that doesn’t address the fate of those previously shielded by DACA.

As the Dec. 8 shutdown deadline approaches, the Senate is expected to vote on a short-term stopgap spending bill Friday that would keep the government funded until Dec. 22. Senate Republicans, many of whom have expressed a willingness to negotiate a legislative extension to the DACA program, have pointed out that no Dreamers will be in danger of deportation until March, leaving time for negotiations.

Republicans must secure the vote of at least eight Democrats in order to overcome a filibuster and pass the bill.

GOP leadership has expressed a willingness to include protections for dreamers in the long term spending bill in exchange for enhanced border security measures.

But Democrats’ willingness to cooperate will likely hinge on how extensive those protections are as many of the aforementioned progressive lawmakers have established a “clean” DACA extension, absent any security measures or merit based reforms, as their ultimate goal.

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  • Ardvark

    That would democrat voters, not dreamers!

    • Edward Marquez

      Amen to that.

    • Barbara

      ???

  • deanbob

    If the left does shut down the govt, I look forward to see how the hypocrites spin the shut down. Remember all of the bashing the GOP took, when they did it? I bet most MSM will try to whitewash it it; or, they’ll say its ok because it FEELS right to try and help the dreamers.

    • Jackalyn Morrison

      You are SOOO RIGHT

    • kep

      At the same time, Emperor Obama took his family on a lavish vacation to his homeland.

      • Naval Lint

        When did Barry vacation in Kenya? I thought he just kept going to Hawaii…

        • kep

          It was the same time the White House was closed to tours because of lack of funds.

    • Fed up!

      Dreammer💩💩💩 call them what they are criminals offsprings

  • Louie Rey

    I’m surprised there’s any hesitation among the Democrats in allowing the government shutdown (would anybody notice?) because their game plan is that everything’s the GOP’s fault. Therefore, I was under the impression that they’d allow it and blame Republicans. That being said, people that are here illegally, regardless of how they got here, shouldn’t be the determining factor in American governance.

    • RealAmerican407

      Americans don’t trust the dishonest and biased media anymore. More and more are waking up and realizing they are pushing an agenda.

      • Louie Rey

        The Americans’ distrust for the media is a very good thing. At one time their bias was subtle but now it’s overtly in your face. Their true colors are there for everyone to see.

      • AKLady

        You are correct, the brainwashing of America is almost complete.
        The US has become 1930s-1940s Germany.

    • Fed up!

      Louie
      Shut the whole dam thing down. They can’t pass damaging laws if it shut down. There a real up side to a shut down. For every day there shut down, the people should get a pro rated deduction off their taxes, since less money is spent. 😀👍👍

      • Louie Rey

        If only. Like I said, would anybody notice? But I wouldn’t mind my prorated share back that’s for sure.

        • Papa Bear

          People on social security and disabled veterans would know Many depend on what they put into social security to live on and the disabled veterans well who gives a damn about them anyway right???

          • Mountain_Dew_518

            I care about our veterans dearly. But then again I am NOT a lying liberal DemonRat or Rino. May God bless and help our Veterans and protect all our military.

          • Papa Bear

            I don’t believe I accused you as being either. I was merely replying to Louie Ray’s question”would anybody notice with examples of who would notice

          • Mountain_Dew_518

            No, you did not accuse me of being either. I was just letting you know that I stand with our Veterans and I really do appreciate them so very much..
            It did not come out right about DemonRat or Rinos. Hopefully you will understand what I am trying to say is that DemonRats and Rinos and some could care less about out Veterans. Those people that don’t respect our Veterans or military does not belong here. But yet they will call for them if and when disaster strikes or if they want something. I thank God everyday for our Veterans and military. I lost relatives in Viet Nam and dad in World War II. I also have relatives still serving. I hope I did not offend you. I am not good at putting how I feel in to words. My apologies sir.
            Thank you and many blessings to you and yours.

          • Papa Bear

            I do know what you are saying but you phrased your response in such a way that I was accusatory

          • Mountain_Dew_518

            Thank you!!! I will try to be more careful. I am not good explaining my feelings.

          • Papa Bear

            It takes a fair amount of practice

          • Mountain_Dew_518

            I agree 100%

          • Papa Bear

            Yes its only obvious one needs to crawl before they walk and there is no substitute for practice

          • Mountain_Dew_518

            I agree with you. By the way, I salute you sir and thank-you sir with all my heart for your service to America.

          • Papa Bear

            You are quite welcome. Truth be told despite all I went through I would do it again in a heartbeat!!!

          • Mountain_Dew_518

            You are a true American Patriot!!! Thanks again and have a good night.

          • Papa Bear

            You as well!!!

          • AKLady

            Name calling is nursery school behavior.
            The very first step in Fascism is to label people.
            The brainwashing began under Bush, it is not being used.

          • AKLady

            Who will protect them when the right-turns off the electricity, as to say?

          • IMSweetOlBob

            S.S. and the armed forces will still be paid. I don’t know about Veterans benefits, but it stands to reason that if the democRATS could shaft anyone,it would be them.

          • Papa Bear

            Veterans benefits are tied in with social security. They had a COLA adjustment yearly However under that miscegenated Øb☭m☭ bin Lyin they were stopped for eight years all by Executive Order. My disabled friends are hoping for something under Trump I suppose Seniors on SS are as well!

      • Askjrsk

        Dock lawmakers friggin pay.

      • AKLady

        Every day the government is shut down, it causes people to die.

        • Fed up!

          Your full of💩💩💩

          • AKLady

            Illiteracy and ignorance, combined.
            Is it not beautiful to observe?

          • AKLady

            “Your” is a personal pronoun.
            “Your” is not a contraction for “you are”.

    • Dan

      Absolutely correct!!!
      USA governance must be based on USA law.
      Not make new law so we can appease illegal aliens, which as I much as I hate to say it, is exactly what Trump gave congress 6 months to do.
      I would rather Trump just reversed Obama’s EO and let the chips fall where they may.
      It is unfortunate that when the time came Trump did not have the stomach to simply make the decision.
      Trump is the best person, of all that ran, that we could have elected.
      But, on this issue, right now, I am very disappointed and very concerned.

    • AKLady

      The government shutdown game has been played before. The workers simply get more paid vacation days.

  • Jsh8675309

    SHUT IT DOWN. WE CAN’T CAVE TO EXTORTION BY THE LEFT, throwing a fit aholes

  • SAM the Fan

    Shutting the Swamp down does not mean anything because the critical government functions like the Military keep going. This ploy is getting very old with these Demo-commies. I am a “dreamer” dream about all these worthless politicians be replaced with real Americans that want to help people like President Trump return the USA to the pride and glory are ancestors made it. BTW when they shut it down for Christmas I suggest that President Trump except the shutdown as they resignations and call a locksmith to change the locks on the office doors of Pelosi, Schumer, McCain, Flack, etc. so they cannot come back and cause more trouble.

    • Jackalyn Morrison

      You are one hundred percent correct

      • SAM the Fan

        Thanks Jackalyn!

    • Fed up!

      Good commit like that idea. Let’s everyone call, fax and email tweet the President that idea.

      • SAM the Fan

        Thanks Fedup – I worked for the Federal Government for 9 years in the 70’s and left as a GS-12 with a great future ahead. But I would not compromise my values and buy into carrying on the wasteful practices knowing the money wasted is being taken from the tax payers who actually work very hard for their money.

    • Reggie Smith

      Sam, if they shut the government down, I think the pay cuts should include Congress. Stop their glorious salaries, and see how long they last…..and how long they would make it before being charged with sexual harassment.

      • SAM the Fan

        I think these people do many things worse than sexual harassment as they never seem to show that they have morals of any kind!

  • RealAmerican407

    Go ahead and shut down the government to appease illegals and see what happens…

    The slim chances you have of winning election in 2020 will fly right out the window.

    There is no “fix” for something that was lawless and unconstitutional to begin with!

    • Jackalyn Morrison

      Amen

      • AKLady

        Read thw Constitution — begin with Article II, Section 8, Clause 1.

    • AKLady

      There was nothing lawless or unconstitutional about DACA.
      The Constitution, Article II, gives the President the authority to grant reprieves and pardons. Suggest you read it and stop embarrassing America.

      • RealAmerican407

        Of course an executive order itself isn’t lawless or unconstitutional, you are just trying to muddy the waters and knew exactly what I meant. Taking away the people’s choice on who enters our country and making millions of illegals into citizens while bypassing congress with the stroke of a pen is unconstitutional.

        There is not one single DACA supporter, yourself included, or legal expert who can argue DACA itself (not the EO which is where you are trying to muddy things up) on constitutional grounds.

        If the President signs an executive order to have Obama assassinated does that make it lawful and constitutional?

        • AKLady

          It was Reagan and Congress who bequeathed citizenship upon illegals. That was Constitutional executive pardon. The majority receiving that pardon, entered illegally of their own violation. Article II, Section 8, Clause 1.

          Obama simply gave those BROUGHT here, as children, additional time to correct/legalize their immigrant status. Children dis not have a choice. That was Constitutional Executive reprieve. Article II, Section 8, Clause 1.

          • RealAmerican407

            “Obama simply gave those BROUGHT here, as children, additional time to correct/legalize their immigrant status. ”

            Again you try to muddy the waters. DACA is endless chain migration and a simple search will reveal how badly it has been exploited. DACA is not an actual law and is a massive amnesty program. No amount of spin or pointing to Reagan will change that fact. There is no way to “correct” a crime that has already been committed, you are nonsensical. They are illegal aliens and Obama pardoned them, don’t deflect by blaming Bush.

            Using the words “additional time” is an attempt to trivialize the fact that they are here illegally and implying that someone who enters our country illegally is automatically allotted a certain period of time to become legal. That is a total like and you know it.

            Let’s not even get started on the negative economic impacts, IRS fraud or the criminals that come in under this program.

          • AKLady

            Please learn the difference between a reprieve and amnesty.
            Then, actually read DACA. Contrary to your allegations the law has very specific time and date limits.
            Oh, and foolish one, children BROUGHT here committed no crime.
            They lack intent.

          • RealAmerican407

            “Contrary to your allegations the law has very specific time and date limits. “

            How do you expect me to take you serious when you say silly things such as calling DACA law? An EO carries the force of law but is NOT a law.

            “Oh, and foolish one, children BROUGHT here committed no crime.
            They lack intent.”

            Clearly you don’t know how easy it was for illegals to lie and portray someone as their child. Do you really think they did extensive background checks? We are talking about a President who ordered ICE to catch and release illegals without children. It is well documented how badly DACA has been exploited. Just because you refuse to acknowledge irrefutable facts hardly makes me foolish.

          • AKLady

            That which carries the force of law is de facto law. Presidential amnesty and pardon are two authorities granted by the Constitution.

            DACA Exploited? Give it a break. Your lack of legal knowledge is huge. Eligibility requirements were/are very exacting. The application and processing costs were not insignificant.

            Reagan issued amnesty and pardons. He has saintly status.

            Obama provides a temporary reprieve, he is not just a sinner, but a demon.

            Oh, and foolish one, “Catch and Release” ended under Bush in 2006.
            It was the de facto policy under ICE. Ignorant one, America did not have the resources available to detain people during the lengthy period between arrest and deportation. You see, under thw Constitution, they must be provided a hearing.
            .

          • AKLady

            That which carries the force of law is de facto law. Presidential amnesty and pardon are two authorities granted by the Constitution.

            DACA Exploited? Give it a break. Your lack of legal knowledge is huge. Eligibility requirements were/are very exacting. The application and processing costs were not insignificant.

            Reagan issued amnesty and pardons. He has saintly status.

            Obama provides a temporary reprieve, he is not just a sinner, but a demon.

            Oh, and foolish one, “Catch and Release” ended under Bush in 2006.
            It was the de facto policy under ICE. Ignorant one, America did not have the resources available to detain people during the lengthy period between arrest and deportation. You see, under thw Constitution, they must be provided a hearing.
            .

          • RealAmerican407

            Reagan issued amnesty and pardons. He has saintly status.
            Obama provides a temporary reprieve, he is not just a sinner, but a demon.

            Here we got with the whataboutism’s again. This discussions is about DACA which has absolutely nothing about Bush. How can you call this temporary when Democrats are ready to shut down the government over it? How is making millions of illegals into citizens temporary? Again you insist on throwing out claims that are nonsensical.

            That which carries the force of law is de facto law. Presidential amnesty and pardon are two authorities granted by the Constitution.

            Yet it isn’t a law. If it was then a President would not be able to undo it with a pen because it went through Congress and was put to a vote by Representatives elected by the people. Yet again you are nonsensical.

            As I stated above – There is not one single DACA supporter, yourself included, or legal expert who can argue DACA itself (not the EO which is where you are trying to muddy things up) on constitutional grounds.

          • AKLady

            DACA applies to a very narrow group, specifically by age and arrival date.

            DACA applies only to individuals BROUGHT here as CHILDREN.

            DACA provided additional time to legalize their immigration status. DACA is a REPRIEVE.

            TRUMP cannot “undo” it.
            He can only give it an end date.

            Ex post facto criminal law is illegal in the U.S. Such a law is unconstitutional on its face.

          • RealAmerican407

            DACA is amnesty and everyone knows it. Stop trying to spin it and rationalize it. You cannot simply legalize yourself and pretend the crime you committed just goes away. What on earth are you talking about? If I steal something and get caught but am given time to return it does that mean I never committed a crime? If a mother and father rob a bank and get caught does that mean the son or daughter gets the money?

          • AKLady

            Take a law class. You don’t know jack.
            Your question shows just how really ignorant you are.

          • RealAmerican407

            Says the one who called an EO a law when you knew that was a lie. Bush had nothing to do with DACA and you threw that in as filler.

          • AKLady

            When within the Constitutional authority, an Executive Order has the force of law, and can have the continued effect of law. Excuse me for trying not to confuse people like you … The legislative route is not the only way law is created. Court orders become binding and enforceable by other courts, i.e., become law.

            It is Article II, Section I, Clause 1 and Article II, Section 3 which will probably provide the vehicle for Trump’s impeachment.

          • RealAmerican407

            It is Article II, Section I, Clause 1 and Article II, Section 3 which will probably provide the vehicle for Trump’s impeachment.

            And there it is, the true motive behind your fervor and constant defending of one man turning millions of illegals into legal citizens. It’s all because you hate Trump.

            Yeh good luck with that. After a year of leaks from inside the government its pretty obvious that a smoking gun would have leaked by now. Numerous testimonies from top intelligence officials and not a SHRED of evidence was produced. Comey admitted that the Kremlin sourced propaganda which triggered this whole hoax was purchased by Democrats. Then it he admitted to leaking it, knowing it was bogus, so that his friend could become special counsel. Now we find out how corrupt and biased Mueller’s team is.

            You are insane if you think a GOP controlled Congress would impeach him even if there was merit for it which there isn’t thus far.

          • AKLady

            No one turned an illegal into a citizen.
            A President provided a REPRIEVE which permitted CHILDREN brought here to legalize their immigration status.
            EVERYONE IN THIS NATION IS EITHER AN IMMIGRANT OR THE DECENDENT OF AN IMMIGRANT — EVEN THE FIRST PEOPLE.

          • RealAmerican407

            So you are telling me no one turned an illegal into a citizen and then you turn around and tell me that illegals were given the opportunity to become a citizen. I hope you can appreciate how you just contradicted yourself. What do you think a legal immigrant is?? Just because everyone can trace their family roots back to immigration is irrelevant and has nothing to do with DACA.

            Just because my family were immigrants that somehow forfeits my ability and right to criticize DACA and illegal immigration in general?

          • AKLady

            CHILDREN ….
            How much choice did you have as a child?

          • RealAmerican407

            ILLEGAL….
            We are not discussing the age. They can only be one of two things, illegal or US citizens and we both know they are not citizens. Stop muddying the waters. You are obsessed with the word “reprieve” as if the mere mention of that word whisks away their status as illegals and non US citizens.

            You really should read up on how many of these “children” are actually grown men and women or end up in gangs such as MS-13. You have your head in the clouds if you think DACA is not exploited like most government programs.

            I would love to post some links but I cannot. 2,139 DACA recipients have been convicted or accused of crimes against Americans. I’m sure you wouldn’t be so compassionate if you or a family member was a victim.

          • Rolpho Signetti

            Since you are such a big mouth opinionated liberal TROLL… why are you not in your beloved liberal state helping put out the fires. Along with all the illegals that say they love America! Because that would take you away from flapping your big mouth!

            As the liberal trolls were saying about the fires in the Appalachias awhile ago that it teaches those hillbillies right!

            To California: BURN TO HE L L! You deserve it! Then when you quit burning, let the BIG ONE HIT, and slide that POS state in the ocean!

            Have a nice day: scumbag!

          • AKLady

            Whatever drug it is you are using, you need to cut back.
            You post is senseless.

          • Rolpho Signetti

            Again another tactic from the Soro’s handbook. Put down the medieval, or sanity of people you oppose!

            If anybody had the corner on drug use, I am afraid it is the left. Get off the pipe there AKTROLL!

          • AKLady

            Name calling is nursery school behavior.
            I’m impressed, just not the way you wanted.

          • Rolpho Signetti

            Do you get some kind of an orgas mic thrill fighting with the right? I wonder… you keep coming back for more!

          • AKLady

            Yet another, right-wing, adolescent male insult.

        • Diana Schneider

          Really when did that happen? would have had a Block Party!! that scum will get his though and will not in anyway be pretty

      • Rolpho Signetti

        And there is nothing unconstitutionalal about protecting the boarders from our illegal friends from the south, moron troll!

        • AKLady

          DACA was about children, not borders.

          • Rolpho Signetti

            And my reply to that bit of “let’s muddy the waters to take the eye of why they are here in the first place is”: WHO GIVES A F!!!! If the stupid parents did not come here illegally, they would not be here! It is more humane to return them to where they came from, than having them grow up in a strange land!

            Another BLEEDING HEART TROLL post from the AK!

            If they like the good ol USA so much, why are they always carrying that stupid Mexican flag around when they protest against the land they supposingly love?

          • AKLady

            You, sir, have proven that you do not know anything, whatsoever, about DACA.

          • Rolpho Signetti

            Oh let’s put a DREAM in the name! The stupid republicans will have to approve it!
            Yeah right! They can burn in H e l l’ along with California!

          • AKLady

            I suspect you also claim to be a Christian.
            You probably also claim America is a Christian country.

          • Rolpho Signetti

            Another left wing playbook ploy! Bring religion into the conversation. When most likely YOU are a godless troll. Yet if the right even suggests a word about God, the left goes into a seperation of church rant.liberals… bunch of two faced scum.

            And as far as hurting your feelings by calling you names… that is your PC trip. I do not care if I hurt your little feelings, in fact I enjoy it!

            Please read your posts on numerous subjects to me, and other people. You are name calling, childish, BUT a lot of times you do it in a back handed way(another liberal ploy). Practice what you preach.

            And I share my religious beliefs to my friends, and family. Not some moron facelesss idiot TROLL on the internet.

            Go in peace, moron.

          • AKLady

            Thank you for proving my point.
            You did so with excellence.

          • Rolpho Signetti

            And the point? You are a moron troll? You are welcome! Got it on super spin? Typical

          • AKLady

            Thank you for proving my point.
            You did so with excellence, yet again.

          • Rolpho Signetti

            Again… what a moron

          • Leon Uplinger

            Many of these so called children are in their late 30s.

          • AKLady

            They were brought here as children.
            They were raised as Americans.
            DACA was about age of entry,
            it contains very specific limits.

      • Rolpho Signetti

        And it also gives the sitting president: in this case PRESIDENT TRUMP, the authority to rescind stupid liberal agendas if he so wants to. So stick that in your troll pipe and smoke it!!!

        • AKLady

          Which is it: Did you fail English class or are you one of those illegals?

          • Rolpho Signetti

            Another cleaver tactic, to put down the intelligence of people you disagree with! Right out of the liberal playbook! How predictable, and sad! Real Americans read right thru you TROLL!

          • AKLady

            I spoke to language mastery, not intelligence.
            You, however, just provided evidence in regard to your intelligence level … You also provided additional language errors.

  • Al Chemist

    One would hope that if they shut it down, it would give the useless bureaucrats an unpaid vacation, and the taxpayers a small break. Unfortunately, they would ultimately be paid. It might be used against the democrats in the 2018 elections if they do, but that is not certain.

  • ImOffendedTreatMeSpecial

    Go ahead, shut it down. You know how well that worked out for the GOP. Can’t wait for ’18 so we can kick our more dems and rinos.

    • tCotUS

      YEP

    • Darrell Guss

      Totally Agree!!

    • But New Jersey senator booker won’t sign for a bill because he wants to protect the “children” of daca who are in their upper twenties! He’s only looking for hispanic votes in 2018. These were anchor babies. They’re old enough to go home NOW.

      • Askjrsk

        Agree, no we shouldn’t be taking care of illegal foreigners.

      • Dan

        Booker is a disgusting racist.
        He does not even know what the USA is.
        His concerns are strictly things that BLM and many NFL players would like.

  • comanchewill

    let the govt shut down….I promise there will be a blood bath come election time 2018….I come from two generations of democrats….

    • BatGuanna

      You come from where are you now?

  • Bruce Kellar

    More gangster politicians padding their legacy at the taxpayer’s expense.

  • tCotUS

    Go ahead aholes ..Shut it down, your Party’s is already in the sewer Only thing you will accomplish is the final nail in your Party’s coffin..

  • margaret

    In Alabama there are poor people who have no septic tanks or public sewage and children are playing in grounds with sewage leakage and getting tapeworms in a country that spends trillions on illegals. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE COMMUNIST DUMBOCRATS. THEY WILL PUT MONEY OUT ON LAW BREAKERS WHILE AMERICAN CHILDREN SUFFER. ALSO ALOT OF CHILDREN ARE SUFFERING IN APPALACHEA. CHEAP LABOR IS WHY FOR CORPORATE AMERICA. SHAME ON THESE IDIOTS FOR LETTING AMERICAN CHILDREN SUFFER AND CATERING TO LAW BREAKING ILLEGALS. VOTE THESE IDIOTS OUT

    • Askjrsk

      Spot on

  • brooksmd

    Hey Dems, here’s something to consider. How about worrying about real US citizens first instead of illegals?

    • Askjrsk

      Or George Soros priorities be second to that of we the people? They’re on his payroll thus they satisfy Soros. .

    • JSIVO

      WHY DON’T WE ALLOW ALL DACA TO RESIDE ONLY IN MEXIFORNIA BY LAW AND LET THEM SUPPORT THEM. FEDERAL MONEY WOULD NOT BE A FACTOR IN BEING SPENT IN MEXIFORNIA. THEY MUST BE SUPPORTED BY THE SANCTUARY STATES ONLY. NOW THE ONE THAT ARE HERE STAY AND NO OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS ALLOWED UNDER ILLEGAL OBAMA EX. ORDER

    • Papa Bear

      Novel Idea who in congress would be that responsible?

  • Charles Girard

    You Democrat Communist should call these people on the borders what they are, Voters. You know damn well that is all they are to you, stop your lying, you just want your power back and are willing to say anything or use anyone to get it back.

    • kep

      Liberal ARE COMMUNISTS AND TERRORISTS.

      • Austrailianterrierlady

        All need to be execute

  • Reggie Smith

    A SOLID RESOLUTION TO DACA RECIPIENTS and ILLEGAL ALIENS. Simply require every one of them to file for citizenship and take the oath of THIS NATION. If they qualify we should welcome them. If they don’t file, round them up and send them home. If they file within the 30 day limitation judgement can be made based on each individual case. Let those who file would be allowed to stay until their application is processed and approved. If they don’t qualify, round them up and send them home.

    • Fed up!

      BS💩 That’s saying you broke our laws, but hey a little slap on the wrist and everything ok WACOS if they deported back to no government assistance Duh! I sick of you liberals, maybe with ideas like that you should be deported also. You either follow or laws or pay the price.

      • Reggie Smith

        I’m on your side. This is one way to get these liberal jerks off our backs, and have the names and addresses of all of them. I also know that 46% of the DACA recipients are illiterate, and would never pass the citizenship test. It’s simply saying “Do it right or get out”. I’m also saying that if any of them are on Government Assistance, the government should stop immediately. But, your point is well taken. They should also be restricted from any public assistance. California alone spent $16 Billion taking care of these worthless people.

      • Reggie Smith

        I’m on your side FED UP! This is only a suggestion for a way to get them to do what they should have done before they came in, but it is also a way to get a lot of names and addresses of these government wastes. I know that 46% of the DACA recipients are considered illiterate, and couldn’t pass the citizenship test. The majority of them would not apply, and it would stop all Government Assistance immediately. Your point is well taken on getting back on the government assistance. Fortunately, this problem might have taken care of itself today, as the news media is saying that the Democrats are split on this decision. By the way, I hope you don’t want me to be deported. I’m a hardcore conservative with simple solutions to problems. 🙂

    • Naval Lint

      That would be an amnesty…and how would that be fair to those who followed the correct, legal process?

      • Reggie Smith

        I agree. And, as of today, the Demokrats are split on this. That might resolved the problem once and for all.

  • Gregg Parker

    Shut it down and put up the going out of business sign in the window…

  • suerobb

    Who are the Democrats elected to represent? Citizens who elect then, or citizens of other countries here illegally?

  • Dan Baker

    send the dreamers back to their origin home . If you are here illegally you need to leave and come back through the legal process . Companies need to use proper verification when employing people or pay stiff penalties for hiring illegals

    • R G

      Jail time for company owners would be a better motivator .

    • Austrailianterrierlady

      Give them thirty day if u still here execute

    • Fed up!

      Twice this month new clients have used e verified to make sure it was correct federal id before issuing me a check for services. Some companies are abiding by the law.

  • R G

    If the Dimmz shut it down the swamp will be drained to a much lower level in the 2018 mid-terms. And with Pres. Trumps re-election in 2020 that level will be even lower and starting to dry up.
    BRING IT ON LIBTARDS the American patriot voters are ready.

  • Darrell Guss

    Senator Tester is my Senator and I’m praying he gets voted OUT of the Senate! He’s part of the Swamp and should be flushed like the rest of them! I often wonder how Tester had kids, cause he sure doesn’t have a “set” when it comes to politics! Deport the Dreamers, they’re not our problem, we didn’t invite them or their ILLEGAL parents to this country! Throw Them Out, along with Tester!

  • Deplorable Irredeemable Susan

    This is something that Obama pushed through by skirting around the law of the land.
    He signed an executive order to allow anchor children to stay here illegally, AND invite
    various family members to come in, at the expense of our citizens. Now our President wants
    to deport them to the counties they belong in. We cannot baby-sit the world. We can no
    longer afford to support everyone. There is already enough fraud and extortion going on
    here. Like the witch-hunt Mueller is pulling off. The real criminal elements are laughing
    all the way to the Clinton Fundation! Deport ALL illegals, and neutralize ALL sanctuary
    cities. The money saved could go to our veterans. Build the wall, now!

  • LANI

    Anyone can claim they were brought here as a child. This is all a JOKE. Its a way for DemRats to get votes since Americans r realizing they r Hypocrites, Corrupt, Deceitful etc. And they don’t vote DemCrap anymore. Not all, but enough that the scums need to recruit new voters. They don’t care about the “Dreamer ” they r just using them!
    I say let the Gov. Shut down, it’s not going to hurt anyone. Checks will still go out to all the government workers, Social Security recipients will continue to get their $$$. ETC, ETC, ETC

  • Tim

    Negotiating with Democrats is like negotiating with the devil, both are bad ideas.
    Democrats don’t negotiate, they demand it their way only
    It would be better for Americans if the Republications listen to what Democrats want and vote the other way.
    Don’t give in to any of that scum

  • LANI

    And none of them should EVER B allowed to vote. Make Voter Id’s Mandatory!
    The DemOCraps will not like That! 😁 There goes their plan!😆

  • Bill Harrison

    Typical liberal bull. Shut the government down and hurt Americans to help illegals. If you want Dreamers to get help sit down with Republicans and give a little to get a little.

  • Edward

    Why are we paying for illegals. Why don’t the country they came from pay for them. And if they don’t pay we send them back. Besides illegals have jobs and they must make good money they all drive new trucks.

  • Benton Marder

    What does any Democrat know about ‘decency and morality’? Their words and actions belie the notion that they do.
    Also, why is Congress farting around with a spending bill that is for two weeks? Can they not do their business competently and timely? Why are they dorking about and wasting time, money, and our patience?

  • Washington Watchdog

    Why didn’t the Dems work with Obama and fashion a Constitutional solution for the dreamers? Or why can’t the Dems present a plan to the President who has asked for one? Let’s face it, DACA was half baked, meaning it did not follow Constitution procedures. Time for the Dems to stop playing games and start getting something done. Obama knew damn well that DACA and ACA were going to come to an end.

  • Peter J

    The legislative or lawful fix is, “go home!” Dreamers or not they are here illegally. Many people fail to equate “illegal” to “breaking the law” or even better… “criminals.” Other criminals include the politicians who enable this nonsense. They too should be prosecuted for obstruction of justice, aiding and abetting and misuse or abuse of public funds.

  • SA Ander

    Go ahead and shut it down, DACA is a lost cause, but go ahead and beat that dead horse .

  • Reggie Smith

    Let me point out one thing. Many of the illegal immigrants came across our borders to receive free medical services, and have their babies labeled as American Citizens. That stinks. Federal funding should stop immediately for all of these people, whether DACA, or any other illegal immigrant in this country. That alone would send the majority of them home.

  • Edward Conley

    Go ahead and put the final nail in your coffin.The mid terms will eliminate more of you treasonous pukes.

  • Askjrsk

    DACA IS OVER. You cannot hold us, we the people hostage. Is it open season on illegal immigrants? Secure that border. Build that wall.

  • Cora Bird

    Funny how they want to shut down the government for illegals but don’t want to shut it down to stop this middle class-killing tax bill.

  • JB

    Why are not the Senators that are opposing the tax bill being kicked out of Congress for treason! These people are allowing terrorists illegal aliens I don’t care if they are kids! This still from illegal families not coming in this country legally they should not be recognized as citizens they should all be deported and if they want to do it legally let him come in that way! This country needs to protect itself first not a bunch of immigrants, terrorists, half breeds, illegals! They are the reason this country is going down the tubes as well as Democrats and liberals!

  • Reggie Smith

    Okay, some didn’t seem to like my previous suggestion, so how about this? Let all illegals register for citizenship, including the DACA illegals. Get their names and addresses. When they do, we can deport them. If they say we lied, we can say “You lied first”. The Bible says “A lie for a lie”. Or is it an “eye for an eye”.

  • therealworld

    Shut the Government Down, Stop Collecting taxes and go Screw Yourselves you freekin Liberals.

  • therealworld

    Tell Obutmo and Hitlery to pay for the Freekin Illegals.

  • CBUJAN

    It amazes me that democratic politicians can work for illegal aliens, Muslim refugees and whoever else is in the middle when they were voted to office by Americans. This is why Trump was elected. Why don’t the democrats and the lying media worry about American citizens that are out of work, we have 95 million Americans out of the work force, why don’t they worry about our economy, why don’t they worry that it is costing Americans 100’s of billions of dollars to support these illegal’s . A lot of these reasons and more is why President Trump was elected.

    Americans don’t want open borders, they want illegal immigration to stop, they want dreamers deported, they are tired of supporting illegal aliens by the use of our welfare system, They are tired of illegal aliens taking jobs from Americans and lowering wages, They do not want Muslim refugees into the country, They want lower taxes and a better economy, They are tired of democrats trying to destroy our First and Second Amendment rights, they are tired of criminal and gang violence and sanctuary cities, they are tired of the lying news media, they are tired of the democrats and their witch hunt on our president. Democrats want everything that the American people don’t want. Do democrats ever talk about what they can do for Americans instead of catering to illegal aliens, Muslim refugees and anyone else who is not American?

  • Raymond Miller

    Go ahead and shut it down, I hope you do in fact I want you to. Then when it comes time to start it up again don’t rehire all of those non-es-sen-tial personnel, if they are non-es-sen-tial what the h*ll do we need them for.
    NO AMNESTY FOR ANYONE, OBAMBAM BROUGHT THOSE CHILDREN HERE TO SCREW US, THIER FATE IS ON HIS HANDS, deport them now, send them back where they came from.

  • John

    Wall funds MUST be included and NO form of amnesty plus kill the unaffordable careless act.

  • Dan

    DACA was illegal to begin with.
    Obama kicked this can down the road with his illegal EO.
    So, just follow the law and deport them.
    The USA Citizens Don’t want amnesty in any form whatsoever.
    The politicians on all sides are afraid to do the right thing for the USA on this, and many other issues.
    They would rather sell the “American People” out than disappoint the special interests.
    Granting amnesty to any illegal alien, of any kind, is an assault on the USA Citizens and the USA Constitution.
    We can not allow it happen.

  • Murphmeister

    If Americans believe the government was shot down for the sake of these illegal ” Dreamers “, the Dems will pay a terrible price.

  • Eric

    Go for it Libs,……. shut it down in favor of ILLEGALITY and see where that gets you in the election cycle of 2108 ! ! ! PLEASE go for it ! ! !

  • 2War Abn Vet

    We’re talking about hundreds of thousands of democrat voters here. There’s no way the left will surrender them without tears and bloodshed.

  • AKLady

    First they came for the Communists, and You did not speak out—
    Because You were not a Communist.

    Then they came for the Muslims, and You did not speak out—
    Because You were not a Muslim

    Then they came for the Hispanics and You did not speak out—
    Because You were not a Hispanics..

    Then they came for the Poor and You did not speak out —
    Because You were not Poor.

    Then they came for the Disabled and You did not speak out –
    Because You were not Disabled.

    Then they came for the Jews, and You did not speak out—
    Because You were not a Jew.

    Then they came for the Elderly, and You did not speak out –
    Because You were not Elderly.

    Then they came for You—and there was no one left to speak for You.
    …. ( a variation on Martin Niemoller’s famous poem).

  • IMSweetOlBob

    Yeah ! Shut down the government the way the little muslim fraud did !
    Maaybe you can find some more WWll veterans to “really hurt”.
    But don’t forget to keep on paying the bureaucrats, also the way Barry did.
    We can’t be offending our major voter base, can we.

  • Jmanjo

    Why should anyone in their right mind defend a bunch of people who got some benes from an illegal order in the first place! There should never have been DACA period. Another Obama screw up

  • Diana Schneider

    As far as Daca IS CONCERNED it is finished President eliminated it. to the Moron Democrats Get over it and quit Crying like a baby in Dippers which you all are!!

  • AKLady

    How does a baby in arms commit a crime?
    Please tell us, oh wise one.

  • old_salty_dawg99

    I say let them try to shut down things then hammer them everyday till they are up for election. The only real solution for the so called dreamers is simple send them back with their parents. They should not get to stay here no matter what age they got here. Those who were born here to those here ILLEGALLY should either be given up for adoption or after their photo, fingerprints and a DNA sample it taken sent back with the parents till they reach 18. If at that age they wish to return allow them to. But to hold the Nation hostage for anyone is WRONG and they should pay and it should be a heavy price.

  • Aunt Nonnie S

    STOP CALLING THEM KIDS!!! Most of them have been adults for years, and should be able to make their own way without government help. If they need help they can ask the irresponsible parents who brought them here.