3 Dead, 35 Injured During Violent Protests in Charlottesville Virginia

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(Zero Hedge) Update 10: City Manager Maurice Jones confirms that 3 people are dead (1 from the car attack and 2 police in a helicopter crash) and 35 more were injured following a disastrous day in Charlottesville. Furthermore, Charlottesville Police Chief Al Thomas confirmed the driver is being charged with criminal homicide.

3 Dead, 35 Injured During Violent Protests in Charlottesville Virginia 1

A car plows into a crowd in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Aug. 12, 2017 (Ryan M. Kelly, dailyprogress.com)

Update 9: In a press conference following today’s attacks in Charlottesville, which killed one young woman, and a helicopter crash that killed two offiers, Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe had some choice words for far-right demonstrators who converged on the town: “Go home…and never come back.”

“You came here today to hurt people and you did hurt people. But my message is clear: We are stronger than you. You have made our commonwealth stronger you will not succeed. There is no place for you here there is no place for you in America. Go home…and never come back.”

The driver’s identity and any information about his possible motive for the attack have yet to be released.

Update 8: In the latest development in what was already a bizarre, tragic day, a police helicopter crashed into a wooded area near a gold course in Charlottesville…

Update 7: The organizer of today’s rally that drew hundreds of white nationalists and various extremists to Charlottesville said he disavows the violence that eroded it. According to AP, Jason Kessler said in an interview Saturday evening that whoever drove a car into a group of counter-protesters “did the wrong thing.” He said he was saddened that people were hurt. Kessler is a local blogger and activist who described the event as a pro-white rally. He planned it to protest the city’s decision to remove a Confederate monument. He also criticized law enforcement’s response to the event, which was dispersed before speakers could take the stage. He said they did a poor job controlling the chaos to allow free speech…

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  • Alex Povolotsky

    The reason for the unrest has been provoked by the leftists-there is no need to rewrite history of USA

    • Kenn Talbot

      It is very hard to think the only issue of the Civil War (War Of Aggression Against The South) was slavery. The Confederate Battle Flag was in use the entire war. Lincoln did not free the slaves until the end, 1863. The war was fought for many reasons. The flag was a symbol of the Confederacy and had nothing much to do with Black & White or slavery.

      • Alex Povolotsky

        Of course, but I do not consider the cause of the civil war, but the cause of the unrest

        • Kenn Talbot

          I agree with you. I was referring to all the rhetoric about Confederate Monuments and such as being anti-black and racist. That is the supposed cause of the unrest and is nonsense to anyone who will take the time to study the history that is no longer taught in school. There is a Civil War Museum in Harrisburg PA. The first things you see when you walk in are huge pictures of Harriet Tubman and Frederick Douglas. These were great people and great Americans. They were a part of, but not the central figures in the Civil War. My guess is that a museum of the Civil War should welcome you with pictures of Grant & Lee or Lincoln & Davis.

      • Royce Beasley

        Sir your thoughts on subject matter is spot on. A person can not and I mean can not change history right are wrong we stand. As a child growing up I often had your thoughts. God Bless The USA.

        • Kenn Talbot

          It is amazing how much people try to change history. People who attended a Catholic school have a very favorable opinion of the Crusades. A movement that burned books and lost all the knowledge of medicine and astronomy that took centuries to collect was lost. The Egyptians knew enough to bury and sometimes even embalm bodies, but centuries later plagues were spread by throwing the bodies in rivers and in ditches. Like you said, right or wrong things happened and we need to learn about them and learn from our mistakes, not keep repeating them.

    • wandamurline

      The Civil War happened….you cannot erase that, and taking down statutes of Civil War generals because it offends you is likened to ISIS who is destroying history by destroying ancient statutes and wall writings in the middle east because it offends them. Where is the difference? Am really sick of offended people and politically correct rhetoric … you are going to get offended at some point in your life….get over it. And remember that the Civil War started because the northern states (gubment) put an excessive tax on southern cotton, and that is when the southern states wanted to opt out of the union….slavery was put in some 2 years of so later as a reason for the north to continue the fight. After the war, Lincoln considered returning the slaves to Africa, but he was assassinated before that happened.

      • Royce Beasley

        Very well stated,”” congrats”” I could not have stated it any better.

      • Man on the street

        The civil war like all wars has narratives (lies) about the historical facts. The fifty states came together as sovereign entities welling to get married into the USA. Like any marriage, sh’t happens, and one partner decides to leave that UNHAPPY union. The fact that the North wanted to beat the South to force them to stay in such unhappy marriage is a CRIME. Therefore, revise that lopsided history, and start calling Lincoln a war criminal, and the southern generals heroes.

  • Estell Newton

    I’m not in favor of these white supremists groups but if it had been liberals, it would have been freedom of speech. And what were the conterprotesters doing there? Part of the blame should be on them.

    • Jackalyn Morrison

      AMEN

      • Kenn Talbot

        Absolutely. All I heard yesterday were calls for arrests. I agree, but who did they want to see arrested? It looked like it was Trump they thought should be arrested. What took place was wrong and people should be arrested when they break the law (pay attention Hillary etc.) but as Estell said, not when it is the so-called free speech of liberals and BLM. Where were the calls for arrests in Baltimore and Ferguson?

    • Richard

      The counter-protesters were there to provoke which is exactly what they did. And, needless to say, they knew that they’d get cover for doing so from the corrupt leftist MSMedia. See how it works, BLM can burn, destroy and cry out “Death to police” and hardly an eyebrow is raised within the press. ANTIFA, ditto!

      • Estell Newton

        They need to crack down on the liberals and make them behave.  They should not have been there.  And I still say if the confederate monuments have to come down t hen so should the yankees.  I’m not from the South.  I’m from Michigan originally so no one can holler that I’m biased.  If one comes down, then the rest should.

        • donl

          That is what the LEFT is trying to do, ERASE our History, look at New Orleans and the statues they have removed. Our Heritage is disappearing.

          • IluvmyUSA

            What I’m about to say may not make much sense to some, but by destroying these monuments they are rewriting and deleting very important parts of our history and culture. What I think this does is help Islam and those immigrating to this country so that there will be no American culture because they will have erased it. Notice the labels on certain products or when you call a company you’ll be prompted to choose which language you want to speak in. What I think that means is we are losing our culture and our place in our own country as we have to make adjustments and accommodations for the new America. What’s more, many Americans see nothing wrong with it as they clamor for more foreign inclusion not realizing the noose they’re placing around the country’s neck.

          • Estell Newton

            And the sad thing about it is there are few that care.

          • Fed up!

            Was planing a trip to Orleans, wanted to show my wife the heritage,but canceling it, why bother now. There other southern towns that still have their heritage and proud to show it off.

          • reaaltalk

            Your heritage is one of enslavement of human beings and using them for free labor and committing treason against our nation to have the right to continue to do so…shame on your vile ancestors! May all of them continue to roll around in their GRAVES in Torment for the sins that they committed and passed on their wicked
            DNA onto your kinfolk.

          • Derek

            What about the African slaves ancestors that sold their people into slavery? Should we shame them for their heritage also? Or maybe just let that slide?

          • dee money

            the first slave owner in America was a black man. look it up,

          • Derek

            Oh I know it was.

          • Derek

            Oh and how about the muslims that till this day practice slavery? Should we shame their heritage? And I almost forgot the cartels that practice human trafficking till this day we should probably shame their heritage also correct?

          • jaybird

            You need to do more research!

          • Fed up!

            WTH are you blabbing about?

          • Allen Evans

            What about the YANKEES using indentured servants well into the 20th century, it’s the same thing as slavery!

          • Ed

            But, they’re in a battle for the division! As Long as they beat Boston!

          • Sandy129

            Slavery has existed since the beginning of time and it is still happening in Africa and other countries. Blacks aren’t the only ones that suffered from it. Jews, white folk, Asians, Chinese and many others and its still happening but NOT in America. We fought a civil war, all races fought, to stop it. Get a grip of reality and appreciate what you have now and the blood that was shed to give us the freedoms we have her in America.

        • Brent

          No monuments should come down. They’re part of our history. Good, bad, ugly, all of it serves as a reminder of who we were, where we’ve been, and provide contrast for comparison of who we are now. To remove them is to remove all of that, and make it easier for us to fed bull-garbage revisionist history, and make us more prone to repeat the mistakes of the past.

          • Estell Newton

            That’s right.  None of them should come down.  But it needs to be equal.  If they are going to take down one set of monuments then the others should also come down.  I wish they would get some brains and stop trying to erase history.  It gets passed down anyway.  They can’t erase it totally.  There will always be some one who knows what happened.

          • Brent

            They’re playing the numbers game. It doesn’t matter to them if somebody knows the truth. What matters is that they can convince many that reality is something else. It’s really a sick business that the left and globalists are into.

            But you’re absolutely right, they can’t erase it. It will come back, and much of their efforts will be undone. It’s just a matter of when, and at what cost.

          • jaybird

            If people do not pay attention to what ideology they are being fed, by the the likes of George Soros and other Globalist paying the Liberal groups to disrupt the US and telling us what to do, controlling our lives we will become their slaves. Too many people are not paying attention to what the agenda is of the leaders of these groups before joining in.

            Remember, the DNC paying homeless to disrupt the Trump rallies to get crooked Hillary elected!

          • Brent

            I remember it and a whole lot more. It’s amazing how few people see what is right in front of them.

          • Derek

            I ask myself how that is possible 10 times a day?

          • jaybird

            Yeah, JFK was assassinated by our government just like they want to do to Trump because he knows that they do not want the people to have a say in running our government. They are funding groups to disrupt America so they can take over. The UN wants New World Order, where they get to tell everyone how to live while they line their pockets with our money.

            The Left/Liberals need to wake up and start reading/watching more than the MSM news.

          • Allen Evans

            jaybird, having the Leftist Liberals start reading/watching more than the Leftist MSM is far beyond what their little brains can comprehend. They’d explode first.

          • jaybird

            I just do not understand them. They march against the wall and do not know that having all the immigrant’s & refugee’s coming here will change the dynamics of our country from what it is now to where they came from – violence!

          • Allen Evans

            Have you ever noticed how they stay close to the “mother ship” (liberal university/college) once they’ve graduated? A friend of mine noticed this several years ago in Indiana. We surmised that it was so they could be directed to perform their everyday tasks without having the difficulty of thinking. I guess that’s why they throw temper tantrums when someone expresses a thought or idea counter to their narrow mindset. Hey, that sounds just like the Mayor of Charlottesville!!!

          • jaybird

            I just glanced at a headline (have not read it yet) that the police were ordered to stand down when the violence started at the protest.

          • Allen Evans

            From what a friend of mine (a retired LEO) in Charlottesville has told me about the IDIOT Mayor, I’m not at all surprised. He WANTED violence! He even invited the ANITFA group to counter the Conservatives who were defending the statute. I guess the Neo-Nazi’s and the KKK groups decided that it just was too good of an opportunity to miss.

          • Sandy129

            That’s the problem. Way too many people are not interested in history of any kind. The kids now can opt out of history classes in high school. That makes it easier for the liberal professors in colleges to teach them what they want them to know about history. To make the next generation easier to control they rob them of theirs sense of family, their faith and history to prepare young minds to accept what they teach.

          • jaybird

            I am a great grandma and did not know that they could opt out of History class, do they teach civics anymore? Way too many people are not interested in the underworld of our government either.

          • Allen Evans

            Many schools don’t even begin to teach civics or social studies these days. I guess that’s part of the Liberal “Brainwashing” Agenda.

          • Sandy129

            As far as I know, civics is not taught either. I was angry when my daughter told me she had opted out! She did without my knowledge or permission.

          • jaybird

            I have a pre kindergarten and 1 kindergarten GG child starting in Sept. I won’t be around to see how they turn out.

            Maybe you can get her to take an on line class! I saw one advertised on TV for home schooling,

          • Sandy129

            I wish she would but she won’t even look at the American Minute mailings from Bill Federer. Neither will my son. I have tried to share them in an email with no response. I have forgotten more than I thought and I love the mailings. They are not long and focus on what happened on each day during our Founding and historical people etc. They are very interesting. She home schools her kids and I am glad for that. They have public school on line now so kids can learn without all the attitudes of today. That is what I would do now but my 4 are grown with families of their own so I don’t meddle. They have their ways that don’t agree with mine so its best I keep out of it. Subtle things like sharing a history event is about all I can get away with.

          • jaybird

            I have a daughter/son-in-law that have no children (thank goodness) and not interested in what is happening-vote Republican. Travel a lot and very social. I have stopped telling them how bad it is.

            My son-3 grandchildren-2 GG children- he listens & grandson listens and read what I send them.

            I have never heard of the American Minute by Bill Federer, sounds interesting. I live in VA and there are historical homes all within 100 miles from me. Very interesting history of our town.

          • Sandy129

            Here is one of mine that I copied and pasted for you. He has videos we can view too from his radio program. I love them!
            Napoleon Changed Europe & World

            Napoleon was born AUGUST 15, 1769.

            After his education, he was commissioned in the French military in 1785, and quickly advanced.

            When the French Revolution began, he was an artillery officer.

            Napoleon’s
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            “envelopment” resulted in him being considered one of the greatest
            military commanders of all time.

            After
            the French Revolution began, a slave revolt erupted on the French
            controlled island of Haiti (Saint-Domingue), one of the world’s main
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            The loss of the colony created a need for
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            This led to French General Napoleon Bonaparte invading Egypt in 1798.

            Napoleon easily defeated the Egyptian Mamluk slave cavalry in just a few weeks.

            He
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            there were no words in the Arabic language to convey such concepts, as
            the people had been ruled by the sword for centuries.

            Napoleon uncovered the Pyramid treasures, the Rosetta Stone and conquered into Palestine.

            Napoleon attempted to capture Acre in the Holy Land.

            The French newspaper, Le Moniteur Universel, published in “year seven” of the French Republic, May 22, 1799:

            “Bonaparte has published a proclamation in which he invites all the
            Jews of Asia and Africa to gather under his flag in order to
            re-establish the ancient Jerusalem. He has already given arms to a
            great number, and their battalions threaten Aleppo.”

            After losing the Battle of the Nile to Britain, Napoleon
            abandoned Egypt and Palestine and returned to France, where he arranged
            a coup to become First Consul of the Republic, then Emperor.

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            Napoleon
            conquered across Europe, including the countries of Italy, Austria,
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            by ten – ten being considered the number of man, with ten fingers and
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            Napoleon also emancipated Jews.

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            they had the freedom to live where they liked. Some, though, considered
            this as diminishing the strong community-center Jewish identity.

            In 1816, Napoleon commented to physician Barry O’Meara regarding emancipating the Jews:

            “I
            wanted to make them … like other men … by putting them upon an
            equality, with Catholics, Protestants, and others … I had restored
            them to all their privileges … They were not permitted to practice
            usury … but to treat us as if we were of the tribe of Judah.

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            I should have drawn great wealth to France as the Jews are very
            numerous, and would have flocked to a country where they enjoyed such
            superior privities. Moreover, I wanted to establish an universal liberty
            of conscience.”

            The Napoleonic Code has been criticized as “statutory law” enacted by decree, where a person accused of a crime was de facto presumed guilty until proven innocent, whereas in English common law, courts assume the accused person was innocent until proven guilty.

            In 1803, Napoleon,
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            would spread to the French Louisiana Territory, sold a million square
            miles to the United States during the administration of Thomas
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            Napoleon combined the French and Spanish navies and attempted to invade England, but was defeated at the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805.

            Napoleon hired Muslim Mamluk cavalry to invade Spain in the draining Pennisular War which began in 1807.

            Napoleon, who had been excommunicated by the Pope, put his brother Joseph on the throne of Spain in 1808.

            This resulted in the Catholic leaders in New Spain, most notably Simon Bolivar, to declare independence.

            This led to the creation of the Latin and South American countries of Venezuela, Colombia (which included Panama), Ecuador, Peru and Bolivia, northern Peru, western Guyana, northwest Brazil, and in 1810, Mexico.

            Napoleon invaded Russia in June of 1812 with 400,000 men, six months later he retreated with only 40,000.

            The loss of French troops and his defeat at Leipzig led to Napoleon’s abdication and exile on the Island of Elba in 1813.

            After a year, he escaped and again took control of France for another 100 days, but lost the Battle of Waterloo, June 18, 1815.

            Nathan Rothschild helped fund the Duke of Wellington’s British armies against Napoleon in Spain and France.

            A legend persists that Nathan Rothschild obtained early information of the British victory over Napoleon at the Battle of Waterloo, June 18, 1815.

            He
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            investors to suspect he had inside information that the British lost the
            battle, resulting in panic-selling off of stocks.

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            when news arrived the next day that the British had actually won the Battle of Waterloo, the stock market enthusiastically exploded, resulting in Rothschild making a million pounds sterling.

            During the 17 years of Napoleonic Wars, an estimated 6 million Europeans died.

            In October 1815, Napoleon was banished to the South Atlantic Island of Saint Helena, where he died in 1821 at the age of 52.

            Reflecting on his life, Napoleon dictated his “Mémoires” to General de Montholon, Baron Gourgaud and General Bertrand.

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            His conversations were recorded by Emmanuel de Las Cases in Memorial de Sainte Hélène (published 1823).

            Napoleon
            had complained to Montholon of not having a chaplain, resulting in
            Pope Pius VII petitioning England to allow Abbé Vignali to be sent.

            Napoleon read out loud the Old Testament, the Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles.

            Affirming his belief in God, Napoleon told Montholon:

            “I know men; and I tell you that Jesus Christ is not a man …


            Superficial minds see a resemblance between Christ and the founders
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            exist.

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            His religion is a revelation from an intelligence which certainly is not that of man …”

            Napoleon continued telling Montholon:

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            We find in it a marked individuality, which originated a train of words and actions unknown before …”

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            “Jesus is not a philosopher, for His proofs are miracles, and from the first His disciples adored Him.

            Alexander,
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            foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force!

            But Jesus Christ founded His upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him.”

            Napoleon had stated:

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          • jaybird

            Thanks, I will also log into his program!

          • Sandy129

            You are welcome. I am sure you will enjoy them. Mr.Federer is an amazing man and very knowledgeable of history. He makes learning interesting. .

          • satcatchet

            Yep, like who assassinated JFK and why we don’t have gold and silver in our pockets any longer, who funded Hitlars’ war machine, etc.

          • Lonestarbybirth

            This is not about our history , this is about these liberal idiots trying to politically correct our history so that it fits there f$&@” up warped view of what they think it should have been !

          • Brent

            Close.
            Their warped view isn’t quite what they think it should have been. Their warped view is actually to break the links between what really was and our identity, to allow them to insert something they want. What really was, is a strong and constructive story that strengthens our national identity and outlines a path forward for a successful society.

            Their goal is to weaken that story, twist it into something we should supposedly be ashamed of, and use that fake narative of history to steer us into a very foolish path.

          • Flyby

            Correct ammundo guy. They want to turn history into their BS views.

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          • What there really doing is starting a war and then their going to blame the right when the left are the ones starting the war . Just watch and see Lock N Load brothers !

          • ekim

            You are definitely onto something there ! Hip, Hip !

          • Charles Wolfe jr

            Exactly. The Confederate Monuments honor both black & white. There were more black volunteers in The Confederate Army than there was in The Union Army,fact.

        • Walter Flatt

          MUSLIM CAMPS IN AMERICA. BELOW IS A PARTIAL LIST. THERE ARE MANY MORE. YOU SHOULD GOOGLE FEMA CAMPS ALSO ARE THEY FULL OF MUSLIMS ALSO? WHY DONT THE NEWS MEDIA TELL EVERYONE? HAS OBAMA, HILLIARY, KERRY AND HOLDER SET US UP AT A TRY TO INVADE US?

          Some of their most active camps are: GOOGLE, MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD TERROST CAMPS.

          – Trout Creek Pass, Colorado (over 100 acres)
          – Red House Virginia (over 120 Acres)
          – Mecca Circle, Wayne County, GA
          – Islamber, NY (considered their headquarters)
          – Holy Islamville, SC (another huge compound and extremely active)
          – Baladullah, CA (Huge and also extremely active)
          – A new one PA (Wayne County)
          – Fairfax, VA
          – York, SC
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          – Springfield, MA
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          – Hyattsville, MD
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          • Estell Newton

            There’s one near me in Missouri too.  Not to far.  there is also ISIS and Russians.

          • jaybird

            I thought Red House is in West Virginia?

        • Black Opal

          Blaming the victim is a disgraceful, but familiar, conservative tactic. Got to close ranks, don’t you? You call yourselves moral, but you’re just scum.

      • Flyby

        Right on. And the car that killed the lib was most likely trying to get the he** out of having his windows/windshield broken and had no choice.

        • jaybird

          He backed up and then sped forward ramming the crowd.

          • Flyby

            That’s the way the story goes at the moment. Would have liked to be a fly on the wall. My computer’s F’ed up. I’ve got to start in in BIOS, and use my fixmestick every time I use it. Luckily I’ve got a friend who teaches computer at a school and is going to check it out for me. Possibly this gut was trying to get away from the blm crew?

          • jaybird

            Flyby, I am laughing at your poor computer! Mine will come up sometimes with a message that I have a virus and to not turn it off because I will loose information and someone could steal account info. I have to totally shut it down. They will call me and offer to fix it. I have told them I don’t have money to fix it, they want password to take control and then steal my passwords.

            The driver of the car was a Nazi sympathizer.

        • Donna Crumpler

          Hummm… trying to reinact the scene as shown: ram my car into a crowd of pedestrians: then back up and go forward again??????

      • Mikial

        Unfortunately, the idiot driving that car did exactly what they wanted him to do, which will cast a shadow on Conservatives throughout the country.

        • jaybird

          He was not a Conservative, he was a Nazi sympathizer!

          • Flyby

            The whole story isn’t out yet grandma. The driver looked as though he was bottlenecked in that street. I’d love to see a conservatives tape of the whole incident. I’m a Christian and not in favor of killing anyone. But doesn’t the film look like both sides were tipped off to the other sides coming seeing as they both looked like they were ready for this? I’ve seen blm attack conservatives previously, but I liked seeing them get some hits in on the soros arranged fight.

          • jaybird

            Something was going on because the police were told to stand down when the violence started. Not your grandma!

      • Anna K

        You are exactly right on!

      • Donna Crumpler

        Yeah? Tell that to Heather Heyer’s mother.

        • Richard

          Well, as terrible as her death is, and the guy who killed her is a murderer, she was part of that group which provoked violence with the supremacists. Violence on both sides is wrong, not just the side you despise.

          • jaybird

            People should have known from the start that it was not going to be peaceful and decided if they want to be involved, other groups were told to stay away by the City Council!

          • Donna Crumpler

            Though what you say, Richard, is true, hatred and violence is in one’s heart. Can’t help but feel the man went there with full intentions of doing harm, one way or another. Hatred and violence is not acceptable in a sane society on any side. This was beyond belief.

          • Miyako

            Hate Is Learned You Dumb..Excuse For A Ignorant American…………………Broad’!

      • bill thompson

        Left wing Counter protesters…synonymous w fascists. Funny they call themselves antifascists but its them who are the only pure fascists in the USA . intolerant violent incapable of reason.

    • Meg

      Agreed. Had they not shown up, none of this would have happened. Antifa and BLM should also be named as domestic terrorist groups. They have been causing riots and civil unrest for a long time.

      • Donna Crumpler

        White supremacy (KKK) has been going on longer than any other protest group. Seems they started the fire in modern times.

        • The Redhawk

          When did you realize that you are STUPID??? In case you didn’t … yEP YOU ARE!!!!

          • Donna Crumpler

            But not so much as YOU.

        • Derek

          Hmm Donna you seem to have forgot that the (KKK) was fought tooth and nail till it was eradicated. Not by blacks only but far more whites than the Klan could EVER rally up. But in the days of blm anifta and muslim brotherhood no one stands up to these people for their racism and bigotry. In fact they more or less applaud it? Imagine what America would look like today if they had done this back in those days. Then maybe in your blinded mind you can get a slight vision of what the future will look like if you and your kind don’t open your eyes!

          • Donna Crumpler

            Hmmm… my kind? If only you could open your eyes to see that I abhor hatred and violence. Don’t be so quick to judge. Although I do agree with all but your last remark, as I was there as a youngster.

          • Derek

            By kind I meant liberal lol see I knew you would go there.

          • Donna Crumpler

            See no interest in continuing this as I see you already have a mind set about it. Opinions are like a**h***s. Everyone has one. So good day to you Dereck and peace be with you. It was fun while it lasted.

          • Derek

            Can’t say I’m surprised most liberal thinkers will jump ship when anything they say can be countered or reasonably argued. Have a great day 🙂

          • Donna Crumpler

            P.S.
            Read my above comment to you. When you start to cast blame on one trying to have a conversion with you it gets tiring. Unless you can be civil in your words, I see no reason to continue. Only a conversation. Don’t let it get the best of you. Not quitting, just not interested in the rhetoric.

          • marielaina

            No, Donna knows it’s a waste of time to open your eyes.

          • MIA OGLETREE

            Jajajaja

          • Derek

            As it’s a waste of time for you to open your mouth. Nothing you say make any sense!

          • Donna Crumpler

            Save your words for your favorite hate group Derek, you know, the WS.

          • Derek

            I wasn’t talking to you! I thought our discussion had ended? If she wants to put her nose where it don’t belong then let her deal with the consequences. Now do like you said before and move along.

          • Donna Crumpler

            Is my business, my home state, my love for it and right to speak.
            If you don’t like it then don’t read it but don’t critize others who agree. You have become sad.

          • Derek

            Like I said go back and read it! She said absolutely nothing. She’s just a cheer leader for you nothing more nothing less. And she directed an insult at me not the other way around correct? Well I consider that an act of what you call hate and will respond just like you do! I also can’t stand hate. But it’s seems you don’t mind it so much when it’s in your favor is that what’s going on?

          • Donna Crumpler

            What’s going on: I try to find some value in others opinions, but when it comes down to not respecting another’s then I speak up.
            You were the first to put me down with your words in our conversations, so what did you expect,? All political views aside, I find you to be the instigator.

          • Derek

            My apologies I wasn’t trying to disrespect you.

          • Donna Crumpler

            Thank you Derek. I see that you are a good man.

          • Derek

            You’re welcome and you’re a good woman 🙂

        • marielaina

          trump and his hate have added fuel to their fire. They are more brazen and bold. Shame on them for their hate. And you people are just like trump, can’t see the forest for the trees, missing the point completely. Obama didn’t divide our country with racism, that is your excuse, because you will never get over having a black president. white supremacy is BS. No one race is better than another. Educate yourselves, people!

          • Donna Crumpler

            Agreed.

          • Derek

            Sounds to me like you should try to practice what you preach. How has President Trump divided our country? Please execute intelligence when answering if you even answer? Yes President Trump don’t blame whitey for every problem on the planet like obama did. Your hero was VERY quick to jump on television and blame everything on white racism and silly people like yourself but right into it. Your a fine one to tell people to educate themselves!

          • marielaina

            Right back at you, racist punk!

          • Derek

            Lol I ask you a question that you can’t answer and that makes me a racist punk? It sure is easy to be a racist now a days! Now you should go educate yourself. And come back when your on a 3rd grade level and maybe we can talk then.

          • WBuck

            Now here is a perfect example of true hate and ignorance. A democrat Trump hater kills a beautiful young lady, Gravely injures a dozen and she is blaming it on anyone but herself and her ignorance and points her lie at Pres. Trump.

          • satcatchet

            Trump had NOTHING to do with that riot. Obama started this mess and the states can’t make up their minds who’s side they want to be on. Where is the National Guard?

            You Trump haters really need to read some history and reasent history at that.
            Stop blaming and start reading. Who real is at the helm of your ship, do you really want to go into that cyclone? Wake up and choose the good and peaceful way of life and ditch ugly side of life.

          • Donna Crumpler

            Whatttt? A democratic Trump hater kills? you are the most unbelievable person on this conversation.

          • marielaina

            Those ignorant white racists shouldn’t have been there in the first place…stay in the woods and let us peace loving people alone. trump should have invited them to the golf course.

        • jaybird

          They had been pretty quite in VA until the BLM movement and now the statues!

        • satcatchet

          The Democrates are the ones who started the KKK to suppress the blacks in the southern states, don’t be fool about who is instagating those riots. Learn the history so you can have the ammunition to shut the leftist liberals down in their own tracks.

        • satcatchet

          Not really. Remember the Boston Tea Party? Should I proceed?

      • The Redhawk

        Bulls eye… Now if only the Alphabet Networks talking Presstitutes had Studied the last 8 Years of DIVIDE and Racism policies by Obama….Well

        We are at the Cause and Effect Stages of the REVOLT that O policies have Caused!!!

      • Jose Cisneros

        They are obama democrats terrorist

        • MIA OGLETREE

          You are probably right, but nothing justified the violence’s.

          • Jose Cisneros

            That is true nothing justifies their violence. They have a right to peaceful demonstration, but why are those initiating violence not being arrested. Why are they allowed to break the law

          • MIA OGLETREE

            Because they are Obama’s people, living out of the government, have nothing better to do than disturb the peace of others. I agree with you in you first comment.

      • satcatchet

        Antifa is on the terrorist list.

      • brenda smith

        I don’t understand why none of the News Stations are mentioning BLM being involved in this. Even Fox News my favorite haven’t watched it all day.

      • Allen Evans

        As I understand it, Antifa was invited BY THE MAYOR!

    • Donna Crumpler

      When you bring hate you get hate unfortunately.

      • The Redhawk

        Tell that to Obama, Holder, Ferrakahn and the BLM LEFT WING RACISTS

        • Donna Crumpler

          Sorry, I detect hate in your Speach. NOT interested.

          • The Redhawk

            You certainly are a SORRY MORON….NEVER LET TRUTH CONFUSE YOUR TWO LEFT LIVE BRAIN CELLS…NOW STFU and GO away!

          • Donna Crumpler

            Yep, I was right all along. This is a discussion which obviously you don’t know how to have an intelligent one. So take “your” hate and your drama and go away.

          • carla AMERICAN

            The left should have been arrested as soon as they got off the bus and was known to have weapons. They are’nt releasing the name of the driver because he’s leftist of course. Blm was there ? Why ?Blm dressed in full foreign military gear and loaded weapons threatening police. The American people and American Military are sick of this. They KILL police, beat up innocent people for voting for Trump and he defends them when they went there with intentions of destruction and bodily harm ? The governor, mayor and police are responsible for not protecting American Citizens PERIOD !Another obama and I won’t defend him ever again, let the democraps have him.

          • satcatchet

            And where is Barny Fife? I mean the National Guard?

        • satcatchet

          And Geo. Soros can be thrown into that camp too. He financed BLM.

      • Derek

        So are you saying President Trump brings hate because he don’t jump on the hate whitey train? That don’t really make any sense?

        • Donna Crumpler

          You said that not me.

      • jaybird

        There was hate here before Trump. I noticed it in Obama’s 2nd term!

        • Donna Crumpler

          Unfortunately there has always been some kind of hate in America. Goes all the way back to The 1600’s when
          we crucified (killed off) many of the Native American Indians. Might have been a fight over the land but the hate for anything other than white was there afterwards. Sad how people can live with hate inside for others different than them.

          • Miyako

            Its True. Hate In America. the white Man Learned It After the 1965 Johnson…..Act. When He started Paying attention To how The Stupid Liberals started Destroying America. Pandering For Votes,Putting All the Minorities on the Dole’$ allowing Unfettered Illegal Immigration to America and Taking in ‘Flotsam’ of third World Countries and asking the WORKING Man To Pay for their Stupid Ignorant mistakes…..You Fantasy thinker’! Hillary the Witch..was Sent to Never Never Land….And MIDDLE America Woke up And ‘spat’ on the Ignorant Progressive Liberal In The Voting Booth. Mare America Great Again…..Donald’! PLEASE”!

    • JHW

      The white supremacists have a right to protect themselves. If the liberals would have left them alone there would not have been a problem. There will be a lot more violence unless the BLM group and groups like them get put in their place.

      • Estell Newton

        Everyone has a right to protect themselves.  The liberals think they are the only ones with rights.  I wonder how they will react when they realize California is really a communist state.

        • satcatchet

          Exactly.

    • jaybird

      They were asked to stay away and not rise to the bait, by the people of Charlottesville.

    • tCotUS

      Absolutely Estell, I too am not in favor of what these nazi/kkk groups stand for. BUT…This is America..The KKK was peaceful until the RADICAL LIBERALS showed up…The Liberals have shown us they do not believe in tbe First Amendment or the Constitution/Bill of Rights.

    • Flyby

      I agree with the Klan being there, but you know what? They’re dead on right about their votes putting Trump in office. It twernt black votes that put him in office and he dam* well knows it.

      • jaybird

        The White Conservative and Black Conservative put Trump in office.

    • Anna K

      Yes, how come the liberal BLM and Antifa can get away with mayhem and murder?! The left will have a heyday running this story into the ground to make the right look like racists, etc. Which we all know we are NOT!

      • Estell Newton

        I’m waiting for it all to backfire on them.  And it will.  They seem to forget that some of the West coast states are full of private militia.  We all know who they are and they won’t take this much longer.

    • mike

      YOU CAN ONLY BE BLAMED IF YOU ARE A WHITE MALE 🙁

    • Mark

      I AM in agreement of the White Race being Supreme, but I will never act upon it nor verbally announce it to anyone. Strictly a personal opinion that I have the right to have

    • Flyby

      And a BIG part on the charlottesville police department for not protecting the people who had the permit to demonstrate. They allowed the whole situation to occur.

      • Estell Newton

        I agree.  It was a set up.

  • Maggie Jones

    Evil intentions are always just that. There does not have to be a beginning when there is evil. Evil is always waiting for a place to show it’s self. People that are easily bent toward evil will use any reason to come forward. People who do these things are not truly wanting to help our country move forward; they are for destruction no matter what the cost. The reason our country has been great is that the reasonable people pull toward in a time of trouble. We have conquered every situation as a strong country because we want our freedom to stay intact and if we remain that strong together, nothing that these evil minded people can do, will keep us from the freedom we have earned.

    • altonrobinson

      What you are saying follow the good ways of the liberal left and all will be good. Allow the left to demonstrate, rally, march and what ever and you call it their right of free speech. But when some other group wants to march for their views they are evil and should be arrested and kept quite.
      If one stupid group has the right to destroy and harm people then the other has the right to march for what ever reason.

      • JHW

        Even the white supremacist group also have a right to beat the [email protected]@it out of them if they start the fight.. If BLM would have stayed away the would not have been a problem.

    • Gregg Parker

      I assume you are talking about the disruptive anti=protest marchers who showed up to beat down the rally, right?

    • JHW

      Its to late. This country will never be the same as long as the press supports the BLM movement and hate groups like it. The people will only take for so long before they push back.

  • JVaVFW

    Leave our Confederate monuments alone. Otherwise all acknowledgement of Negroes should also be removed including the word (African). The are AMERICANS.

  • tax man

    If the police had just done their job of allowing the original rally, kept the uninvited protestors away (or separated the parties like they do for BLM rallies), then this would not have happened. But they let the protestors come and start the violence and never allowed the permitted rally to take place. Clearly the fault of the police and city administration. So all this falls on the Government of the state and the city! To begin with, it was their fault for trying to change history and take down legitimate historical monuments to make the “progressives” feel better. Well, they got what they wanted, to make a big political splash so they could blame it all on racists and by reference Trump. Sad day for all.

    • Alex Povolotsky

      100% agreed

    • Gregg Parker

      Spot on. I gaurantee the Mayor’s office got their marching orders and the police just followed orders.

  • Charles

    Both group and not just one are Terrorist organization but Medias refused to mention BLACK LIES MATTER are the real culpuit

  • Fred_K

    The best way to handle a situation like this is to keep it out of the news. The more attention you give it the bigger it grows. The government and mass media are the reason for things like this happening. They foster, and aggravate division between people for the purpose of politics, and news, then this is what happens. The cops did not do their job of keeping these groups apart, and may have been instructed to allow them to contact each other for the purpose of violence. Then the media plays it to get the most air time.

    • Alex Povolotsky

      The main thing – the media prefers to cover on the one hand and this violates the objectivity of filing news

  • RealAmerican407

    There will be no discussion at all about the violent Antifa and BLM thugs that showed up to agitate and pick a fight. Just look at the videos.

    • slk5

      lock them up with the wht ext and let them at each other!!!

    • Alex Povolotsky

      Can U send me link,please?

      • RealAmerican407

        Wasn’t hard to type it into Google…
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9AOMXuJSd4

        • Alex Povolotsky

          Thank U, for Your replay, but 404

          • RealAmerican407

            Works perfectly for me. Just look it up or go to Breitbart they have a bunch of videos of people being attacked.

    • Man on the street

      The right and the left are programmed and conditioned to reject racism from the White against the blacks, and ignore the open racism from the “empowered” blacks against white. The concept of WHITE PRIVELIGED is racism clear and simple that is supported by the libturds in academia and the presstitude.

    • Linda

      They want white genocide even misguided white professors are pushing this. They must think they will someway be excused.

  • A_Nobody

    Execute the driver as an example to the rest of the psychotic trash.

  • slk5

    just curious, why did he step on the brakes just before!!!

    • Derek

      That was the exact moment he noticed there was another car parked in the crowd and it dawned on him oh no I might actually hurt myself too. So he slowed down just a bit.

      • slk5

        to bad dawn didn’t come earlier!!!

  • disqus_rEWjgfyzIp

    Whos to say that it wasnt a soros funded clown doing this so the right could be blamed? Whos to say the crowd wasnt a soros funded group like BLM? Then you have both sides of the fence that dont want american history erased. Its all about the blame game at this point with the elections coming up next year.

    • Derek

      It’s funny you say that. I’m really curious to who the driver was but I can’t find any pictures of him thus far? Knowing the msm if it was a so called white racist his face would be plastered world wide by now. Im leaning on it being a liberal idiot that ran his car into the wrong crowd.

      • patricia_redman

        I heard it was a member of Antifa.

        • Derek

          And I bet you are correct but by the time that news come out this entire story will be swept under the rug.

          • patricia_redman

            That’s what I think, too. All part of their evil plan! 😡

          • Lil Miss Patriot

            Yeah, like everything concerning the left is swept under the rug.

  • Timothy Draheim

    Are only the Violent Liberals allowed to stage a protest in today’s America???? I don’t condone anyone in these confrontations, but there has to be line drawn. Stifling the freedoms of one group to please the other group is not good.

  • jcb

    Pro white is wrong! Shouldn’ t have been allowed. I’m white.

    • Gregg Parker

      Pro anything but pro American is wrong. Do you agree or are you just an apologist?

    • Derek

      Yes pro white is wrong! But may I ask you why pro black is celebrated?

    • Ladypyro

      I am a white heterosexual female. That doesn’t automatically make me a racist. it’s not my fault that I was born this way. That doesn’t give other persuasions the right to demean me, to judge me on my skin color is just as bad if I judged others on their skin color. So stop using race as an identifier to determine if a person is worthy.
      You are as much of a racist if you’re anti or you are pro. Your using race in your personal identity, just as much as I am. What just being human.

  • Gregg Parker

    To let the heritage of a group of any people be systematically removed for the sake of the heritage of another group is wrong on its face. There should have never been a need for any whites to assemble to protest the removal of a statue… it’s just a statue for heaven’s sake! Let it be! We have had the lunatics running the asylum so long we have to resort to rallies to say it’s wrong to remove the symbols of their Southern Heritage. Who the he!! cares?! No black person is being subjected to slavery because of a statue. A huge number have been made economic slaves by the democrat money machine which destroys skills and motivation for the trade off of a hand out! No one is tearing down this monument to stupidity! The deaths and injuries lay squarely on the Emo congressman and judges who permit this continual irritation of once peaceful southerners. Don’t think we don’t know you want us all at each others throats for you to “help”… Peace will still rule the day. Each time you do this we get stronger and more united outside of the camera lense!

  • GymS

    Figures that idiot mcauliffe would blame peaceful protestors instead of looney left racist/hater obamanites. Mcaulife was once being considered as a running mate for Hilarhag. He must and will be unseated, the blood is on the hands of the communist demorrhoids because nobody has any rights but them?

  • MILES E DRAKE

    Nothing happened in Charlottesville that did not routinely happen at Trump rallies during the 2016 campaign, or that has taken place in Portland or Seattle or some other leftist stronghold almost every day since the inauguration. No violence or mayhem took place that Moore or Handler or O’Donnell or Judd have not gleefully called for at march after demonstration after riot, and but for the accidental presence of police the death toll in the attempted mass murder of Republicans by democrat zealot and Bernie Bro Hodgkinson would have been far greater. This was almost certainly a set-up by the Antifa and Black Lives Matter agents provocateurs who attacked the demonstrators under the command of communist Cornell West, a trick that marxist insurrectionaries have repeatedly used since the triumph of Lenin a century ago that they are now trying to replicate here. It is curious that Clinton fixer and bagman McAuliffe was again on the scene instantaneously, first to hijack the congressional asssassination as a pretext for gun confiscation and now to declare a “state of emergency” and blame the violence on President Trump. It’s almost as if this was planned at Netroots. The Obammunist coalition of satanists, socialists and sodomites must be under no illusions: if they continue their increasingly bloody revolution against the results of the 2016 election, there will be Charlottesvilles from coast to coast.

  • Maxine Albritton

    It sounds to me like the rally was going fine until the driver of the car killed the woman. Having seen the left come in and play havoc before I would not be surprised if that is not what happened in this case. Usually conservatives don’t turn ugly like this. Why would one drive down one of his own people so I would assume the driver that caused the problems was a democrat.trying to intervene.

  • Dead Toad

    Once again all I hear is liberal crying no response from the actual White protesters was reported. I’m to understand they were attacked by the counter-protesters this was not reported by anyone. How are they to be blamed for a crashed police helicopter. Obviously the helicopter was in disrepair or the officers were unqualified to operate it. Yet the liberal governor blamed the white protesters for the crash instead of the police department who crashed it. The Liberals crash their own helicopter and attacked a license protest and did what liberals always do blamed someone else for the outcome of violence and death.

    • marielaina

      Wow, how did you come up with that story.

  • Bob Cherry

    David Dukie was right he and orange ball Trump are locked at the hip.The right wing pales were the outsiders and the aggressors. The helicopter would have not been request, if on of the Nazi/KKK were not running over people with the vehicles.

    • Edouard d’Orange

      Up voting yourself, how weak. Does anyone know who was doing what at this point?

      • Bob Cherry

        How could I up vote twice? Jealousy get you no where.

    • Derek

      Lmfao are you really that stupid or do you work for the msm?

    • Derek

      No the whites most likely lived there it George Soros that busses people in to invoke violence and we all know he funds blm not the Klan

    • Gregg Parker

      You are the problem. Brainwashed socialist with no depth of understanding of America whatsoever. Your throw the baby out with the bathwater mentality would have America disarmed because criminals use guns and no children born because abortion is legal. Cherry is a perfect last name for you,,, maybe Bob is pretty accurate as well…

  • Peter Smith

    The occurance of Charlottesville should be condemned by ALL, period. The idiot in the car should be tried and executed for murder, plain and simple. That being said, I’ve watched hours of videos from Charlottesville. Gotta say, I saw violence perpetrated by BOTH sides of the “protest”. But all I here from every media outlet is “neo-Nazi” this, “white supremacist” that, “alt-right” whatever. Where is the moral outrage of the actions by “Antifa”, “Black lives matter”, and the openly communist left, not only at this event but for the previous 8 months or so? I agree with the statements of others, had this been a protest by the left, it would have been 1st Amenment rights. But since the protest was from the right, it is “white nationalism”, “racist”, “bigoted”.
    Has anyone ever thought that as long as this type of profiling continues, it will only escalate? Our President rightfully noted that all sides are culpable and complicit in the numerous acts of violence, and he is attacked. I support MY President, perhaps the left should listen to what President Trump said before they open that ugly, nasty gash below their noses.
    President Trump said exactly what he should have said, we are ALL Americans FIRST. If that concept disagrees with anyone, get the H-E-double hockey sticks out of this country. You will not be missed.

    • JHW

      The Republicans never miss a opportunity to criticize Trump.

      • Peter Smith

        Not all GOP members criticize, just the RINOs. They just fall line behind the progressive, liberal, communistic garbage residing in the NE and the Pacific Coast.
        They still haven’t gotten the memo. They lost, get used to it!

        • JHW

          Peter you are right but the rest of them should be coming out in support of Trump but they do not. I will no longer give the Republican party any money. Most of the republicans do not have a back bone. There are a few good ones but not many. They will pay a price in 2018 if they do not start supporting trump. I for one will not vote for Flake if we can’t beat him in the primary election. Will set home like I did with McCain. I will no longer vote for the R before a name.

          Reply

          • Peter Smith

            I still cannot believe the good people of Arizona re-elected McCain, much less ever giving Flake get a single vote. Neither is a Conservative Republican, heck, they barely qualify as RINOs.
            I support my Texas Senators, Cruz and Cornyn

    • rrrickkk

      The car driver was in fear for his life so he did the only thing he could do- get the h-ll out of there as fast as he could.

      • Peter Smith

        I’ll wait for more information on the driver to pass judgement. I’m sure he was terrified when he realized just how badly he’d F’ed Up. But the video appeared to show intentional actions, but like I said, I’ll wait for more info.

  • Zvezdelin Tzonev

    The TRUTH is that White lives matter too! Preserve the life! Obama is guilty for all this mess!

  • Christian_Prophet

    The US Declaration of Independence says that “all men(person) are created equal.” So why are there Americans displaying Nazi flags in a demonstration? These white nationalists need to be told that they are violating the very foundations of America’s republic. D. Trump needs to condemn these white nationalists, Nazi sympathizers as evil and terrorists. D. Trump is a coward.

    • James Ruddy

      You want Trump to be small minded like you, he condemned anyone being violent, but you only want to single out and condemn only white people…YOU and those like you Are the problem.

    • Derek

      Stop making it sound like some Klan rally please! It was not Nazi’s they was protesting the removal of a historical statue nothing more. And once again may I ask you why it is wrong to be pro white? But totally okay to be pro black pro Brown pro muslim pro gay or anything else please answer that?

    • Gregg Parker

      First off the Declaration of Independence has zero force of law. The Constitution protects free speech just as much as it protects your right to assemble and also to not to be beat down for expressing yourself… right or wrong. BLM, NRA, La Raza, gays, women, muslims,and yes even the KKK are permitted to exercise free speech in the public square. If you don’t like what they have to say stay home or exercise your right to do the same. If you want one side elevated over another and see the opponent’s speech curtailed you live in the wrong country. I didn’t see any posts from you when ANTI-Fa goof balls were carrying black flags and beating people down on campuses and in the streets… but that would be your free speech rights at work… just like my post to you. You are not required to change your view to conform to mine any more than the converse…

    • Kenn Talbot

      Anything can be bent to show a point other that what was intended. Case in point: you quote “all men (person) are created equal”. In fact then that would include Nazis, and afford them equality under our Constitution. There is no way the framers of the Constitution would have ever envisioned fanatic hate groups such as the KKK, Nazis, Radical Muslims or BLM. If they had there might have been a caveat to the created equal thing.

    • marielaina

      AMEN! let them hold their “meetings, rallies” in secret, in the woods, under the protection of night, like they used to, because they knew they were wrong. Then the only casualty would be maybe a groundhog or a raccoon or two.

  • James Ruddy

    I notice the governor only wants the white people to go away and even leave America, but says nothing about the out of state leftist democrat/BLM people, they are welcome to come, go, and/or stay as they please, cause as much violence and mayhem as they desire. All the hatred and violence emanated from the left, but you can only push people so far before they start pushing back and giving you a taste of your own medicine.

    • Derek

      James my friend you NAILED IT! I would give that statement 100 up votes if I could!

    • JHW

      There will be more to come if the BLM keeps pushing. Lot of the people are getting tired of the one sided hate. If you were not a racist its hard not to be after Obama got done dividing the country.

      Reply

  • Donna Crumpler

    Hmmmm… so I see that free hate Speach is okay but not the same for the protesters. Hypocritical. White supremists hate anything other than their own; no place in society for their hatred, free Speach or not.

    • Gregg Parker

      What planet are you on that you can find this the moral to the story? It was the “hate speech” from the permitted march that was stifled. The “hate speech” from the anti-rally protesters was not only allowed to continue, illegally organized by the way, but was allowed to come into combative proximity with the permitted march! Are you not seeing this as a set up??

  • disqus_tKlEuAw2uq

    When you have a anti white mayor and a racist mayor what do you expect this idiot out of office

    • Donna Crumpler

      Sorry, but you obviously don’t live in Virginia, my home state most of my life. Mayor Signer is NOT anti white nor a racist. The white supremists came locked and loaded. The protestors where of all races and religions, not just BLM. In fact I saw fewer of them then anyone else. When you come to a city ready for a fight and cause residents to stay locked up in their homes in fear, this is terrorism. Let them do it at the WH where they are welcomed.

      • Gregg Parker

        here you go again… some people miss the point even when you drive into their forehead.

  • Peter J

    If the liberal left counter protesters had not shown up with the intent of disrupting the march, the violence would not have happened. Makes me wonder what will happen the next time the liberal hold one of their protests of who knows what?

    • Donna Crumpler

      Not shown up? Freedom of Speach on all sides. Guess you picked your side.

      • Gregg Parker

        Speech is not intimidating or physical. It can be done at any time and from anywhere. When you put your hands to a bottle of water and throw it at people you elevate yourself past speech. Had they showed up with signs and protested they would simply be more Americans. When they turn to violence they become democrats.

        • Donna Crumpler

          Obliviously you only saw the pictures of your liking.

          • Gregg Parker

            I read the articles and watched the videos and saw the interviews. You are aware that had the free speech opponents not shown up there would be no confrontation at all, right? I have no horse in this stall. I merely pointed out the difference between free speech and violence. You have an obvious prejudice you bring to the table that colors your lens…

          • Donna Crumpler

            No rose colored lens here for me, only see red when such hatred is displayed on either side.

          • Gregg Parker

            Rose colored was not the color of the lens I would have suggested. That presupposes that all is well and you only see the good in things. I would think, based on what you have posted to date, that you rarely see good in anything. I would have suggested limousine tint. Very dark and eliminated any light from penetrating it’s facade. The “hatred you witnessed from one side at least was channeled towards loosing a statue dedicated to those from whom they descended. Now just because some race baiters who ran out of other things to complain about to raise money turned their attention to removing flags and statues doesn’t make it a racial issue. Denying them what was once an honor to their dead is a disservice and over the top as to what constitutes “race”. It was about culture and about history…

          • Wheel-man

            Not only that but removing those statues (and even that flag) is historical revisionism. Are we now living in a communist country where history is constantly rewritten to conform to their ideas of what is correct? I am sorely afraid that yes we are!

      • Peter J

        Like so many liberals, you excel in taking words and text out of context or conveniently eliminating a portion of a sentence or phrase that does not fit your rhetoric. Try reading and quoting the entire sentence: “If the liberal left counter protesters had not shown up with the intent of disrupting the march, the violence would not have happened.” You conveniently omitted “… with the intent of disrupting the march…” to suit your pathetic needs. Grow up.

        • Donna Crumpler

          You categorize people with your own predigest thinking.

          • Peter J

            No, in your case I have read your posts and categorized based on your own words and your convenient omission of a portion of my sentence you quoted. What you did is a typical liberal tactic.

  • Polly Dreitzler

    This guy that started the rally in Charlottesville is a nut case just like all the leftists that have been rioting over the Trump election. These people have forgotten that if you erase and forget history, you will be doomed to repeat it. General Lee is a part of history and so it the confederate flag. They may be distasteful to some but they history and best not forgotten lest we go back to a country divided by race again. Those who have tried to erase the memory of Hitler and WWII are going to find out that history will repeat itself and is playing out by the leftists in this country. It’s not safe to try to alter the history of the world. We are supposed to learn from out mistakes, not forget them.

    • Donna Crumpler

      Duke is not a leftist. Full out republican and Trump backer. Said he was doing what Trump wanted to MAGA

      • Polly Dreitzler

        I didn’t say Duke was a leftist, just that he is no better than they are with his thinking that removing a statue will change attitudes. Those need to change in a person’s heart. I doubt that he was doing Trump’s bidding by trying to have the statue taken down. I will say, though, that his demonstration was peaceful until some yahoo came in with a car and tried to wipe everyone out.

      • Gregg Parker

        People are permitted to identify with any one they wish. That doesn’t make a reciprocal acceptance. POTUS trying to break the death grip of 16 years of globalism from folding up the corners of the house that is America is a noble one. If Charlie Mason had said publicly that he supported President Obama would that be an indictment on his presidency? Would his murderous tenancies transfer to him and suggest he supported Manson? In a land of smoke and mirrors believe very little of what you see. Group think has been and will continue to be the tactic of division.

    • Miyako

      Please Don’t forget”? The Left And Joseph Stalin. He is a Hero to the LEFT In America. (Che Guevara,Nelson Mandela,Ho Che Min,Pol Pot,Bela Kun, All Communists Etc) The Communist Left is Alive and Well In Oakland California. They Demonstrate with RED Flags’! But..Never a word from America’s ‘free Press’? They Ignore The RED FLAG….And Make You See a NAZI In Anything Conservative”? Try Being a Little Observant Here. The Communist Hated Hitler…..They (The Germans And Hitler) wanted To Eradicate The Left and Communism. This Comment Does Not mean I Support The Nazi Party. But Understand Why the Anti-Demonstrators Were There in Virginia. They see The opposition And fear Their Demise If They Grow.

  • Man on the street

    When black life matter thugs were demonstrating in Furgenson Missouri or Baltimore using anti-white slogans, did white people organized to attack them? even the police allowed them to burn down shops without restraining them or calling them racists. White people are people too. After colleges dissing whites as white priveliged virus, it is only appropriate to see that SOME white thugs wanted to assert their race. The statue of the confederate general thing was the latest of many action by the libturd media to disregard the White culture and history. If a bunch of white guys purchased ABC network and decided to expose that MLK was a communist and pressured white people to demand dismantle his statues, I can imagine black people will feel insulted as one of their hero is being disrespected. Unfortunately the media and culture is too afraid in confronting the race issue FAIRLY.

    • Donna Crumpler

      White supremists made it violent when they murdered a pedestrian.

      • Ladypyro

        Donna, we don’t know if the driver was on the left or right yet. Please with hold judgement until facts are in. The murderous driver could have been BLM. HOWEVER it doesn’t matter which side he was on, he committed murder.

        • Miyako

          The ‘Left’ In America..sees a Boogey man..NAZI In Anything Resembling ‘Conservative Thought’. Neurotic Is a Very Clear And Accurate understanding Of their ‘sic’ minds. They also are Marxist loving..but you NEVER hear a word of their Political values by their ‘Sister’ supporting American Bolshevik Media. NBC CBS ABC MSNBC CNN NY TIMES WASHINGTON POST BOSTON Globe. PLEASE”! Marxism Is Alive and Well In America’s Mass media…

          • Ladypyro

            You are correct and because of that everywhere person is automatically labeled racist and a Nazi. Most of the left have been taught the sanitized version of WWll and haven’t a clue as to how it started and what being a Nazi really was. They’re very ignorant.

      • Miyako

        Who Was The ‘Black Racist’ Who Killed Police Officers In Dallas Texas”? The Black who Killed a Deputy in Texas’? Why No Mention From America’s ‘Bolshevik’ Media’? Why are The ‘BLM Group’ Not Asked If They are Communist or In Support Of..Anti-White People’? Again. ….The Bolshevik Media Hates Any Conservative thought.
        This Goes with the Communist Play book. Tie Everything to The Nazi Party Or Conservative thought. Divide and Conquer. Radical Left People Can Talk At Any College…But…..No Conservative Thought By Prominent Authors Are Allowed’! This Is The same in ‘Socialist Canada’! The Media In America Is Against ANY Conservative Or Christian. Donald J Trump is Their Main Example Of Conservative Thought And Must Be made a Fool Of in America…..The Enemy To Your Thought And Conservative Values And Respect to The Bible…Is In the ‘Bolshevik Media of America’! Be wary of Any…..Spoon-Fed Crap they May Ask you to Swallow’!

      • Man on the street

        They did not. They wanted the statue of Gen. Lee to stay. Soros smuggled in Kessler and a few actors with Nazi signs. The libturds were bused by the hundreds with bag ful of turds and urine. All that sh’t happened hours befor the idiot drove his car into the crowd killing a white girl.

  • Tennman39

    We are a nation of Americans, not white, not black, not brown. The MSN had to take this opportunity to fan the fires of discontent. They described the white supremists groups as such but failed to condem the blacks as BLM members. I believe that either of these groups are set to create mayhem and destruction. Neither group should be given a pass.

  • The Redhawk

    It is really APPALLING that after 8 Years of Obama “appeasemerts” to Ferrakahn anti WHITE Rethoric, BLM ” pigs in a blanket” anti Law and Order Violence promoting while getting invited to the WH.. that equally Deranged Right wing NUTS are as FED UP with the Rcial and Hate divide that Obama promoted BUT CBS… BSNBC>> CNN and the Pro anti America klans IGNORE the ROOT Cause of what happened in VA!
    Do right wing NUTS have NOT the same RIGHTS to FREE SPEECH as BLM and the LEFT WING NUT ANARCHISTS have?????? apparently the Alphabets MSM Presstitutes make it ” TRUMP’S FAULT”

    • Miyako

      Well Said” ! The Marxist Media (Bolsheviks) In America Loves…The Left. and Abhors The Conservative .. They Are So Mad..They Lost The 2016 Presidential Presidency….They are Frothing Out The Mouth……GET OVER IT”! You Leftist Progressives..Lost”! Go To CUBA….To Demonstrate..Take Bernie Sanders With You….Marxist lovers.

      • The Redhawk

        If wanting a FREE Country… UNDER ONE FLAG… with SECIURE borders for ALL Amaruicans of ALL Skin Colors under our Constitution and a good Economy and education with a VA that works for ALL who served makes Me an HOMPHOBE , Rcaist, and Crazy as the (D) Anarchists label anyone like me … then BRING THEM ON they are Racists and Color blind DIVIDED under the LIES of Obama, Sharp pimp Ton and Soros….HYPOCRITES of the (D) Anarchy party .. and they can take De Blasio, Cuomo and Warren along with Crazy Uncle bernie with them!!! OoH RAHH!

        • Miyako

          You Left Out…..By Mistake…Lindsey Graham,Susan Collins,Mikulski,John (Let’s Go To War With Anyone McCain)

          • The Redhawk

            And Maxi Waters, kamala, Harris, Jeff Flake, glad you brought up MILDRED GRAHAM..I add UPCHUCK SCHUMER,, Leaky Leahy ….I just hope that all EXTREMES FROM THE LEFT and RIGHT heard the SAGE WORDS BY President Trump : We are All Americans .. there is no Skin Color….we all have One Country and one flag….and there is no room for RACISM…. FROM EITHER EXTREME GROUPS.under OUR CONSTITUTION!!!!!!…So the BLM and the KKK should be TREATED Legally with the same LEGAL Efforts .by the DOJ and the FBI…….JUSTICE has to be Equally Enforced on all those who BREAK the LAW!!!!.

          • Miyako

            Yes…….I Could Not Have said It More Clearly then what you just stated here. But….Sorry To bring this Up…? But You Left Out..’LA RAZA’..And ‘MALDEF’. And ‘AIPAC’. CPUSA. Lest i Mention…the Southern Poverty Law Center””?

          • The Redhawk

            Yes these SUBVERSIVE GROUPS seem to have FLOuRISHED under Obama Lack of a WORKING DOJ /FBI for the last 8 Years….Hopefully from now on they’ll get the same Treatment as any other SUBVERSIVE.. RACIALLY MOTIVATED Association of THUGS! and Killers!

  • Pattie

    A riot of any kind is never acceptable..was there any looting and destruction of businesses? was the town set on fire? were any bridges obstructed? were tons of vehicles set on fire and over turned? will the protesters occupy the area for months and months?

    • Donna Crumpler

      No, only one murder, that speaks volumes above the rest.

      • marielaina

        It wouldn’t surprise me if this whole mess was set up by the present administration’s “agenda”. The mission? …to divide the people of our country any way imaginable. Southerners want their statues as a piece of history, put them in a museum and if you’re offended, don’t go there. Did you notice the very aloof, nonchalant way trump commented on the situation? He likes it. Too busy golfing to even try to sound like he cares.

        • Donna Crumpler

          Got your drift in full Marielaina!

        • Naval Lint

          “The PRESENT administration”????? REALLY????????? Have you COMPLETELY forgetten the PREVIOUS administration????

          • Miyako

            Don’t waste your time On ‘spoon-fed’ ‘Going-with-the-Crowd..Feel Good …Hillary Thinkers.. they are Dreamers. Reality Escapes The Left.

          • Naval Lint

            Yup…I know, but I still like to point out the fallacies and LIES of the Left…it ALWAYS results in the standard responses….you know, “racist!”, homophobe”, “Islamophobe”, “misogynist”, etc….same old, same old.

        • Miyako

          What a Fantasy life you See”? (Progressive-liberal Ideology) Me Thinks”? You Cannot think For yourself And rely On the ‘Spoon-fed’ Leftist-Liberal Media for Your Dirt. Wow…..! The dumbing Down Of America Is seen Clearly In The Fools who Believe America’s ‘Bolshevik Trained Media’.

      • Miyako

        Yeah..If You Are a Communist. and Anti-Free Speech Person. (Ex.Black Lives Matter=kill Cops”?) Dallas Texas. Please”! ‘The Bolshevik Left Media’ Ignores Black On white Crime (Rapes,7-11 Stickups,Knockout game,Etc) and Sensationalizes White Crime On Blacks. Or Defends The Destruction of Public Property. When The ‘Commie Left’ Attacks Conservative thought in America’s Colleges Across America’? (Ex. Berkley) How Many Media People…Are Secret Marxist Lovers””’? Or..Anti-Conservative Blow-Hart’s’? I think The Majority.

  • boydconklin

    White+Nationalist=White Nationalist

    Does not=KKK, Nazi, Fascist, Racist, Misogynist…Islamophobisit (rational fear of Islam is not irrational for anyone and including Islamists).

    Just a note to the Cuckservatives, SJW’s, Anti-fa, and/or snowflakes…

    What, the only identity group you can’t have is a white one? Whites better start forming identity groups, in this world of identity politics you have created.

    Nothing wrong with the history of the United States in the South (Confederate flag, Civil War General/other memorials), some believe the Civil War was mainly due to unbearable taxes the North strangled the South with. In your quest to rewrite our history with identity politics George Washington and Thomas Jefferson are next, let’s rumble. It may be all about slavery to you, so what, your perception of hate speech is not illegal yet, in this country anyways. Move to Canada, Britain, France, Germany… if you can’t take it. Want to see some problematical Black Nationalists in action, go to South Africa, no matter how horrific, the Whites will never pay enough for the “sins” of their fathers(/mothers) you say. Well it’s not like there ever was any sense of fair play, so current events are not surprising, so nice that you have the media and great swaths of the politicians putting out and supporting the propaganda drivel.

  • Joseph111

    Freedom of speech is guaranteed to all, regardless of the message – we do not have to agree with a message, but we have to protect the right to voice the message –
    .
    Americans used to be tough, and could tolerate anything up to (and in some cases, including) Violence – now, freedom of speech is being challenged by those who just don’t want to hear the message – if you did not want to hear the message, stay home …
    .
    summary – legal permit to protest removal of statue – event peaceful – now arrives all those who want to silence the message – result? violence and death

    .

    • Miyako

      Very Well Said’!

  • rrrickkk

    Why is it that gays and blacks can have protests without violence but not whites?

    • Naval Lint

      Because “whites” are better behaved…the evidence supports this hypothesis.

  • jack schmidt

    put them all in jail ! do you know who started the ku luk klan ? way back and by the Democratic party ! check the movie , I believe , is called Hillary. made by same person that did the movie about Obama

  • Miyako

    The Counter-Protest in Oakland California to the March to protect the Robert E Lee statue in Va….(From Being Removed By The Anti-White City Counsel Of That Local) They were Carrying A RED FLAG…..This Is The Symbol Of the ‘Communist Party”. Have YOU Noticed”’? That Their Is No Mention Of this In America’s ‘Bolshevik Media’? The Media In America Is Biased Extreme Left And Ignores The Seething Anger ‘They’ created In The White Working Class In America. They Want to ReWrite America’s History and Deny the Courage Of the Southern States During America’s Civil War. (By denigrating And Removing a Symbol Of White Pride) (The Robert E Lee Statue) The ‘CSA’ States of America. YES……! You, The Far Left Media In America are Guilty Of What Happened In Virginia.

    • JHW

      Your right. These people have no idea what the white working class are thinking. The push back will only increase.

    • reaaltalk

      White Pride? You mean white cowardice in fighting to keep slaves against your own country…
      traitors all of those LOSERS

      • Miyako

        I don’t Know Who spoon Fed your history”? But, The Pride of the South is well seen in Today’s Military and when i Served in the 60’s. (Did You Ever Serve In America’s Military’?) They Are Very Proud Republic Loving Americans. The Civil War is a part of America’s History. >It Cannot Be erased by Anyone Or ‘Panderers’ to ‘The Black Minority’ in America.< I was Born In the Far North. Queen's NY. I Understand The Meaning of The Robert E Lee Statue. It's the Cowards in That Town who Want to Erase History. 'They' are The Reason for The demonstration. Yes….the Prostitutes In The Political Arena. 'The Panderers For Love Votes' From the 'Black Community' and The 'Extreme far left Democrats' Across America and The Spoon Fed College Kids Who Know SQUAT About How and Why The Southern States Did Not want to Be Apart Of The Union Any Longer……It was Very Clear….STATES Rights. Slaves And Slavery Had NOTHING Do To Do With Secession. Blacks in America RELISH The Idea Of Destroying Any Thing The South Holds Dear. (Mean Spirited And NEVER Satisfied with All The Freebies They Have attained Beginning In The Mid Sixties Here In America.) (I Can spell it Out If you're Ignorant To It) Leave The Statue alone. Not Just in Virginia But Other States Also. Its History'! You 'Stupid Pandering' Moronic Idiots In Virginia. PS: The Virginia Governor is a Great Example Of a Far Left Pandering And Hater Of ANY Conservative American And His Or her thoughts.

      • Miyako

        You Ignored The RED FLAG..? Why Is That..? So Communism Is acceptable To YOU In America”? If It Fits YOUR Idea Of America. As long as You Can Suppress White Pride and Defenders Of America’s History. Ask Yourself What The Media In America Won’t”””How Many Anti-Protesters At The Demonstration Are Marxist And Communist Lovers’? How Many Hate Free Speech…Unless It’s THEM Giving The Communist Thought Process. (Hate Capitalism,Conservatives,Church Goers,God Lovers,Laura Ingram,Ann Coulter Etc Etc’!)

  • Jose Cisneros

    In the background homobama at work, black hatred for whites is driving the racism, hatred and violence in America. It is fast forwarding America to civil war. All will loose, America, minorities especially blacks. Both groups are bad kkk blm. As bad as kkk is(both equally bad) it seem they were doing the protest peacefully. They do have freedom of speech so let them carry out their demonstration.

  • MIA OGLETREE

    Stay home or go to work and nothing will happen to you.

  • This was a preventable incident that should never have happened. I am not aware of any previous demand for the statue to be removed. It should have been left alone. It had been there for a very long time. My message to those who would try to stamp out history – It never happens. It is in our history whether people like it or not. The history will never change by taking down a statue. No, people will never forget the nasty Civil War. It is a part of our history and will never go away. Leave it alone.

    • nocbsfan

      Wonder what happens if the BLM statues of OB start coming down. just because w don’t like them there.

      • Maybe we should take them all down, no matter what the issue. Now tell me how do we really prevent our history to be changed. What happened, happened . How about old Patrick Henry who said, ‘Give me liberty or give me death”? Libs don’t like that as they seek to get rid of free speech.

        • nocbsfan

          Do the Libs want to get rid of free speech, I don’t think so entirely. the MSM is counting on free speech and the press tp pull off their king of the world quest. We don’t want to change history, we just want to prevent history that should not be history. There is no greatness with BO, but the MSM would try make it so

          • Nutz to the libs and MSM. I am orf to the mountains tomorrow. Got work to do out there.

          • nocbsfan

            Don’t forget your pick axe and your little brushes, If you find a big dinosaur head, call me and I will come and help you

          • nocbsfan,

            Orf to the hills today. Not likely to find a dinosaur. But we might see a moose.

          • nocbsfan

            What do you want with a Moose fossil ?

          • I was referring to a live one running about the countryside. But I did not see one this trip. We did see a coyote pup, tho.

          • nocbsfan

            Oh so you didn’t just go to the mountains, you went hunting Oh.! Are you going to eat the Coyote pup ?

          • Hunting season is closed. And we could not catch the coyote pup, anyway. He promptly ran into tall grass and we could no longer see him.
            If ewe like coyote meat, I have a friend in western Washington that kills them regularly. He is up to about a dozen of them so far this year.

          • nocbsfan

            Not me !!!!!! I don’t like wild meat of any kind, not deer, not turkey, not moose, nor anything born and raised in the wild. Except maybe Crappie, Bass, things like that.

          • What? Ewe don’t eat rattlesnake or porcupine? Rattlesnake tastes like chicken and porcupine tastes like pork. YUM!

          • nocbsfan

            Right now you are full of porcupine, and rattlesnake and something else. Obviously you have not eaten any of those

          • Obviously you are wrong. I have not eaten rattlesnake but I have eaten porcupine. My closest critter to a rattlesnake is an eel which I have eaten a considerable amount of while fishing off Long Island. We do have both rattlesnakes and porcupines here. I won’t name the whole list of wild critters but we have lots of choices. For example, we have fresh water crawdads, possums badgers and your choice of squirrels.

          • nocbsfan

            No you said rattlesnakes tasted like chicken, if you hadn’t eaten any how would you know, rattlesnake will taste pretty much the same as that which it has eaten, such as rats, toad frogs,certain larger bugs………..

          • There is an old joke about rattlesnake tasting like chicken. I have no love for snake meat. Some do eat it, I guess.

          • nocbsfan

            It would have to be a joke because I don’t believe any of them would taste like chicken unless that was what it was feeding on all its life. People do eat them, I wont, but I wont eat deer meat either. Gimme a farm raised cow and most of that I will devour (except innards, hoofs heads, tails, and other protruding parts)

          • While I no longer hunt, I do favor wild game over cattle because of the crap fed to cattle. Wild game such as deer feed off natural plants. I very rarely eat any beef at all. I eat mostly chicken and fish although chickens are doctored up with crap as well. But I can deal with fat better on chicken than I can on beef. I remove every bit that I can and I cook meat in the microwave where I can then wash off any fat and grease in the dish. I have reduced myself from 240 lbs. to 180 lbs. and have kept it off. That is another reason I go to the mountains yet. I did so this past Monday. Heat and smoke from wild fires have kept me indoors.

          • nocbsfan

            I weighed 185 pounds once and looked at myself one morning and looked like the liberty bell then I said this has to go. It did, and has been gone ever since I don’t care what they feed cows I like steak from beef Don’t like steak from deer or moose, never tried Elk, don’t see it much different Gee 240 pounds, sounds like to much mountain dew.

          • When growing up in the mountains I was skinny. When living in Boise and working in an office much of the day, downing fatty foods, I got fat. After my wife died, I got on a whole different diet.

          • How about carp and suckers? We have those in sizes up to 40 lbs. Or we have sturgeon up to 25 feet long and 100 lbs.

          • nocbsfan

            Didn’t know anyone ate carp, suckers don’t get up to more two to three pounds, where we have carp that weigh over eighty pounds, but who cares they are not good to eat, Suckers are to bony, they have to be scored and deep fried to make the bones edible. To much trouble. Sturgeon I know nothing about, they get very large I assume they are good to eat.. In waters of my area sturgeon are protected so you are not allowed to catch or keep them. I would rather eat Crappie. Scale, gut, wash and throw them in the pan, no trouble.

          • Carp and suckers are not native to Idaho. They were brought her by people from back east and planted in our waters. But most of the water is too cold for them so they survive only in certain slow bodies of water and reservoirs. We do have crappies in some reservoirs as well but not in streams. They too, are warm water fish. I find them to taste quite bland. But we used to catch them in a reservoir because the kids could catch them. They are like catching a stick as they do not put up a fight.
            Sturgeon are a prehistoric fish that is native to the Snake River. Because of dams downstream they can no longer go to the ocean. But the Snake River is quite large through SW Idaho and sturgeon do thrive. A little one is about feet long. Mostly real sports fishermen catch and release them. They are not especially good eating as they are bottom feeders like suckers.
            Our main native fish are a variety of salmon and trout. Yum! Also we have white fish which are the main bottom feeder but in the colder water, which are firm and good eating. They feed of of insects mostly. As such, they are about like trout.

          • nocbsfan

            Salmon and trout yes Yummy, throw all the others away I will stick to those two. We have Trout (speckled and brown) but no Salmon,Salmon has to have access to the pacific, But I want to talk to you about prehistoric fish. Didn’t you know that every fish that exist today are prehistoric. All species of fish were created before man and fish were not capable of recording history, why they couldn’t even draw pictures on rocks. I want you to keep that in mind

          • Yes, I know fish go way back in history. When I reference native species I am referring to species of fish that predate the presence of mankind in a specific area of the country. Species like trout and salmon were here long before whites or native Americans. Carp, catfish, suckers and crappie were brought here by migrating white people from the mostly southeastern part of the US. There are records of that from people on the many wagon trains. As a member of the Oregon Trail Society, I have been involved with studies of old travel diaries. Members of wagon trains were not familiar with native fish in the west so they resorted to bringing their own species in barrels of water.

          • nocbsfan

            Wow that must have been a wavy ride. Yeah just be evermindful that all animals are prehistoric, ever last one of them. Believe it or not , there isn’t many people that realize that. Old wagon trail days must be very
            interesting reading ?

          • Spending a day on the Oregon Trail in the west is very enlightening. So is reading the old diaries. As a student of old artifacts, I have done a number of digs at sites on the Oregon Trail to verify when a certain wagon train was necessary to date in time. Today we can cover more miles in an hour than wagon trains could sometimes cover in a week. Wyoming, southern Idaho and eastern Oregon were brutal places to cross in August and September. Water was a huge necessity due to the heat and dry landscape. The record high temp in Boise is 111. The record low is -26. Northeast Idaho has had a record low of -60. The humidity across the southern part of the state is a low as 10%. Night temps in the desert are in the range of 60-70. Very little coverage was needed. Most family members slept under their wagons at night. In fact, some wagon trains moved along on moonlight nights and spent the days in the shade under the wagons. Women and children often took turns walking during the day as the wagon seat held no more that 3 people at a time and the man had to drive the wagon. That does not mean that men got off easy. Travel was brutal on everyone’s part. Why anyone would come west for over 1000 miles across God forsaken country is beyond me. But they did by the thousands.

  • silverbackV

    The country is wrong for allowing our history to be rewritten, the state (VA) is wrong to contemplate the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee, the supremists were wrong to march across the campus inviting a reaction, the snowflakes were wrong for rising to the bait. If two wrongs don’t make a right, surely four won’t either.

    Only God can heal this country, 2 Chronicles 7:14

  • will

    Berkley – BLM – Whites prohibited from speech on campus – Constant lies about the POTUS- GOP Congressmen shot in a ball park – This disaster is a product of the left. This is a response to the treatment of pro Americans. If the left had not shown up and started a riot all would be alive today. But it seems only the left is permitted to protest. The moron who used a car to kill will be executed and lets make dam sure the leftest who kills will get same.

    • Derek

      I’m pretty sure when all is said and done we will find that the idiot driving the car was in fact a leftist.

      • will

        There is allot more to this story – and the left clearly has a hand in it. Lets hope the truth comes out. But why did the driver target police. He is either demented or a leftest or both. If he was a lefty why not target the right. If he was a lefty and targeted police and the left then there was some money behind it. I figured that eventually a person on the right would strike. When the congressmen was shot I expected it soon after.

        • jaybird

          I did not read that he targeted police???

          • will

            I think two of the dead are cops. I thought there were 3 dead but who can trust FOX and the others are worse. I have turned it off as this is not good for our cause and there will be no fair reporting on this case .

          • jaybird

            Two State Troopers were above watching the crowd when their helicopter crashed. There was a women that died from the car. Total 3 dead counting the State Troopers. They were not targeted, the crowd was targeted!

            FOX news is pretty much right on when it comes to the news and they have both Liberals and Conservatives. I watch it most of the day while house cleaning and back it up and replay when they say something that might sound a little off.

            What cause are you for (stated in your comment)???

          • will

            Well when I heard the report they said 3 dead and make it seem like it was a result of attack. Not a separate incident. I just heard on Fox that antifa may have started this with throwing rocks and bottles at the protesters. That they are not present today. Lets hope whoever started the violence is prosecuted. If this turned violent because of antifa then I hope it can be proven. Lets hope the truth comes out.
            I am pro american – I am against communist, fascist of any race or ideology. Antifa is really a fascist org who believes they are communist. They believe that free speech is only for the left. Dems are really not democratic they are closer to fascist and want total control over the people. Islamofascist are smiling and on board with the left.

          • jaybird

            I heard that at first, but sometimes you have to listen to the whole story. Even some of the Conservative letters will have sensational titles and then nothing in the story.

          • will

            I do feel that if the govt can not stop the left from controlling free speech, attacking people on the right that eventually war will happen. What does the future hold if this continues. Whites banned from college, holding office, even what jobs we are allowed to have and eventually a tax. Black leaders calling for whites to be targeted and killed. Muslims calling for attacks, Sarsour and imams. That is what the left wants. White people are going to resist the leftest take over. If the left takes over in the next 20 Russia and China may first strike and split the booty. What if the economy collapsed in the next few years. What if there are great natural disasters. There are so many things that could trigger chaos.

          • jaybird

            Too many Conservatives are licensed and carry for that to happen!

            The Left does not know what the “H” the real agenda is of the ones funding their groups.

            They have a thought but have no clue of what the consequences are of carrying it out. Whether the end will be good or bad!

            I think you and I pretty much agree on what is happening in our country!

    • jaybird

      No he won’t, they say he was on medication!

      • will

        There is talk of seeking the death penalty and any VA jury will want to make a example. Time will tell

        • jaybird

          I live here, I know what the talk is! Medicated and did not know what he was doing.

          I think he should be executed!

          • Derek

            I think all of the left are HEAVILY medicated? Lol but if it’s true he’s a leftist he will get stuck in a nut house and cut loose in a couple years. But flipside and he’s a so called white supremacist? They might plug in the electric chair?

  • jaybird

    I am wondering why they all were allowed to have weapons and I am not talking about guns??? They were all ready for arm to arm combat, sticks, shields and batons! There are reports that the police did nothing about that. A reporter was moving from a violent area and the police said you can come over here this is a safe place and then they started leaving because after awhile it was not safe. They did nothing! I live 50 mi. from Charlottesville. There is “free speech” but not free to be violent.

    Was this because it would be so bad that the politicians of Charlottesville would have a better reason to remove the statues??

    I think the statues should stay and not put in a museum because out of sight out of mind. These statues are a a reminder of what happened and should not happen again, a teaching moment for your children. Put up statues of blacks and plaques explaining both sides. Richmond is having meetings and this is being discussed.

    I am against Communist, Nazi and KKK, both BLM”s and all other hate groups!

    • will

      The islamofascist are smiling today

  • WBuck

    The driver of the vehicle was a trough feeder who thought he was killing a bunch of Trump lovers and wiped out a bunch of his bleeding buds. Lets see how the press turns this one around.

    • Derek

      Man I knew it I knew I knew it! I haven’t had a chance to turn on the news yet. But I bet that small detail will be buried lol

    • will

      Where did you hear this. If true it makes sense as the right would not want to target cops.

      • WBuck

        From an interview with that guys neighbor said he hated Trump and had anti Trump stuff in his room.
        Fake news?

  • Fed up!

    Kessler should be brought up on accessory charges, he organized it, he should be able to control his people. If we made a example of Kessler, just maybe this would stop, these violent protesters.

    • Ladypyro

      Part of the blame goes to the BLM and Antifa that counter protested. It was a clash of left vs right. Each side blaming the other. The root cause was the removal of the statue because someone got offended by it and the government gave in to the PC faction which wants to rewrite history. Both side were to blame for getting violent.

  • Christian_Prophet

    Well, seems the Neo-nazis are hard at work in Charlottesville, Virginia. Running down protestors with cars.
    Richard Spencer, a leader in the white supremacist movement who coined
    the term “alt-right,” said he didn’t know Fields but had been told he
    was a member of Vanguard America, which bills itself as the “Face of
    American Fascism.” In a statement tweeted Saturday night, the group
    denied any connection to Fields.
    The violence comes from the alt-right and will continue, unless law enforcement stops the protests and takes control of these racists.

    • Derek

      All was fine till the Soros groups showed up and you know it is racist for the police to intervene in a Soros funded movement 😉

  • satcatchet

    Infowars has a different take on the situation.
    By the way, where is the National Guard?

  • old_salty_dawg99

    Why are they hiding the facts of who the driver was???? Also how did people gathering cause a chopper to crash????? Why are blacks allowed to hold black pride rallies while no one else can do so???? McAuliffe is an IDIOT and needs to get the Facts before he starts throwing blame around. But given he is hiding the TRUTH of the Drivers ID he may already know that the driver was on the same side as those that were attacked by the driver. It has always been a good old Democratic trick to attack their own to get power and keep it. Look at how they keep blacks and other minorities down all the while claiming to help them.

    • jaybird

      He is up for re-election, if you live in VA please help us defeat him!

      The driver is a 20 yr old from OH, James Fields. It is in the Original Source to the R at bottom of story. A lot of articles only print partial coverage and you have to click on original source to get the facts as they see it.

      • satcatchet

        McAufull might have had a chance of winning if he had called in the National Guard but you see, he isn’t that smart so he looses.

        • jaybird

          We have those Liberals in the Northern part of our state and I see the “Women’s League” has started up in our small town in mid. of state.

          I don’t care what he called in, he would not get my vote.

  • twspears6007

    This whole setup was organized by the Virginia Governor Terry MacAullife the permits should have never been granted he allowed it to happen to embarrass the Republican Party the blood is on Governor McAulliffe’s and the Democrats hands. For shame to them and the explosive nature of white supremacist and David the Trump hating Duke.

    • satcatchet

      Ya but some folk are posting that somehow its President Trump’ fault. I wish they would do some research before they spew sewer lies.

  • Flyby

    I checked to see if the demonstration about the General E. Lee statue was oked by the city/county. Could find zilch so I’m betting it was. The blm sl*** had no business there. We as conservatives have let the liberal clowns have their “get together’s” without showing up to disparage they’re ridiculous views. They intervened on on what I’d bet was a sanction demonstration. How many of them were arrested? Robert E. Lee was a great confederate General. He deserves the heritage of having a statue. I’d love to see more conservative counter protests with the protesters being a bit more prepared. Didn’t south carolina take down the CONFEDERATE FLAG? Conservative people that want these flags flying high, and statues of heroes left where they are. It’s the liberal, leftist politicians who cave in to anything their fellow libs want done. I say ENOUGH!

    • jaybird

      I am pretty sure that they had gotten a permit awhile back. Charlottesville City Council asked other groups to stay away.

      • Flyby

        Good to hear from you Jaybird. Seems that we have the same mindset on certain things. If the conservative demonstrators did in deed have a permit, (and I was relatively sure they did), where were the charlottesville women’s police auxiliary? Sad a** police department huh.

  • Bob W

    So once again the leftist libtards are the only ones who enjoy “freedom of speech”, violently quashing the same rights of anyone that disagrees with them.

  • Raymond Miller

    If you don’t agree with the communists they shut you down, or in this case run you down. Of coarse the police were there to make sure no one was able to speak. Remember Demon-Craps Kill.

  • ray2hill

    Trump’s equivalent to NAZI brown shirts. He and they should be in prison.

  • John Frame

    The “White Nationalists” make me sick, however they had a court ordered right to hold their demonstration.
    The “anti White Nationalists” did not. If they did not show up with their bussed in thugs, the bussed in thugs of the WN would have no body to clash with.
    Who actually violated the First Amendment rights of who?
    If the left had not shown up to clash with the Nazis, they would have just looked like the idiots they are. Now they have recruitment tapes.
    Trump denounced the hatred and violence on both sides correctly.
    We need to look at this honestly and find a way to minimize the impact of both factions.

  • Brian Harvill

    And with the GOP pushing to make this type of murder (assault by vehicle) a legal act, get read for MORE dead. Across the nation states are making it legal for a person to use their vehicle as a deadly weapon against protestors. AND it is the GOP that is pushing these laws. Get ready for more TRUMP DRIVEN violence and death. THIS is the America you idiots wanted people. Stop complaining about it now… OWN the fact that YOU are responsible for those 3 dead persons and any others that follow.

    • awaitingtherapture

      They are not reporting the fact that Soros paid thugs pepper sprayed and beat the young white man just before he got in his car and run them down.

      • Brian Harvill

        OH yeah right, you will believe anything…. HEY I have some swamp land in the middle of the Sahara for sale… you buying you ignorant twit?

        • awaitingtherapture

          No , my upside down, deluded friend, it is you that will believe anything your socialist, constitution hating professors and media will tell you. I don’t know anything about a swamp in the Sahara, but the one in Washington DC is being drained as we speak.

  • Michael G. Wilson

    Keep your powder dry! Keep it very handy! Carry every where! There won’t be many more flash points, I hate to admit it but I am so tired of the insurrection of the left, so tired of their annracey

  • Harvey Mitterdorf

    The original protestors did not come to hurt people. It is the anti-protestors who came to hurt people.

  • bill thompson

    The car must have been driven by a left wing hillanazi….they are the only violent fascists in our USA. Probably staged by a union thug—the same leftwing union thug who blew up the mosk to blame Trump.

  • Walter Flatt

    IT IS TIME THAT WE SURROUND ALL SUCH MOVEMENTS WITH TROOPS AND GO IN AND ARREST ANYONE WITH CLUBS, STICKS OR THEIR FACE COVERED, ALSO, IF THEY HAVE BEEN BUSSED IN ARREST THEM AND FINE THEM 20,000 DOLLARS AND 1 YEAR IN A TENT CITY. DONT MAKE THE TAX PAYER PAY FOR THEIR UPKEEP. IT IS TIME WE USED THE CHAIN GANG AGAIN. THIS WILL SAVE LIFE AND PROPERTY. PERHAPS YOU SHOULD ADD THE BIASED NEWS TO THIS ALSO.SHOWING THIS WORLD WIDE IS NOT GOOD.

    • awaitingtherapture

      Now you are talking sense.

  • mike

    YOU CAN ONLY BE BLAMED IF YOU ARE AN AMERICAN WHITE MALE 🙁

  • The Old Ranger

    Hey Gov, got news for ya…. the original protesters were not the problem, they were only doing what is within their rights (you never complained about the blacks and the libtards protesting)…. the real problem was the anti-protester group who came with clubs, knives, chains and were looking for a fight… these thugs were bused in to “fight” those who wanted to keep the recognition for patriots like Robert E Lee and others, who were within their rights at the time. Don’t forget, the biggest slave traders were blacks, and African tribes who fought African tribes and enslaved the tribe who lost, then sold them in open markets… some of those slaves were shipped to America… but a lot of those slaves wound up in Europe and Asia….. all due to the black slavers…. go back to ancient history, one of the largest slave owner groups in the world were Egyptians…. The US were late comers, but they came from countries who had used slaves for centuries… we have history revisionists who tried to portray those southern colonies as the “cause of slavery: but history shows that is not the case…. slavery was around centuries before the US even was colonized…. So Gov… apparently you never studied history….

  • Soul60

    It should less protesting,less tv watching and phone watching and more community clean up and changing the overall behavior of all brainwashed kid’s coming up now.

    • awaitingtherapture

      What would help the most is to cut out all welfare baby money. That single issue is what has destroyed the black family unit. No father in the home to discipline the children and provide a male role model. The Democrats have completely ruined the black family unit. I really think it has went past the tipping point to try and save them.

      • Soul60

        It was both parties who back global white supremacy.Look how long wars have been fought for the control of somebodies else oil.

  • barbarakelly

    THE RADICAL SOROS AND HIS GROUP WANTS TO START A CIVIL WAR PEOPLE TO BRING ABOUT CHAOS —DON’T FALL OF THE DRAMATICS. — FIND OUT IF THESE PEOPLE WERE PAID TO RIOT. BUT THEN WE GET SOME STUPID FANATIC TO USE A DAMN CAR TO HURT AND KILL PEOPLE. YOU NOTICE HOW THIS JUST POPPED UP OUT OF NO WHERE. THIS WAS RIGGED . AND YOU WONDER WHY TRUMP DIDN’T SAY ANYTHING. HE IS WAITING FOR THE OTHER SHOE TO DROP. — WATCH. THEN YOU HAVE THE STUPID MEDIA CLIMBING ALL OVER THIS TRYING TO MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF IT. I GET THE FEELING THEY KNOW MORE THEN THEY ARE TELLING.!!!!! WHAT IF THEY ARE BACKED BY SOROS TO COVER IT.!!!!!!!!

    • Donna Crumpler

      Please tell that to Heather Heyer’s mother..

      • awaitingtherapture

        She was one of the paid thugs Soros hired. Probably was in the group that pepper sprayed and beat the white boy for daring to protest against BLM.

        • Donna Crumpler

          You can stop waiting for the rapture now because are so dead wrong.

          • awaitingtherapture

            Oh, brilliant response to a truthful fact about the paid Soros thugs.

          • Donna Crumpler

            She was a paralegal who lived and worked for a law firm in Charlottesville. Had business there and yes she was standing up for what she thought was right. Had nothing to do with BLM or any other group.

          • awaitingtherapture

            Uh huh !

          • Miyako

            So We Are To Believe a Rebel Of the Left”? PLEASE’!

          • Donna Crumpler

            You are sick. Say all you want to any pathetic loser who will listen but don’t bother to reply to me again as you are now blocked.

          • Miyako

            LOL..LOL. LOL”!

          • Miyako

            Was She A Communist’? Or Marxist Lover’? The Anti Group was made Up Of Communist lovers And MARXIST lOVERS. This Is ‘Conveniently Left Out’ by the ‘Far-Left Bolshevik Media’! (NY TIMES,CNN,MSNBC,ABC CBS NBC) Yes….Commies Are Behind The Rios In Virginia..They Cannot Stand FREE SPEECH’! To Bad…..! They Are Provoking A Clash Between Patriots and Communist Spoon Fed Ignorant Idiot kids. (Durham North Carolina) Like At Berkeley California.

          • awaitingtherapture

            Is English you second language, or yu fom da hood ?

          • Miyako

            Try Visiting a Ghetto Neighborhood..You Dumb White Chic’! (Chicago,DC,Detroit,Newark NJ,Baltimore) LOL LOL LOL LOl’! You Dumbocrats Are Really Dumb And Live in Fantasy Land. Eh……Alice”?

  • Ed

    Although I don’t condone what happened! But, why are they blaming one side and not the other! Sure the KKK was there but, so was BLM, The Klan With a Tan. From what I’ve heard, both parties were busing in protesters! So, both parties are to blame! If it weren’t for BLM, they wouldn’t be taking down the statues in the first place! If they can take down these statues, why can’t they take down MLK Jr’s statues and change his street names?

    • awaitingtherapture

      They are lying through their teeth. Do you notice there is no sustained video coverage of the attack BLM thugs . In one report on You Tube, the man that drove the car into a gang of BLM thugs had just been pepper sprayed and beaten by them and decided to get in his car and get even.

  • awaitingtherapture

    Do not believe anything you see on cable TV, not even Fox. They are teaching us whittey’s we are not allowed to protest against taking down Confederate Statures. Stand up for your white rights. in America today and prepare to have the facts reversed, fake news made up, and attacked from every angle.

  • nokabosh

    The news people are all avoiding the fact a lib drove his car into the crowd of protesters. And the libs and press are beating up on Trump to deflect from their own actions in instigating this incident.

  • nokabosh

    Soros’ anti-protesters thugs and lefties are responsible for this ugly incident.

  • Slav2012

    Im still not clear who was doing what to whom in this incident. But regarding revisionism, oppressors have always sought to re-write history to justify/validate their cause. The Nazi’s burned books in the Krystallnacht, the Bolsheviks eliminated the Russian nobility and anyone else that so much as hinted they didnt support the revolution. The Soviets in turn eliminated the Bolsheviks. The Khmer Rouge killed anyone with an education.

    Robert Edward Lee, late Colonel of the US Army Corp of Engineers and commanding general of the Army of Northern Virginia was a man who spent his life in the service of his country. To call him a racist and demand he be expunged from the history book is a slap at all who have ever served this country. What next? Disenterr all those buried in Arlington because Gen Lee once owned the land?

  • nickelslarry

    It seem to me that the democrats want to erase the South and slavery and to do so they will have to eradicate the Blacks from America. They have been doing this through planed parenthood by killing hundreds and thousands of Black babies every day. The Democrats keep the poor Blacks and the poor whites in voting blocks call housing projects so to insure they (Democrats) stay in power to meet their goal of throwing out the poor whites and poor Blacks with the trash. It’s called socialism. So wake up people they are pitting us against each other so they can take over and control all aspect of our lives. Wake up America! Wake up please.

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  • JWC4AMERICANLIVES

    Although the Klan did much evil in their hay days. I feel that BLM and The ANTIFA are one and and the same. Just because they have different ideals and modern views that are now brainwashed 24/7 by Internet, CNN, college & etc. all who decide to attack free speach & are attempting to do the same with violence deserve the full weight of the law with blind justice & full furry. If you commit violence unwarranted then you should be considered a domestic terrorist and treated as such.

  • Willie the 6’snake in the barn

    Of course they are going to blame the helicopter deaths on the first amendment right to protest hate group.

  • Louie Rey

    Let’s take a step back and realize that the basis of the initial protest was stating their objection to the removal of Gen Lee’s statue in this particular park whose name, incidentally, had ALREADY been changed due to political correctness. Now I’m not in favor of their politics but you can’t erase our nation’s history regardless of how repugnant it might be. The appearance of the counter-protesters was strictly to incite violent confrontation. How is that okay? It’s not. If, in fact, they truly were altruistic in their intentions then they should have held their own protest at another time and another place to show their support for the removal of the statue. But that’s not how the game’s played anymore. By the way, in either case (meaning the way it actually went down or the way I suggest ti should have gone down) President Trump would somehow been found at fault. Now that’s pathetic.

  • Chained

    Seems we are only hearing one side of the story as usual through the propagandist news. Was it or could it have been a peaceful.protest against the removal of the statue of Lee before the antiprotestor progressive libtards showed up. In past protests they have been the agitators.

    Why doesn’t the lamestream media call the “white nationalists” just nationalists or patriots? To spread the hate further I assume and to further divide the country.

    Damn media didn’t give this much attention to the Dummocrap leftist shooter at the republican baseball game some weeks ago. I am fed up with their BS rhetoric and new world order globalist agenda.

  • Linda

    Why must they call it the alt right? It was a permit allowed which was to protest the removal of the statue of Robert E. Lee. They didn’t invite the alt left protesters or even the nazi, kkk or others wanting to cause trouble. If it had been the BLM or Antifa the alt right would still have been blamed. We can’t control the decision of others to act the fool! We all have to accept blame for our own loss of control! No one wanted to see anyone die or be injured that is the fault of the evil within the driver! God be with those injured and with the family of the young lady who died may she rest in peace!

  • hermane brumit

    lockup the governor mayor, and police chief for not living up to their oath of office

  • dprato

    Gee I seem to recall all the incidents in which Leftists and Democrat supporters were violent against Trump supporters and infringed on the rights of everyone who disagreed with them. Now did they really think that after all the violence and disregard of other people’s rights that they would escape having people do the same to them. Neither is right but you do reap what you plant. These folks should learn how to lose without being violent and probably none of this would have happened in the first place.