Criminalized Colorado Cake-Baker Says He’s Faced Death Threats

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(Kaylee McGhee, Liberty Headlines) Business owner Jack Phillips stands to lose his livelihood after the Colorado Civil Rights Commission ordered his bakery, Masterpiece Cakeshop, to either provide cakes for every type of marital ceremony, or close his doors.

In a Facebook Live interview with the North Carolina Values Coalition on Tuesday night, Phillips explained how he’s fought the government since 2012, when he refused to sell a wedding cake to a same-sex couple, citing his religious belief that marriage is between one man and one woman.

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“I was denied the freedom to choose what cakes I can make and what cakes I can decline to make,” he said.

David Mullins and Charlie Craig—the gay grooms-to-be—sued Phillips, almost costing him his business.

On May 30, 2014 the Colorado Civil Rights Commission determined that Masterpiece Cakeshop unlawfully discriminated against Mullins and Craig by refusing to sell them a wedding cake, regardless of his religious convictions. He was given two choices—sell wedding cakes to anyone who wants one, or shut down.

Phillips chose his faith.

“My issue is that I don’t want to be forced to participate in a same-sex wedding,” Phillips told KCNC-TV in Denver, noting that he had “no problem” with preparing cakes and other desserts for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) customers in other circumstances.

Phillips has sued for his right to conduct his business according to his religious beliefs, with the help of a local attorney and the Alliance Defending Freedom, a nonprofit organization that provides legal representation in many such cases.

“This is not about the people who asked for a cake; It’s about the message the cake communicates,” said ADF-allied attorney Nicolle Martin of Lakewood, who is serving as co-counsel in the case. “No artist should be punished for declining to promote ideas or participate in events when they disagree with the message communicated.”

Phillips’s story is one in a string of recent attempts by the government to silence Christian conservatives. The Washington State Supreme Court ruled on Thursday that Baronelle Stutzman, owner of Arlene’s Flowers, had also discriminated against a same-sex couple for declining to provide bouquets for their ceremony.

“You have to make a stand somewhere in your life on what you believe and what you don’t believe,” Stutzman told CBN in an interview. “It was just a time I had to take a stand.”

Like Phillips, Stutzman is fighting the ruling, and plans to take her case all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

In his interview with the NC Values Coalition, Phillips said he was surprised the event was initiated by a government action, claiming it is the government’s job to protect our rights and freedoms, not to violate them by forcing citizens to comply with its policies.

Now, Phillips said, he is forced to face the repercussions of standing for what he believes—including fines, vulgar phone calls, and even death threats.

“I got a call from a gentleman that said he was on his way to come and shoot me,” Phillips said. “He told me what streets he was on, what turns he was making, and that he even knew my daughter was in the shop with me.”

While Phillips said he refuses to back down, he decided Masterpiece Cakeshop will no longer sell wedding cakes in order to refrain from violating both the law and his conscience. He said he has lost 40 percent of his business in the process.

“Basically, I stand to lose everything,” Phillips said. “Weddings are a huge part of our business. But this was the easiest way to comply with the state law.”

Jeremy Tedesco, ADF’s senior counsel, said both Phillips’s and Stutzman’s cases are about the government infringing on citizens’ religious freedom.

“No one—not Jack or anyone else—should be forced by the government to further a message that they cannot in good conscience promote,” he said. “We are asking the U.S. Supreme Court to ensure that government understands that its duty is to protect the people’s freedom to follow their beliefs personally and professionally, not force them to violate those beliefs as the price of earning a living.”

Phillips said he hopes the U.S. Supreme Court will allow him to continue doing what he loves, without violating his religious convictions.

“God is bigger than this situation,” he said. “We turn our faith to Him and trust Him to do what is right and just.”

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  • Mickey Miller

    Christian persecution has begun. This is but the tip of the iceberg. If you see the online rhetoric against Christianity and Judaism of late you will see it clearly. True persecution is just around the corner. Have faith, don’t compromise your faith and pray. The Lord our GOD has your back. We may suffer for it, but He see’s our struggle and rejoices at our Love for Him and His Son. The light ,the way ,and the truth for evermore.

    • John

      It is easy to understand why Eastern Europe had more Christians holding on to their faith than did Western Europe due to persecution and censorship of Christianity due to communist manifestos. When the Berlin Wall fell and East Germans came pouring in, it was found that more than 90% of the East Germans held onto their belief in God and many their faiths. In China, there are more than 80 million that are Christian now and many in underground churches that refuse to be part of the state’s sanctioned churches which China wants you to see but hides their persecution of Christians yet Christianity grows fast and there is nothing they can do to stop it, even through imprisonment and even torture. I suppose many, no matter how educated, will not ever learn from the history of persecution. As for the Jews, they have suffered persecution for milleniums and so far are batting a thousand on surviving through at least 12 empires throughout history trying to exterminate them and several attempts in the 20th century. BTW, all the empires either fell or cease to be world powers or powers in their regions.

      • kenhowes

        unfortunately, church attendance isn’t good in the former East Germany, other than in a couple of areas where the local Lutherans formed a focal point for resistance to the DDR in the days leading up to the fall of the Wall.

      • Marie Saqueton

        America has more communist organizations than any country in the world. We have at least 12 of them documented, UK has 7, Germany 2. France 1 and the rest is below 3. What does that say to all this protests which are funded by them? They want to CRASH our economy so we will be forced to join their NEW WORLD ORDER,they the ruling elites and we the tax paying slaves. Wake up America.

        • cvxxx

          NWO is an oligarchy and has nothing to do with communism and a lot to do with a new nobility.

    • Amen. Stay the course trust God

    • Vernon Devine

      Stupid comment. When you serve the public you do not discriminate against any identified protected group. The stupidity of conservatives truly amazes me. Do you have to be stupid to be a conservative???

      • Stoney

        You have to be stupid to not be a conservative.

        • Vernon Devine

          I have been a liberal since my late teens and realized conservatives live in the past and are not open to new ideas and are rather closed minded. Voted for one Republican in my life and he lost!

          • Stoney

            Well you sure proved your cluelessness

      • EdWatts

        Why are certain groups “protected”? As for “discriminating”, would it be all right with you if a retail business “discriminated” against people with no means to make a purchase? How about people who are fighting in the store?

        Do you have a lot of conservative friends with whom you spend a great deal of time?

        No?

        Why, you’re DISCRIMINATING!

        It’s interesting that most liberals’ arguments begin with some sort of name-calling, which is followed by hoary, old talking points. The inability of liberals to think logically and critically truly amazes me, especially since their arrogance leads them to believe themselves to be much smarter than others.

        Every liberal believes himself to be “the smartest one in the room”!

        • j. Tirado

          That’s the problem, these people think they are special, a ‘protected group’ when they are no more special than any other group of people. That comment right there shows homosexual’s think they are so very special, above all of us regular folks. Not all homosexuals think that way though, just the ones who think their ‘special’ deviant lifestyles deserve to be protected and forced in the face of the regular folks…

          • reaaltalk

            Who died and made you the
            judge of “deviant” lifestyles?
            In my opinion Jim Bakker and Donald Trump committing adultery is just as deviant, but people here would glorify them as Christians!! Worse than any homosexuality is hypocrisy which runs rampant amongst American Christians who act most un-Christ like when it comes to accepting war refugees or undocumented migrants doing the hard labor to feed their families and do the menial jobs most won’t consider like picking apples in orchards.

          • j. Tirado

            We are all sinners, one sin is no worst than the other. The difference is, Jim Bakker, President Trump, and myself ( none is without sin except Jesus) don’t ask to be a special protected class of sinners, like some homosexuals do, and don’t try to FORCE Baker’s, florist’s, etc to participate in our SINS…

          • Marie Saqueton

            Amen. We believe that the punishment of God is without a sound or a pole to hang on to….one is helpless. God’s timing is perfect, ours is flawed.

          • Jim H.

            And yet, Liberals refuse to accept the fact that there is a difference between Refugees of War and Known Terrorists portraying to be refugees.
            And FYI, no one individual is no more special than the next. THAT is what separates REAL AMERICANS and TRUE Patriots from the whinning pompous animals.

            Act like a human being instead of animals and/or babies. I could care less if you’re gay, Muslim, or even purple. Just pull your head out of your backside and learn the meaning of a word called “Compromise”.

          • Marie Saqueton

            I wish and pray these protesters will stop and respect our elected Pres. who is saddled with a HERCULEAN JOB TO DO. FiRST AND FOREMOST IS OUR DEFENSE that has been degraded by Obama and now we are facing the Chinese DF21D missile that can obliterate all our aircraft carriers & Subs. in the Pacific and can detonate massive electro magnetic bombs that will disable all our defense systems in all our aircraft and subs. protecting the Pacific region and even CA etc. The Chinese military has taken over the Islands close to Japan. Philippines, Taiwan, Singapore,Thailand, Malaysia, Australia and set up Air bases there to launch these deadly missiles that can even reach CA. Trump has launch a new Technology to combat these missiles called “Mach 7 Cannon” that can obliterate these deadly Chinese missiles that can disable all our defense weapons. All our Subs. and Aircraft carriers will be loaded with this “Mach 7” and will keep us safe. That is why Russia is afraid of China and would like to be friends with us. Second greatest job that Pres. Trump has to do is to prevent our currency from losing the status as the no.1 DOMINANT reserve currency in world trade, which the IMF and its 185 member countries are trying to replace the dollar with their “NEW WORLD CURRENCY the SDR) When that happens, we will have deflation, because all the world’s Central Banks will dump the dollar in favor of the SDR (Special Drawing Rights) controlled by the IMF and many member countries.The New world currency has no DEBT. Because of the massive DEBT the Obama administration has amassed, $20,TRILLION in only 8 years, the IMF had no other choice but to downgrade our currency, no thanks to Obama and DEMONCRATS. Of course the leftist, biased mainstream media will never report this very urgent problem for our country because they are “puppets” of the left. Try reading unbiased government reports and financial reports of credible analysts and never believe the liars on TV. Wake up America.

          • Vernon Devine

            Well said!

        • bcmarshall

          Why are certain groups protected? Are you kidding me? It’s because of people just like YOU that they need it.

          And the groups are so broad that they include you, too. Race, religion, national origin, gender, and soon sexual identity.

          That would mean that gay business owners could not refuse to serve you because you’re not gay (at least I assume you’re not). Women business owners could not refuse you because you’re male.

          Someone can’t call you a Polak, Wop, Paddy, or any other ethnic name and then refuse to serve you based on those views. And you can’t tell someone he’s a Towelhead and tell him to get out.

          A Muslim store owner can’t tell you to get out because you call yourself Christian, any more than a Muslim can be thrown out by a Christian. Two edges of the same sword, and, hang on, “equal protection”. Now THAT’S a novel idea!

          Your wife can’t be told she can’t work somewhere because she’s female.

          Yes, they protect everyone from blanket discrimination, including you. You’re just too big a fool to understand that you’re part of it, too.

          And how absolutely idiotic can your comment be? You think that refusing someone service because of any of those things is the same as telling people who are fighting to get out? Are you really serious? Or is it just that you can’t think of any argument to back your position and so you’re grasping at anything?

          How many liberal friends do you have, Ed? How much time do you spend with them?

          Who you or I choose to spend our personal time with is not the same as providing equal access to public accommodations to everyone. It just goes to show how twisted up you conservatives are that you can’t even see that without it being beaten over your head.

          I’ll try to make it simple so even you can understand. Discrimination for any reason is wrong.

          Go ahead. Tell me how I’m unable to think logically and you, because of your great alt-right mind, understand all this and still think you have an argument against it.

          Which group’s protections do you NOT fall under?

          • EdWatts

            I would wager that I have more liberal friends than you — I’m a musician.

            I believe that any business owner* should be able to refuse service to anyone for any reason, just as a homeowner should not be forced to allow just anyone into his house. If one is not welcome at a particular business, no matter the reason, he is free to find another place to trade. If the business provides some critical service, and there is no competition within a reasonable distance…

            …Well, I would expect that the proprietor would make some allowances, even if only to avoid the public outcry. Providing a cake or flowers for a wedding is not a critical service.

            ” You’re just too big a fool to understand that you’re part of it, too. And how absolutely idiotic can your comment be?…I’ll try to make it simple so even you can understand. Discrimination for any reason is wrong.”

            Ah, yes, the insults. I suppose that those remarks make you “the smartest one in the room”! I must assume, then, that you have selected your friends and spouse via some purely random method; if not, you, too, have discriminated and, no doubt, continue to do so. It would also seem that I am welcome at your dinner table if I should happen to be in your neighborhood some evening (logic). Also, note that you have cast yourself neatly into the place I described in my above post.

            *With the exception of emergency medical personnel

          • bcmarshall

            You can “believe that any business owner should be able to refuse service to anyone” if you want to. It doesn’t mean the world has to go along with is just because you believe it.

            Are you old enough to remember the lunch counter sit-ins of the Civil Rights era? Owners believed they didn’t have to serve black folk. Guess what? The law said they did.

            Explain the difference, please.

          • j. Tirado

            Race, disability, etc is different than a LIFESTYLE choice. That’s the difference. Keep your lifestyle preference to yourself, I’ll keep mine to myself. I don’t force mine on you, you don’t force yours on me. It’s all about trying to force people to accept your lifestyle – we are all free to say ‘ No thank you.’

          • Vernon Devine

            What is a lifestyle choice/preference in your mind?? Are you referring to sexual orientation (which is not a choice) or are you thinking of religion or hobbies or what?

          • bcmarshall

            Awesome, Vernon. If anything being discussed here is a lifestyle choice, it’s religion.

          • Charles

            you can believe that lie if you want to but it is a choice to live that evil life style.

          • Vernon Devine

            You are out of date in your thinking. Try joining the modern world and check positions of major medical, psychiatric, and psycholgical organizations. You will discover you are on the wrong side in this debate according to these experts. Of course you have the right to be wrong and an idiot but you will get nowhere with your ignorant ideas.

          • Vernon Devine

            Well said. Some people seem to forget or never learned about that era of our country.

        • Vernon Devine

          I think your logical flaw is overgeneralizing. I am more impressed with the arrogance of conservatives than liberals. Trump is the most extreme example of stupid arrogance I have ever heard or seen. He needs to resign for the good of the country.

          • EdWatts

            Of course. Barry and Hillary were NEVER “arrogant”!
            [lol]

          • Marie Saqueton

            Obama and Hillary would have led our country to Communism. Read their background on what they were all about in college and who mentored them. Saul Alinsky’s book, “Rules for Radicals”, is their bible. BO is not going to stop, he already organized his shadow party linked activists to sabotage Trump’s Presidency. Some of the Demoncrat party members are all in support of his schemes and they won’t quit until they can cause “civil unrest” in this country. Like the COMMUNIST CREDO: First they infiltrate then they dominate. Watch what you ask for America, the 12 communist organizations in USA are now very active to crash our economy and our country. They already infiltrated our mainstream media, our unions, our schools, our government agencies, and now even some of our courts. No matter what your personal prejidices against pres. Trump, it behooves you to be aware of those who will sabotage his great agenda for our country, coming from the LEFT. Trump’s drive for growth & prosperity is what Economists calls the “PROFIT-INVESTMENT NEXUS”…NOT GOVERNMENT “FIAT MONEY” PRINTING LIKE WHAT OBAMA DID.

          • EdWatts

            Indeed.

          • Marie Saqueton

            Instead of insulting our President, why not pray for his safety, good health and the wisdom to lead our country to greatness again. China and North Korea is our biggest threat now and he has to tackle that. Then the terrorists entering our country bent on doing us harm. Also our “reserve currency” standing in global trade which is now being replaced with the International Monetary Fund = SDR, the NEW WORLD MONEY. WHEN THE SHIFT TO THE SDR HAPPENS, WE ARE TOAST, BECAUSE ALL CENTRAL BANKS OF THE WORLD WILL BUY THE SDR FOR THEIR RESERVE CURRENCY FOR TRADE. In the 50’s we took over the British pound to dominate the seven countries in the “reserve currency basket” and the velocity of our dollar made our economy great. All Central Banks of the world were using our currency as their reserve currency to trade all over the world and our crooked politicians could print money without justifying what backs it up because our dollar was the dominant currency, a privilege we are now losing. We are the world’s biggest economy, but we are also the world’s biggest DEBTOR. Trump inherited that mess, so we need to pray for him and not insult him. Insults don’t create peace, it creates hate and disinformation to the masses which leads to civil unrest.

        • Vernon Devine

          You must be doing a lot of research to have learned all that! Actually of course you are an ignoramus who does not know what he is talking about. Try getting educated, it will be a new and good experience for you.

          • EdWatts

            Please, stop! You’re embarrassing yourself in front of a lot of people!

            You are, obviously, out of your league, placing yourself on public display with your poor command of the English language (evidenced by a missing preposition (“of”), comma insertion failures, comma splice[s] of independent clauses, and so on) and with your indisputable inability to think cogently and critically (evidenced by your backward-logic politics). You might believe that you have a “second” — or, even, a “savior” — in Mr. Marshall, but, he, too, has been vanquished; although he doesn’t yet know it and, probably, never will.

            Your “education”, lacking as it is, must have been provided by one of the many leftist, America-hating indoctrination centers. They have done you no favors by sending you out into the [real] world believing that your tragic attempts to match wits with me and others like me will cause you appear to be anything but inadequate and pathetic. On the other hand, your glaringly poor understanding of the language indicates that you might never have been inside the gates of a university, having had your written-expression and critical-thinking skills and abilities controlled, directed, and destroyed by America’s [socialist] public schools, stopping at grade twelve.

            Or “worse”!

            Anyway, go to bed, now, and sleep it off; tomorrow will be a new day, and you can go punch that clock and believe that your feeble attempts at this Site have changed anyone’s world or, even, attitude.

            They haven’t.

            Done. I would house you, give you water, and feed you (Indeed, I probably do, through my taxes!); but, at my house, you would be relegated to the children’s table.

            That would be not all bad for you, though; they watch television during meals!

            Let the name-calling start!

          • Donna Crumpler

            Who died and appointed you the “Savior of the world”?

      • Derek

        Holy moley you must have the brains of a jello mold? It’s obvious you read everything but see nothing. I suggest you find a nice comfy green house to live out the rest of your days. If left to your own devices you will probably hurt yourself!

      • dragonfire777

        No. But definitely for a Libertard.

      • mensatim

        Vernon, why don’t you actually read The First Amendment? It says, ” Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…” They are in the right, you are simply wrong.

        • Vernon Devine

          I agree with the first amendment so I do not understand what you are saying or trying to say.

          • mensatim

            Great, so you actually agree that Christians should not be forced to violate their Christian beliefs and that using governmental force to do that is wrong and unconstitutional. Thanks.

      • boccagalupe

        Vernon (not very) Devine, What makes them a protected group Is it their debauchery, is it their ignorance of the laws of God? They are protected because they are degenerate. Pure and simple.

        • Vernon Devine

          Not true. You can check all the medical/psychiatric/psychological professional organizations and you will find that homosexuality is considered normal by all of them. Gays can marry, adopt children, and lead normal lives so try joining the modern world if that is possible for you. Conservative Christianity is out of step with the modern world and need to catch up or just stay the way they are and become irrelevant to the modern world. It is their choice.

          • mensatim

            Yes, that’s because they no longer admit that certain mental conditions are actually illnesses. They have normalized these conditions because they realize that they can’t be ‘cured’, so why bother. They have been looking for the homosexual/lesbian gene for decades and they can’t find it. Since it is not particularly that unusual for identical twins to have opposite sexual preferences, they never will. The whole nature vs. nurture debate comes up. Since even identical twins relate to their parents differently, it is almost certainly a nurture equation, rather than a nature equation. It’s not that Christianity, of any stripe is out of step with the modern world. Rather it is that the left has normalized things that are not acceptable from a religious/moral perspective. You can believe whatever you want to, BUT, in this country, you have to grant them the same right.

          • Charles

            Christianity is not going anywhere and all you believe to be true is a lie.

          • Vernon Devine

            You are a stupid Christian. Probably believe Jesus came from 2 eggs. Such idiocy. Also nobody comes back from the dead after 7 days of being dead. The Christian religion is not credible in the modern world.

        • Vernon Devine

          Your pure and simple is wrong and stupid. Do not take my word for it, search medical, psychological and psychiatric literature and read it yourself so you can see your ignorance and become educated. Laws of God comment is baloney. It is not related to modern science and is out of date. People who do not get educated and then make ignorant comments (like you) should be responsible and get educated and correct their erroneous thinking.

      • Robert Johnson

        No you have to be a liberal.

      • Robert Johnson

        So then are you not discriminating against my belief as a conservative? I think so… Your belief of intellectual superiority is skewed.

      • Steve H

        Typical communist insults. Completely misinformed private businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone, at least that used to be the case before communism started being taught in our schools. “Protected groups” what are they wildlife? No ones rights can supersede anothers. Your probably just an angry government worker.

        • Vernon Devine

          If you serve the public you cannot discriminate.

      • Sueja

        When you are a private company why should the state tell you how to run your company. Can they tell you when to open and close or what holidays to celebrate by closing and what days of the week they have to open.If you are a restaurant can they tell you you can’t serve pork.The government needs to back off and quit dictating to privately owned companies what they can and cannot believe. If I want to sell Christmas ornaments that depict a manger scene I should be able to but according to you the state can stop me.

        • Vernon Devine

          WHAT? You can sell whatever religious things you want if you follow the business laws in your state!

          • Sueja

            Exactly

    • Louie Rey

      It hasn’t begun. It’s continuing on a constant and daily basis and has been for quite some time now. Hasn’t there been a war on Christmas for decades now? I rest my case. But Allah forbid you should even think out loud about this scourge then you’re at the very least ostracized if not physically attacked. Yep-, Freedom of Religion is alive and well, NOT!

      • Vernon Devine

        War on Christmas? I missed that one. There may be some limitations regarding using public property for Christmas decorations or religious symbols but we are exposed to lots of Christmas paraphernalia, none the less, every December.

        • Louie Rey

          I think you’re being selective in your “outrage.” Forget Christmas for the time being, throughout the year there’s writings and other forms of expression that clearly denounce Christianity which seems to be tolerated by the media. But, Allah forbid, you were to state or even insinuate a similar dislike, if you will, of Islam you’d be subject to a stoning and I don’t mean a stoning of a rock concert type.

    • Pastor C

      Amen, brother!

    • stonecold621

      but just in case, prepare to fight back…fiercely

    • Karen Davis

      How come we NEVER hear or see about a case for a Muslim owned shop since I know they have them and they are REALLY against gay marriage even to the death. This is about selective religious freedom since I know the LGBT would NEVER try them.

    • jan

      Amen!

  • gerald Hughes

    There is no point in continuing to deal with the liberal; dem bloodsucking parasitical scum.
    We all know what we are going to have to do, why are we waiting?

    • Vernon Devine

      Insanity! You comment may be unlawful, as it seems to be encouraging violence toward others. Try to be sane.

      • gerald Hughes

        Oh look, it’s ole Vernon the pervert.
        Why don’t you turn me in, pervert?
        Let me know who you turned me in to, I’ll contact them and tell them how to find me.
        Why are you still alive Vernon,. you have no merit, no worth, no value, no morals, no honor and no integrity, you are breathing air and occupying space that a human being could be using.

  • John

    The Democrats is fraught with double-standards and shows no interest or inclination to shift wind. Had this been a liberal gay person refusing a Christian to bake a cake with a Christian symbol or phrases, they would defend the gay bakers to the death. The persons who hurt the Christian bakers business should pay for damages to their lost business to deter these kinds of lawsuits but during the Obama Democratic agenda, it was obvious where their hearts lie.

    • j. Tirado

      If I went to a gay bakery to ask for a cake with a cross to serve at my church and the gay baker politely declined as he didn’t feel comfortable, most people, I believe, would just go somewhere else and respect their right to decline your business – why can’t homosexuals do the same? I just don’t understand why they want to force people to do something they are against….

      • Vernon Devine

        Making a cake with decorations gay or straight should not be a big deal. So stupid!

        • EdWatts

          And performing [email protected]+!0 doesn’t take very long, especially if you’re “good”! What will you do when Big Brother holds a [figurative or literal] gun to you head, demanding that you fulfill Bruce’s wishes?

          “Hey, guys! It’s at Vern;s house today!”

          • Vernon Devine

            You are insane!

      • bcmarshall

        Maybe they don’t like being discriminated against. Gee, is that so hard for you to understand? Maybe they refuse to accept second-class citizenship imposed on them by a Christofascist.

        • j. Tirado

          OK, is it so hard for you to understand people don’t want to be forced to do something they’re opposed to? That’s why there’s no point having discussions with some people. You people want to force folks to do things they’re against, violate their beliefs. I don’t want to force you to do things you’re against – that’s the problem. Lets agree to disagree…Have a good night…

      • John

        Agreed!!!

    • bcmarshall

      “Had this been a liberal gay person refusing a Christian to bake a cake
      with a Christian symbol or phrases, they would defend the gay bakers to
      the death.”

      Has this ever happened anywhere, or is this another “Bowling Green Massacre” moment of alt-right drivel?

  • gerrod

    Funny how in the states where democrats control the government there is complete disregard for 1st and 2nd amendment rights. Religious liberty is non-exsistant and the rule of law for all citizens is disregarded in favor of “protected” minorities, identity politics, and political correctness. In the cases of Colorado, Oregon, and Washington fascism is alive and thriving.

    • GGH44

      Don’t forget California.

    • Vernon Devine

      What have you been drinking??

  • Star Wright

    Brother Phillips, has rights also.
    And his rights are being pushed around.
    All homosexuals, should hang there heads in SHAME.

  • Gary

    Liberalism & homosexuality are mental disorders.

    • Oh but they claim to have open minds. What they don’t realize is that their opened minds are empty

      • Stoney

        I was just about to say an empty mind and an open mind are not the same thing.

    • Vernon Devine

      Wrong!

      • Gary

        That’s right! You’re WRONG!

  • Joe the Nobody

    Hey Colorado Civil Rights Commission, go find a Muslim bakery and try that one. They’ll stick a gun in your rat faces and tell you to go pound salt. You wouldn’t have the GUTS to do it anyway.

    • Pastor C

      You beat me to the punch on that one!

    • Pamela Burks

      Agreed! Let a gay couple get a Muslim Owned Bakery to bake their Wedding Cakes! The Toppers will Probably be Headless!

      • Fed up!

        Hey they probably bake the cake. Muzzie men are gay, they just put up a false persona of anti- gay.

    • bcmarshall

      And you know that how? Are you from Colorado? Have you ever been to a Muslim bakery? Has a Muslim business owner ever told you to “go pound salt”?

      Or are you just spouting from your southern body orifice the typical crap that people like Trump and his minions say?

      Like, “Sweden! Can you believe what happened in Sweden”? Or the “Bowling Green massacre”?

      And the alt-right like you believe them hook, line, and sinker.

  • LBC1689

    Whatever happened to the protections enshrined in the First Amendment? As someone here has observed, its protections apparently go only one way when Christians are involved. It is evident that those who would put these folks out of business hate Christ, hate His truth, and hate His people. Yes, I do believe that active persecution of Christians may not be too far around the corner unless God in His mercy brings our country to its knees and back to Himself in repentance and faith.

    • Vernon Devine

      Crazy and a bit paranoid. I am confident you are safe!!!

      • LBC1689

        Who? You or me?

  • Last of the patriots

    It’s time for a new crusades backed by God. Only God will prevail, and Satan’s minions will be put back in He**! God bless America!!!

    • Vernon Devine

      Do you really think there is a God? It seems like a primitive idea to me.

  • Daniel Pearson

    These type of person “gay” intentionally target Christian businesses to close down the spread of Christianity and in going do the liberal gays get millions of dollars to continue the vile was. There many bakeries that would bake a cake for them. I know most large grocery stores would including Walmart. These cakes would not as good as they frozen then thawed and decorated but so be it. One comment said these persecution of Christians and he correct just as it was in former times. The lions this are the gay groups and their lawyers. It will only get worse. Stand firm with God and may he bless you.

    • Vernon Devine

      Truly you are nuts. Businesses that serve the public are not permitted to discriminate against protected classes. If the business does not serve public it may be a different story. Remember the sit ins in the South where Blacks could not sit at the counter? That got changed.

      • Marie Saqueton

        You are comparing apples to oranges. This is not about RACE, the issue here is the Moral and Lifestyle.

      • Charles

        It got changed because of conservative republicans. It was because of republicans that the slaves were freed and the civil rights bill passed.

  • ChuckW

    It’s time for a “Liberty Preservation Act” which includes the following clarification of Discrimination and Liberty (freedom):

    Discrimination is NOT a Constitutional principle, because this word is not in the Constitution. Some people speak and act as if it is. The Constitutional Principle/word is Liberty.
    Liberty is, in fact, our right as individuals (persons and entities such as a baker) TO discriminate – to make our own decisions whether others agree or not. If this is not true, then what real meaning does Liberty have? There is no Constitutional right to be “protected” from other people’s decisions we don’t like.

    Government’s duty is protect “Liberty for all”. Government that prohibits Individual Discrimination is anti-Liberty. The 1964 Civil Rights Law rightly corrected the denial of Individual Liberty (via segregation laws) to Black People. Before that law took effect, Black People were denied the Liberty to choose what water fountain, restroom, restaurant, school, etc. they could use. Unfortunately, discussion and law making since then, have been unconstitutionally framed around discrimination. Focus must now be shifted from discrimination to Liberty, the Constitutional principle. If we don’t make this change, then illegitimate non-discrimination laws will continue to destroy Individual Liberty. Societal Discrimination is the only form of discrimination that government has legitimate authority to address, because ONLY Societal Discrimination (the reality for Black People) denies Liberty. Proliferation of illegitimate non-discrimination laws must be stopped.

    • Marie Saqueton

      It is the LIFESTYLE and MORAL VALUES that is the issue here, not RACE.

  • Joey

    As long as he continues to take a stand and holds on to his beliefs, he will ultimately be the winner. Remember it is God that’s keeping the score card.
    This has been going on ever since the exit of the garden of Eden. At the end of days the believer will win forever!

  • playsoftball

    They should have the right to refuse service just as Resturanunts do. Maybe a little err a lot of exlax would be tasty. Both take orders & serve food. Seems the Bible hating people who make these rulings need to go. Here is another reason Trump needs to pass thar freedom of religion act.

    • Mr. President this is urgent protect our Christian values , immediately get freedom of religion act passed.

      • Pastor C

        He doesn’t have to wait for Congress to act. All he has to do is overturn Barry’s executive orders defending/protecting the LGBT agenda.

        But he cannot permit Ivanka to be to him what Valerie Jarrett was to Barry.

        No one elected her, or her husband, to anything!

        We elected Trump and expect him to do what he, repeatedly, said he’d do to protect us and Christians like this from losing everything he owns simply because he refuses to violate his conscience.

        • Vernon Devine

          You are delusional, your not going to lose anything. Try not being hysterical if that is possible go you to do.

          • Pastor C

            How sad it is you know as little about this subject as you do.

            Not that you really care (because I know you don’t, if you think me to be ‘delusional’) but Christians all over the nation have been severely punished and persecuted for precisely the same reason as Mr. Phillips.

            For you to think otherwise is delusional!

    • bcmarshall

      Which restaurant can legally refuse to serve an entire class of people?

      • playsoftball

        I doubt any ‘Class’ was mentioned in any discussion. But rather something else. I have seen signs “We reserve the right to refuse service you or anyone.” in many states over the years. CA, TX, KS, NV, AZ
        So look at mom & pop places if you care to, but I doubt you’ll find them any longer in large chains these days because the economy is just not starting to come back from a 10 YEAR DROUGHT. In small chains some still have them. Find them on your own.

      • Marie Saqueton

        Lots in the suburbs.

        • bcmarshall

          Name one.

          Don’t pull a Trump on me and try to cite some meaningless opinion as fact.

          Clearly, if you have such personal knowledge that there are “lots in the suburbs”, you should be able to name one!

  • Hanna Mantour

    he should have said that he is a muslim and the case will be thrown out instead.

    • Marie Saqueton

      Thanks for a good laugh….you are funny.

  • Richard cianfrone

    The AIDS ridden sodimite pos threatened the baker ? Right now you are feeling chest pains ! You enemies of everything good.
    Revelation 11:5.

    • bcmarshall

      You can’t even spell your own slur, “sodomite” correctly.

      What a fool.

      • Richard cianfrone

        Sodomite, the phone glithed ! That’s important, not the content ? You treasonous idiot ! What’s your problem ? I guess you hate the president, but we’re all hoping for the best.

      • Marie Saqueton

        Can’t you take that as a typho error, and refrain from insulting him?

  • It is time to impeach liberal lawless judges that violate the Constitution and individual rights and disbarr them.

    • Pastor C

      Way past time!

    • Vernon Devine

      You are dreaming or out of your mind.

      • Marie Saqueton

        He is correct because our Judicial courts are now infiltrated by Communist leaning judges evidenced by current court interpretations of our laws.

        • Vernon Devine

          The communist scare went away a long time ago. You are a stupid person, devoid of the facts.

          • Charles

            Your so void of truth i am not sure you know your own name.
            I will call you stupid

    • Charles

      Start with 9th circuit

  • Jim

    This is the bs that is so important to the left! To all of you career politicians, you created this mess!

  • I would hope that the new administration, now that it has an Attorney General, will put an end to this kind of crap. We also need at least one and maybe two more Justices who can actually read the Constitution for what it specifically says.

    • Vernon Devine

      You think you are smarter than the justices, but you are just another idiot who is not smart enough to understand the law.

      • Vernon,
        I can and do read the Constitution. I also spent time at College of William and Mary researching the Continental Congress and the Constitutional Convention. I know what Madison, Jefferson and the founding fathers established the Bill of Rights. I also know that separation of church and state is not in the Constitution. I also know where it came from and it had nothing to do with the Supreme Court’s “interpretation” of it.

      • Marie Saqueton

        Do you have to be insulting when Jerry was just voicing his disgust on the unfairness, and the justices making up their own laws based on their own prejudices instead of actually reading and interpreting the Constitution?

        • Vernon Devine

          Amazing stupidity. Justices take their responsibilities seriously. You just do not like reality.

          • Marie Saqueton

            The STUPID ONE IS STARING AT YOU IN YOUR MIRROR. Why don’t you google the Communist party of America and learn something which you are completely in denial or ignorant of?

          • Vernon Devine

            I am not interested in the Communist Party in the country, it is not a factor here.

    • Marie Saqueton

      Give them time, they have only been there for a month and BO (bad odor) had set this mess up for 8 long years.

      • Marie,
        I am liking my chops over what is coming. I can hardly wait.

  • Mr. Phillips stick to your faith and trust in God he will see you through and in the end you will shine as the Stars. Oh Lord release your Fury on those who are persecuting Mr. Phillips for his love for you, in Jesus name Amen.

    • Pastor C

      Amen!

  • LaMar Olsen

    The time is coming that you and everything you believe in will be on your faithfulness .Make your lives so that when your time comes to stand for your beliefs that your standing. On a firm foundation of faith in god

    • Pastor C

      Oh, how true! How true, indeed!

  • Pastor C

    This is, precisely, the type of blatantly-unconstitutional behavior the Trump administration vowed to overturn!

    Instead, he listened to his daughter and son-in-law and decided to affirm Barry’s executive orders, protecting the LBGT agenda that deliberately violates and maliciously disregards our First Amendment religious liberties, leaving Christians like this vulnerable to this kind of rank religious persecution.

    Mr. President, this was a major campaign promise you made to Christians; the very sector of the voting populace that was principally responsible for you, now, being in the White House.

    Where are you?

  • Louie Rey

    So much for freedom of religion. I agree 100% with this guy’s choice to not provide cakes to people who are antithetical to his beliefs. I mean it’s his business, right? It should just be looked upon as a business decision from anyone else on the outside. If he ends up making less of a profit because he’s not supplying these particular types of weddings or celebrations then it’s money that’s not going into his pocket so only he suffers. However, he’s suffering due to his own decision which he should be entitled to. But NOOOOOO, in this hyper PC world, he’s being made to kowtow to someone else’s wants. And if he doesn’t? Well, he gets death threats. Isn’t that special?

  • ADBDAB

    Another family losing their business if they continue to run the bakery the way they have in the past. LEFTS WANT YOU TO MAKE A GAY CAKE.

  • MILES E DRAKE

    The rationale for the continued and increasingly violent agitation by sodomites and transvestites against those opposed in conscience to participating in same-sex unions is clear. At a stroke they can cripple or close private businesses and ruin businesspeople, thereby advancing socialist economic transformation, persecute Christianity and further the development of an official atheist cult in its place and strike a blow for the eventual abolition of heterosexual monogamy and its replacement by promiscuous communal polyamory. Their goal is nothing more nor less than the dissolution of American culture and society and its replacement with a combination of Guatemala and Gomorrah, if possible killing as many heterosexuals and Christians in the process as possible.

    • Marie Saqueton

      They don’t have to wait long if terrorists gets in and impose their Sharia law….they will be killed by them. ISLAM condemns their lifestyle and they stone them to death or burn them. Their LGBT lifestyle is EVIL to ISLAM.

      • bcmarshall

        Why wait? Why not just let fools like you impose your version of Biblical law on everyone else?

        You don’t see it, but there is no difference.

        Islam condemns their lifestyle? And “Christians” like you accept it?

        Their LGBT lifestyle is evil to Islam? And to you it’s what?

        Tell me you wouldn’t stone someone to death and praise God while you’re doing it if you could get away with it!

        • Marie Saqueton

          You twist my words or just do not understand what I stated. I was just citing what they do to them in that part of the world. I for one do not condemn anyone for their chosen lifestyle as God gave us all the gift of ‘FREE WILL”. We answer to God at the end whether our chosen lifestyle is pleasing to Him or not. I have lots of LGBT friends and clients and they seem happy, so I am happy for them, as long as they do not impose their lifestyle on me, we are okay.

  • A Vet Who Cares

    Colorado conservatives need to change this crap. Show up to vote these creeps out and retake our state!!!

  • PRINCE4EVER O(->

    Simple solution: Stop selling wedding cakes completely to anyone!

    • Stoney

      I guess you missed where this is 40% of their sales. Pretty big hit for being principled.

  • Leftists who lable Pres. Trump and those who also possess like values to be nazis. Had these numbskull studentsw actually studied history instead of allowing themselves to be indoctrinated by those criminal leftist instructors who instead of teaching the “ABC’s” perpetrate of their misguided agenda upon impressionable minds. Nazis, their gestapo, the brown-shirts of that era in Germany shouted down, spoke over, physically brutalized and destroyed property of those of another mind set. Then they shipped them off to the incinerators of the likes of Auschwitz. None of these actions describe the actions of President Trump or those of a like mind. Who do we find on the air waves shouting down, physically brutalizing, ruining the properties of others today on our city streets and universities across our land? I propose to you that it is those of the left, not the law abiding citizens who cherish our Constitution & freedom loving society. It’s not conservative college professors who push away honest media on the streets when asked why these libs are violating our 1rst amendment rights. It isn’t conservatives in hoodies in dark evening hours that are violently rioting in the streets. The “KEY” is that each of us has the right to “PEACEABLE ASSEMBLE,” NOT the mayhem actions of the far left.

  • Joseph Story

    Its a sorry time when hmosexuals have more rights than I do and they wonder why normal people have KOW TOW to a homosexual or lose a business . what happened to the saying I don’t want to do business with you,but now you have a goverment agency telling you have to or else
    .

    • Marie Saqueton

      Because our government under BO has been infiltrated with Communist rules….everything under the control of government. How do you like that leftist Americans?

      • bcmarshall

        You are a fool. Explain what a “Communist rule” is.

  • anoesis

    What amazes me is why the homos don’t open their own bakeries. And even more, why doesn’t the government FORCE them to serve themselves like they’re forcing Christians to bend the knee to ‘them’. The government doesn’t force muslimes who have bakeries to make wedding cakes for homos. Jesse Waters, Man on the Street has PROVEN that. Who am I trying to kid? The homos and the government couldn’t be in TOTAL control of a whole segment of the society who KNOWS who their TRUE LORD and MASTER is and won’t back up from them. They are just unaware of what the same LORD has said is going to happen to them, if they don’t change their wicked ways, in the end.

    • bcmarshall

      Does it really “amaze” you? Are you that thick?

      I’ll spell it out for you. A black baker may have a mostly black clientele, but it doesn’t mean he can refuse to serve whites. The same when races are reversed. People in public service and public accommodations just can not decide which people constitute the public and which don’t count as the public.

      They can set rules if they want to. No shirt, no service, for example, but that doesn’t target any one group. It’s wholly different from taking aim at an entire race, gender, national origin, or sexual identity and issuing a blanket no-serve policy against them simply because you don’t like them, and then hypocritically using a Christ who never said a bad word about gays as your excuse for your own loathsome bias.

      • Marie Saqueton

        They should be able to say: We do not make that product and we do not have the theme you want. Go someplace else.

        • bcmarshall

          Ahh, they should be able to lie to maintain their homophobia! Good Christian values there!

          And landlords should be able to lie to blacks and say their apartment is already rented, and hotels should be able to tell Muslims or Jews or Catholics or anyone else that they’re sold out to avoid allowing them to stay, right?

  • gardeauxandrew

    See how the lame-stream medias incite things like riots and civil unrest that cause innocent lives lost and property damage just by the mere reporting crap like this! The medias yahoo included are responsible for the death threats just by the mere reporting things like race and gay bait articles! Protest letters daily to all medias and their sponsors!

  • John

    The bakers 1st amendment rights are being violated. You would think that the courts would take note of the Little sisters of the poor Supreme Court case that ruled that their 1st amendment right overruled Obama care. Seems the same principles apply.
    If all else fails. Move to a reed on loving,non pot wasted state or stop selling wedding cakes and start selling MAGA cakes online.i know I’d order at least one for every special event .

    • Marie Saqueton

      Some of our courts are now infiltrated by the Communists of USA, 12 of them, the most in the world.

      • bcmarshall

        Really?

        Name them, and your proof.

  • Apollo1011 .

    Filthy degenerate faggots.

    • bcmarshall

      No. Filthy, degenerate homophobes.

  • E.r. Scofield

    Those oh so tolerant gays. They will kill you if you won’t let them cram their degenerate lifestyle down your throat, or, up your……….nevermind.

  • Flyby

    So The Centennial State can be added to the other states that have passed communist laws that force businesses to cater to people who go against their religious views. Thanks to the liberals, America has turned into a politically correct mess. Russia and China would be proud of you Colorado.

  • paul

    Separation of church and state people. Yet another example of liberals trampling the constitution because of poser in chief Obama empowering them. Thank God hes gone. TRUMP will fix this in time.

  • boccagalupe

    This I simply do not understand. Is this guy a good baker? Does he make a living for he and his family? If so, why in the world is he still in Colorado? There are many other states that do not have dumb laws restricting how a person makes their living. Most of them RED States.

    • bcmarshall

      When you serve the public, you serve the public. If he doesn’t like that, get out of public service. He can be a carpenter like Jesus and pick and choose who he wants to work for and nobody will say a word.

      • Marie Saqueton

        He is not a public servant or in public service. He is an independent businessman and can refuse who he wants to serve in his establishment. Anyway, that used to be the law in this land when it was a Republic governed by LAW, before the Democractic MOB took over. The rule of law is no longer practiced here. it is now MOB law and demand.

        • bcmarshall

          He is not a “public servant”. He owns a business that is open to the public. And the public means everyone.

          How can you be so thick? The lunch counter owners in the South owned public businesses and they used what they portrayed as their religious beliefs to try to justify their own personal prejudices and not serve blacks.

          How is this different?

    • Marie Saqueton

      The gays and lesbian network will follow them.

  • j. Tirado

    No one should be forced to go against their morals or beliefs. Atheist bakers shouldn’t be forced to make baptism cakes if they choose not to and Christians shouldn’t be forced to bake homosexual wedding cakes if they choose not to.

    • bcmarshall

      Except, of course, that homophobia is nowhere part of Christ’s teachings, so what you’re really doing is hiding your own bias behind the name of a religion you don’t even follow.

      Show me where Jesus ever said anything about gays.

  • annefarrelly

    I would like to see the mob take their cake orders to a Muslim bakery!

    • Marie Saqueton

      And maybe order some bacon cake from a Muslim Bakery?

  • Sueja

    If someone wanted a cake showing a black person being hung by a rope from a tree and the bakery refused would the state bring them to court. Same thing…don’t like the message.So, if the state gets their way the black swinging from a tree has to be allowed, too with no protest.

    • bcmarshall

      Typical conservative. You just can’t see the difference between hate and love, can you?

      I feel sorry for you.

  • Elfego

    If you are a Christian you are an infidel and Muslims are instructed to lie to infidels,infiltrate and kill them. Read the Koran!

  • Dtrain63

    Democrats want to have a choice for themselves, but selfishly they don’t want you or I to have a choice! I’m sick and tired of having the Homosexual’s perverted agenda forced on Christian Men, Woman and children day in and day out!!

  • Marie Saqueton

    FREEDOM OF RELIGION IS UNDER ATTACK, NOW MORE THAN EVER FROM OBAMA’S SHADOW ARMY. All Christians must support this couple. In the olden days, any merchant can refuse service to any customer, but now the DEMONIC MOB has changed everything to favor evil doers. This is a call for all Christians in the area to show their support to this coupld and let the politicians know that we won’t be silent anymore. Evil is taking over our country and haas infiltrated even to our high courts. The wrath of God will be upon us if we do not rally behind good people.

    • bcmarshall

      The real evil doers are those as filled with hate as you are, and who hide behind a Christ that never said a word about gays.

      You should be ashamed of yourself, but that’s asking too much I’m sure.

      • Marie Saqueton

        I do not hate anyone, I hate the evil ACTIONS done by anyone. I separate the DEED from the DOER. We have to alert the good people to support the good or else all evil doers of the world will just dictate to us. Understand, that we do not hate the PERSONA, we Christians hate the EVIL DEED. You generalize hate by clamping together the doer and the deed, which is wrong. and did not understand my point in my post. So, here is a detailed concept of it.

        • bcmarshall

          Why is it evil to love someone? What is truly evil is to say something like that and not even realize how sick even thinking, let alone saying it really is.

          You don’t seem to understand that it’s NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS who someone else loves, any more than it’s anyone else’s business who you love. You can’t decide for them, and they can’t decide for you.

          You talk a good game, but you don’t separate anything. You are judgmental and hate-filled. You have no ability to see anyone who acts or thinks differently from you as a unique human being, just as worthy, and in many cases likely far more worthy than you are.

          So tell me, Marie. You like to come off to the world as a representative of Christ. What did he ever say against gay people?

          Oh yeah, and while you’re at it, what did he say about loving others?

          You’re a pathetic hypocrite who hides your own hatreds and prejudices behind a Christ whose teachings you don’t even begin to follow.

          • Marie Saqueton

            There you go again distorting my post. I said, I hate their ACTIONS not the person, because I always separate the DEED from the DOER. The DEED or ACTOIN can be changed but not the DOER, because we are not God who can recreate the person. Can You? The LEFTISTS always distorts anything and everything just to create discourse…..typical…

          • bcmarshall

            I didn’t distort anything. You said you hate the “evil actions”. .What is evil about loving someone?

            And you try to use Christ to justify your homophobia but you don’t answer the very direct question. I challenge you to tell us all. What did he ever say about gays?

            And what did he say about love?

            I know you’re going to dodge the question because Jesus never said a word about gays, but he was all about loving others. In order for you to pursue your hatred and intolerance you are NOT being Christian. You are actually rejecting the teachings of the Christ you profess to love and follow.

            Matthew 25:40 The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

            41 Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

            Better get your asbestos underwear, sweetie, ‘cuz if you really believe this you’re headed for the Lake of Fire!

          • Marie Saqueton

            Do you even understand English? Actions is not the persona, it is the evil the person did, like killing or raping someone. The action is bad but the persona can be rehabilitated. You are really a self absorbed person who never take anything positive from anyone except yourself, that in itself is bad…your attitude and actions, but you might be a good person deep inside, but only projecting a negative attitude by constantly demonizing anyone who disagrees with you. Our natural instinct is to over compensate the reason behind our most failing attitude, but demonizing the opponent never works….it boomerangs on you. I am done with you, go fly a kite.

          • bcmarshall

            I understand English very well. YOU are the one who used the term “evil actions” as related to this discussion. Again I repeat. What is evil about loving someone? It is beyond my comprehension to understand how you can equate killing and raping with loving. Are you just looking for any straw to grasp at, or do you honestly believe there’s no difference?

            Of course you won’t respond, because you can’t. What did Jesus ever say about gays?

            You know the answer as well as I do. And since he said nothing at all, then how can you hide your own prejudice and bigotry behind him?

            You’re headed for that Lake of Fire because you are the one rejecting the very teachings you profess to follow.

            Oh, I didn’t demonize you. I asked you direct questions and you ducked and bobbed and weaved better than Muhammad Ali.

          • Marie Saqueton

            I see it now, you lobe killers and rapists too. God condemns any evil act but you love them so be it. Done with evil people too.

  • The comments below are very interesting, not one ” middle of the road” commenter.
    Well , me either. There is more than one cake shop I. The gay couples town, I’ll wager, and more than one florist in the previous suit , too! I feel both those couples , very spitefully chose to persecute those small business owners for financial profit, using their homosexual as the excuse. They were not discriminated against, their actions were. In fact, they were discriminating against the business owners because they are NOT. Homosexual. I don’t understand why all the minority groups , be it racial, religious, gender or anything else, feel as though they are ” owed” something!? People are what they are and as far as I can see, everyone has something to offer. Not one person in this country is ENTITLED to special treatment. Let people do their jobs. Especially the President. Trump would not have run if he didn’t LOVE this country. Obama ran for the prestige. He didn’t even help ” his people” as he promised. Trump has already made a difference in the stock market, already caught 73 terrorist affiliates, already kept and reintroduced 12 manufacturers in the USA, he is doing what he promised.
    So come on and give the man a chance and STOP DISCRIMINATING AGAINST HIS DAUGHTERS!

    • bcmarshall

      And how did they know ahead of time that the owners were bigots? Do you figure they just went through the yellow pages and visited every shop until they found someone who refused them and then they shouted “Aha!” and decided to sue?

      Or is it more reasonable to assume that they saw a bakery and decided to go in to order what they wanted and found hatred and intolerance on the other side of the counter?

  • cvxxx

    I can’t sympathize with a person who knew the rules of the game when He started. If one does not like the rules then one finds another occupation(game). There are over 300 different Christian sects in the US alone. Those sects do not have the same exact customs or guidelines or rules. Just last week a coach was fired because of a years old picture of him holding a bottle of some alcoholic drink.
    A far better cause would be to rescue Christians caught in the cross fire in the multisided Middle eastern mess. The money wasted on failure to follow the rules against thousands who are in dire need shows that there is work to do.

    • bcmarshall

      I’m curious. Just who do you want to send to rescue Christians? The military? A military that consists of every religion and atheists, too, sent on a specific mission just to rescue Christians? Muslims..go die. Jews? The same. But you Christians, come with us and we’ll save you? And do you figure Trump is gonna let them in? Remember, he’s swearing up and down it’s not a Muslim ban but instead a ban on everyone from certain countries, but he’s gonna send the Army and Marines off on a strictly Christian-saving mission?

      And I assume that you want non-religious US citizens to pay for this, right? Or is it only those who identify as Christian who will foot the bill?

      Doesn’t that even sound just a little weird to you?

      • cvxxx

        Those Christians themselves by fighting back. Sell them guns and Ammo. Russia can produce AK’s And ammo as well as the rest at cheap prices. If they won’t fight too bad.

        • bcmarshall

          Thanks for answering.

          I don’t agree that arming populations is a good answer (that’s where al Qaeda came from), but it’s better than sending the military.